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Fuck Nicotine

SpookymikalSpookymikal Registered User regular
edited August 2008 in Social Entropy++
You wanna know a dirty secret about smoking that nobody ever tells you when you start?

When you quit, one of the most common side effects is increased dreaming. It's reported second only to "headaches" by quitters. Only it's not like normal dreaming where there's that 50/50 shot of it being so obscure that it just doesn't make sense or it might even be fucking awesome. No no, these are all very intense scary dreams (at least for me they are.)

But seriously, every single fucking time that i've come crawling back to nicotine, this has been the catalyst. Nights where i wake up after 5 hours of sleep shaking or screaming or crying and being completely unable to go back to sleep. I'm unemployed right now, but when you have a job, trying to maintain stability through all this is tricky, taxing, and it really makes you just wanna smoke a fucking cigarette.

And this is one of those unavoidable problems. No matter WHICH method you use to quit this happens eventually. The gum/patch method puts it off until you stop using the gum/patch. Nicotine alternatives and herbal supplements, and acupuncture don't stop you from dreaming. I've tried nyquil, and that helps me sleep through the night, but the dreams are still VERY present and almost worse when they're allowed to run their course uninterrupted by my body thinking it's about to die and going into panic mode.

tl;dr: don't smoke cigarettes.

As Always
-Mikal-
Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent.
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  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    SMOKE.

    Pony on
  • DavoidDavoid Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    what if i quit smoking weed erryday?

    Davoid on
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  • Mister LongbaughMister Longbaugh Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    shit i didn't have any side effects at all when i quit smoking for four months.

    Mister Longbaugh on
  • matthias00matthias00 Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Well if it helps I heard crying about it on the internet has a proven success rate in getting whatever's twisting your panties to stop.


    edit: But srsly that whole nicotine addiction thing is one reason why I will never smoke... addiction's not really my thing.

    matthias00 on
  • DavoidDavoid Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    I'm going to have to quit in about a month when I'm at school because I won't be able to afford it.


    That's gonna suck.

    Davoid on
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  • SpookymikalSpookymikal Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Pony wrote: »
    SMOKE.

    Yeah...

    i've been smoking cigarettes in halves all summer, and i'm down to about 2-3 full cigarettes a day. So i just had a half... but it hasn't done much to calm me down. I considered finishing it, but that's just backtracking from my whole "trying to quit" thing.

    :(

    Spookymikal on
    As Always
    -Mikal-
    Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent.
  • Mister LongbaughMister Longbaugh Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    matthias00 wrote: »
    Well if it helps I heard crying about it on the internet has a proven success rate in getting whatever's twisting your panties to stop.

    second only to buying some wet naps to wipe the sand out of your vagina.

    Mister Longbaugh on
  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Pony wrote: »
    SMOKE.

    Yeah...

    i've been smoking cigarettes in halves all summer, and i'm down to about 2-3 full cigarettes a day. So i just had a half... but it hasn't done much to calm me down. I considered finishing it, but that's just backtracking from my whole "trying to quit" thing.

    :(

    SMOKE.

    Pony on
  • matthias00matthias00 Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    matthias00 wrote: »
    Well if it helps I heard crying about it on the internet has a proven success rate in getting whatever's twisting your panties to stop.

    second only to buying some wet naps to wipe the sand out of your vagina.

    Wet naps are startlingly effective.

    matthias00 on
  • SpookymikalSpookymikal Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Davoid wrote: »
    what if i quit smoking weed erryday?

    no side effects other than "wanting to get high"

    although, if you do quit and then start exercising like 2 weeks later, you'll get high because your body is burning the fat that has THC stored in it. True story.

    Spookymikal on
    As Always
    -Mikal-
    Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent.
  • Agent VesagoAgent Vesago Half Iago. Half Fu Manchu. All Bastard. Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Now I know what I need to do to have really good dreams.

    Terrifying dreams are the best.

    Agent Vesago on
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  • JigrahJigrah Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Davoid wrote: »
    what if i quit smoking weed erryday?

    no side effects other than "wanting to get high"

    although, if you do quit and then start exercising like 2 weeks later, you'll get high because your body is burning the fat that has THC stored in it. True story.

    Hahahaha that is so crazy, omg I want to try it except I don't do the weed.

    Jigrah on
  • SpookymikalSpookymikal Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    matthias00 wrote: »
    Well if it helps I heard crying about it on the internet has a proven success rate in getting whatever's twisting your panties to stop.


    edit: But srsly that whole nicotine addiction thing is one reason why I will never smoke... addiction's not really my thing.

    yeah i always told myself that.

    And i picked a reason that was dumb as hell to start smoking- i was working retail and the smokers got like 10x the number of breaks non-smokers did. That combined with christmas season where you want to spend as little time working as possible and a coworker who "wanted a smoking buddy" eventually got me started.

    Spookymikal on
    As Always
    -Mikal-
    Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent.
  • SpookymikalSpookymikal Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Jigrah wrote: »
    Davoid wrote: »
    what if i quit smoking weed erryday?

    no side effects other than "wanting to get high"

    although, if you do quit and then start exercising like 2 weeks later, you'll get high because your body is burning the fat that has THC stored in it. True story.

    Hahahaha that is so crazy, omg I want to try it except I don't do the weed.

    it's a different high than from smoking it.

    it's more like if you ate some pot brownies.

    Spookymikal on
    As Always
    -Mikal-
    Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent.
  • DavoidDavoid Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Jigrah wrote: »
    Davoid wrote: »
    what if i quit smoking weed erryday?

    no side effects other than "wanting to get high"

    although, if you do quit and then start exercising like 2 weeks later, you'll get high because your body is burning the fat that has THC stored in it. True story.

    Hahahaha that is so crazy, omg I want to try it except I don't do the weed.

    it's a different high than from smoking it.

    it's more like if you ate some pot brownies.

    Man, I was joking, but that is some good stuff to know right there

    Davoid on
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  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    look dude

    i don't want to be mister "my problems are bigger than your problems" thing

    but

    alright i'm going

    i just spent a week getting off of hydromorphone

    an opiate painkiller three times the power of heroin

    i had night terrors so vivid and real that millions of spiders were crawling inside my skin, biting me, laying eggs, and bursting into more spiders and i woke up with dozens of scratchmarks on my chest, groin, back, and abdomen only to realize they were my own nailmarks from trying to get the spiders out.

    and the pain from the scratches was still less than the constant nerve pain i am in from what is quite possibly permanent damage

    watch me playing the world's tiniest violin for a guy who sucked on cancerdicks so he could look cool

    Pony on
  • matthias00matthias00 Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    matthias00 wrote: »
    Well if it helps I heard crying about it on the internet has a proven success rate in getting whatever's twisting your panties to stop.


    edit: But srsly that whole nicotine addiction thing is one reason why I will never smoke... addiction's not really my thing.

    yeah i always told myself that.

    And i picked a reason that was dumb as hell to start smoking- i was working retail and the smokers got like 10x the number of breaks non-smokers did. That combined with christmas season where you want to spend as little time working as possible and a coworker who "wanted a smoking buddy" eventually got me started.

    Hey, that's a better reason than "my friend in high school told me to." I mean, retail + christmas = it's pretty understandable to decide your lungs need a little more black on em if it means you get to stay out of that whole business for 5 more minutes.

    matthias00 on
  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    my goodness that felt remarkably theraputic

    i need to be a prick more often

    makes me feel like a big strong man

    Pony on
  • Dely AppleDely Apple Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    would you like to feel some pricks instead jc_pants1.gif

    Dely Apple on
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  • matthias00matthias00 Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    And thus Pony's history of SE++ posting is explained

    matthias00 on
  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Dely Apple wrote: »
    would you like to feel some pricks instead jc_pants1.gif

    can it be yours

    Pony on
  • DavoidDavoid Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Let's talk about drugs

    Davoid on
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  • JigrahJigrah Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Pony wrote: »
    my goodness that felt remarkably theraputic

    i need to be a prick more often

    makes me feel like a big strong man

    Seriously, that whole rant post makes me laugh cause it reeks of being weak. Not the stuff your dealing with but the whole my sob story beats yours.

    When he isn't even trying to be a fuckin contest.

    Jigrah on
  • Tweaked_Bat_Tweaked_Bat_ Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    matthias00 wrote: »
    Well if it helps I heard crying about it on the internet has a proven success rate in getting whatever's twisting your panties to stop.


    edit: But srsly that whole nicotine addiction thing is one reason why I will never smoke... addiction's not really my thing.

    That is the only reason? Measly addiction?

    What about the myriad medically proven diseases that inhaling chemicals into your body causes?

    "Oh ho, I've got emphysema and throat cancer, but at least I'm not addicted to the stuff!"

    Tweaked_Bat_ on
  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Davoid wrote: »
    Let's talk about drugs

    today i am making an appointment with my doctor

    to talk to him about pain medication

    medicinal marijuana is in fact going to be one of my suggestions

    as are various anti-convulsives and anti-depressants

    there's like a million ways to treat postherpetic neuralgia

    i need one that will let me go back to work

    Pony on
  • ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    My dreams are usually pretty shitty. Good thing I don't remember them very often.

    Butters on
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  • NadsNads Bob Ducca Asleep in a cul-de-sac.Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited July 2008
    I like how you're fucking surprised that there are side effects to quitting an addictive substance.

    Nads on
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  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Jigrah wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    my goodness that felt remarkably theraputic

    i need to be a prick more often

    makes me feel like a big strong man

    Seriously, that whole rant post makes me laugh cause it reeks of being weak. Not the stuff your dealing with but the whole my sob story beats yours.

    When he isn't even trying to be a fuckin contest.

    i wasn't really posting it for him

    i was really just being the old man yelling at the cloud

    Pony on
  • SpookymikalSpookymikal Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Pony wrote: »
    look dude

    i don't want to be mister "my problems are bigger than your problems" thing

    but

    alright i'm going

    i just spent a week getting off of hydromorphone

    an opiate painkiller three times the power of heroin

    i had night terrors so vivid and real that millions of spiders were crawling inside my skin, biting me, laying eggs, and bursting into more spiders and i woke up with dozens of scratchmarks on my chest, groin, back, and abdomen only to realize they were my own nailmarks from trying to get the spiders out.

    and the pain from the scratches was still less than the constant nerve pain i am in from what is quite possibly permanent damage

    watch me playing the world's tiniest violin for a guy who sucked on cancerdicks so he could look cool

    Totally beat, but i can almost relate.

    One summer i broke my arm and the doctor wrote me a perscription for codine that was supposed to say "refill once a week for 3 weeks" but he wrote "refill once a week for 3 months" So i spent the summer fucked up on codine, and when i had to quit cold turkey, i went through all the junkie symptoms. Headaches, rage, vomiting, etc etc etc.

    I learned my lesson with opiates then.

    Also, who said i was seeking out sympathy? I don't need a bunch of internet strangers saying "awwwwwwwwww mikal! it's gonna be okay bubba! we still love you!" I'd much rather see people saying "one more reason i'll never start smoking"

    Spookymikal on
    As Always
    -Mikal-
    Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent.
  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    i think it's un-necessary for people to explain to me when i am being a prick when i point it out

    Pony on
  • bentbent Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    I've already had three cigarettes and I've only been awake for... four hours.

    Yeah I'm probably going to get cancer.

    bent on
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  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    bent wrote: »
    I've already had three cigarettes and I've only been awake for... four hours.

    Yeah I'm probably going to get cancer.

    maybe not

    maybe you'll just give your girlfriend cancer instead

    look on the bright side!

    Pony on
  • matthias00matthias00 Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    But mikal, what if someone on here really likes having scary dreams, and you've only encouraged them onto the whole thing?

    what then?

    matthias00 on
  • SpookymikalSpookymikal Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Nads wrote: »
    I like how you're fucking surprised that there are side effects to quitting an addictive substance.

    oh yeah man. When i first tried to quit and i got a headache i was all like "wtf" and then i got pissy for like 3 days straight but i wasn't on my period and i was so confused that i had to call my mom and get her to explain it all to me.

    I was SHOCKED!!!

    Spookymikal on
    As Always
    -Mikal-
    Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent.
  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    mikal shut up

    Pony on
  • Tweaked_Bat_Tweaked_Bat_ Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Pony wrote: »
    bent wrote: »
    I've already had three cigarettes and I've only been awake for... four hours.

    Yeah I'm probably going to get cancer.

    maybe not

    maybe you'll just give your girlfriend cancer instead

    look on the bright side!

    Possibly.

    Maybe just your kids though. Haha who knows right!?!

    Tweaked_Bat_ on
  • bentbent Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Pony wrote: »
    bent wrote: »
    I've already had three cigarettes and I've only been awake for... four hours.

    Yeah I'm probably going to get cancer.

    maybe not

    maybe you'll just give your girlfriend cancer instead

    look on the bright side!

    Buh? Sneh?

    Oh wait. I forgot about my policy of feeding my girlfriend tar whenever I have a cigarette. Carry on!

    bent on
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  • SpookymikalSpookymikal Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    matthias00 wrote: »
    But mikal, what if someone on here really likes having scary dreams, and you've only encouraged them onto the whole thing?

    what then?

    I think goth kids deserve lung cancer.

    Spookymikal on
    As Always
    -Mikal-
    Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent.
  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    apparently when i was like 9 my mother expressed concerns about her smoking causing her to get lung cancer, complaining to one of her friends about it

    and i turned my head from my video games and was like "don't worry mom, i saw a thing on TV and it's more likely that i will get cancer from your smoking than you will"

    and then she cried and i didn't understand what i did

    i have no recollection of this ever happening, but it's a story my mother likes to bring up

    Pony on
  • NadsNads Bob Ducca Asleep in a cul-de-sac.Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited July 2008
    Pony wrote: »
    apparently when i was like 9 my mother expressed concerns about her smoking causing her to get lung cancer, complaining to one of her friends about it

    and i turned my head from my video games and was like "don't worry mom, i saw a thing on TV and it's more likely that i will get cancer from your smoking than you will"

    and then she cried and i didn't understand what i did

    i have no recollection of this ever happening, but it's a story my mother likes to bring up

    I laughed at that. I'm sorry, Pony. Seriously.

    Nads on
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