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Parents don't support the pill.

Jack of all TradesJack of all Trades Registered User regular
edited July 2008 in Help / Advice Forum
Alrighty, so, my boyfriend and I are very sexually active, but I would like to be safer in case a condom breaks. Now, I've talked to my parents about getting me on the pill to at least regulate my periods (I have incredibly irregular periods. They're always late by at least 3-5 days, and sometimes I don't get it at all which really sends my nerves for a whirl, hoping to God that I'm not pregnant. Right now i'm about 15 days late, and obviously stressing, even though it was similar when i wasn't having sex) HOWEVER, my parents don't support the pill at all. They're telling me about all these complications, and how it could harm me in some way and that when I have sex I should just stick with condoms.

Now, I've researched it until it couldn't be researched any more, and I understand the side-effects, and possible complications completely, and I still think I should go on the pill to regulate my periods and to prevent pregnancy. But...my parents would absolutely not support this at all (nor would they support an abortion if I happened to accidentally get pregnant), and I'm stressing out over this.

SO, with that information, basically what I'm asking is ...is it immoral or wrong to go to a planned Parenthood and get birth control pills and take them with out my parents knowledge? See, the thing is that I'm very open with my parents, and tell them almost everything, especially dealing with medical type things. But I just feel bad...or wrong withholding this information from them, and I feel like I should tell them, but I know they wouldn't support it, and wouldn't let me.
I'm 18 years old, by the way, and live in New York.

Thanks in advance, I really appreciate it. This whole thing is really sending me for a whirl.

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    You're an adult, you're your own goddamn person, and you can go on the pill if you want to go on the pill. In fact, if you're having sex, it would be very responsible to go on the pill (yes, your boyfriend is using condoms, but better safe than sorry, né?).

    Though, keep in mind that if you get it on their insurance, they'll get the bill and they'll know.

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  • khainkhain Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    You might want to try talking to your doctor about it with your parents as they might respond better to some one with medical experience compared to research on the internet.

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  • skyybahamutskyybahamut Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    I'm going to get some shit for this quote but, "a woman's body is her own damn business,"as Jay, of Jay and Silent Bob, once said. You're 18, you can do this without your parents permission.

    The real question that you are asking is, "Should I go through with this and not tell my parents?"

    Only you can answer that question. My advise is to do what you want. Ultimately you have to answer to yourself for whatever decision you make. Make sure it is the one you want.

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  • RaereRaere Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Just wanted to say you have brass...whatever for telling your parents that you're having lots of sex. It kind of sounds like they're against the whole sex thing altogether. They don't want you to take the pill and are against abortion if the worst-case happened. To me, it looks like they're trying to discourage you from having sex at all.

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  • ShogunShogun Hair long; money long; me and broke wizards we don't get along Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    IUD. Not costly, very easy procedure, prevents pregnancy for 5-10 years, and certain IUDs are made to regulate periods.

    Also, you are a legal adult. You are allowed to make decisions in the best interest of yourself. Do what you think is right for yourself.

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  • DrFrylockDrFrylock Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    So let's get this straight: your parents are fully supportive of you having raging sex with your boyfriend BUT they don't want you to be on the pill?

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  • Jack of all TradesJack of all Trades Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Well, my mother knows I have sex. She asked, and I told her the truth (I don't have the guts to tell my father :P ), and then I mentioned that the pill would be a good idea for me probably, and she looked at me and said "No, I don't want you on the pill at all. Use trojans and you'll be fine"

    See, that frightens me because if something DOES happen to the condom, and I do get pregnant, getting an abortion with out their support (or knowledge. My mom outright told me that if I got one, she wouldn't forgive me... wonderful, I know) is going to be MUCH harder on my conscience.

    Edit: Though, if the worst does happen, I have decided that it would be the best thing if I did have an abortion. I have to finish school, and I would not be able to support a child with the money I am currently making. I've thought about it a lot, and discussed it with my boyfriend, and he supported me in whatever choice I made.

    It's just tough to have parents that wouldn't forgive their child for doing something that would be better for them in the long run. Whether it's birthcontrol, or more.

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  • TrowizillaTrowizilla Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Your parents are being stupid and controlling. Go to Planned Parenthood, explain your situation, and go on the pill.

    Actually, if you want hormonal birth control that's much much much easier than a pill you have to take every day, I can't recommend the Nuvaring enough. I started it recently and it's amazing. Basically, you put it in once a month, take it out to have a monthly bleed if you want, and don't even have to think about it in between. It's amazing.

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  • DenadaDenada Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    You're 18. You have control over your body and health. Do you want a baby, or do you want your parents to be happy? Time to grow up and make a decision.

    That being said, your parents have control over what happens in their house. If you get kicked out for your decision, then it's time to get a job and a roommate.

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  • Jack of all TradesJack of all Trades Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Hmm, I've heard of the nuvaring, but never really researched it. Is it expensive?

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  • 28682868 Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Um who cares what your parents think? You are 18 years old and an adult, some decisions do not need to involve your parents. As an adult I bring my father into important life decisions. But I don't talk to him about fucking. Fucking isn't an important life decision. (well, yeah literally safe fucking is an important life decision, but I think my point is clear.)

    I digress, this is your decision, discuss it with your doctor or planned parenthood. This way you don't have to involve your parents with the potential important decision that could come from not taking the pill, i.e. the shotgun wedding, bastard grandchild, or abortion, etc,. Goddamn, abortions aren't all about "high-five we're fertile lets go get this bugger out of me and go back to school." They are harrowing emotional things. A tiny pill and a swallow of water of water a day is well worth the brief parental fallout. ( I am pro-choice by the way...but I am pro-prevention first.)

    You'll find, and your doctor will tell you, that most of the negative info surrounding birth control are propagandist scare tactics. There are real side effects, but there are many options, and really doctors know best.

    Once on the pill the talk should go a little like this: "Yeah mom I'm on the pill. Huh, oh right, no it's my vagina now, it has been since you stopped wiping it. What's for dinner?"

    She'll get over it.

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  • WootloopsWootloops Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Thanatos wrote: »
    You're an adult, you're your own goddamn person, and you can go on the pill if you want to go on the pill. In fact, if you're having sex, it would be very responsible to go on the pill (yes, your boyfriend is using condoms, but better safe than sorry, né?).

    Though, keep in mind that if you get it on their insurance, they'll get the bill and they'll know.


    The man knows what he's talking about.

    The only real question at hand is do you have insurance to cover the costs, or will they be paying?

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  • Jack of all TradesJack of all Trades Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Well, I have insurance that I got from my college. Though, I'm unsure about the billing process, and who sees what.

    I don't want to use my parents insurance, and if need be, I have the money to afford it with out insurance.

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  • 28682868 Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    My girlfriend uses college insurance, she pays about 45* bucks a month for the pill. YMMV.

    *EDIT: Oops I hit the 7 instead of the 4.

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  • WootloopsWootloops Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Then go for it. As much as I would normally condone listening to your parents, in this circumstance it seems that they are in the wrong.

    You'll only be benefitting from the pill, it'll put your mind at ease, and for all intents and purposes - it's the mature thing to do.

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  • FokkarFokkar Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    One of the things you mentioned was that you wanted to use the Birth Control to regulate your period. I'm not super against the pill or anything, but if you want some info on regulating your period and other hormonal things other than using birth control... there's this really good book called "Sexy Hormones" by Lorna Vanderhaeghe. My girlfriend has had hormonal issues (irregular period being one of them) and she really really liked at lot of the suggestions in the book (my massage therapist randomly gave it to her one day... random, I know). Anywho... just a thought... the book talks about the hormonal pros and cons about birth control as well. Might be worth a read.

    Good Luck!

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  • DrFrylockDrFrylock Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Aegeri wrote: »
    So let's get this straight: your parents are fully supportive of you having raging sex with your boyfriend BUT they don't want you to be on the pill?

    Some people have a fear of the pill, due to reported side effects to the health of women taking it (notably, a study that demonstrated an increase in certain types of cancers if you take the pill for a sufficiently long time).

    OK, so we've established that the problem is that the OP's Mom is an idiot. "Go ahead and keep having sex but don't be responsible about it" is almost criminally irrational. Does Mom drive with a seatbelt on? I don't know why, she has an airbag. A tiny percentage of seatbelt-wearers are trapped in their cars during an accident and die from it. That should be justification enough for not wearing one. Right?

    If there's a worry about disease, there's a disease you get from NOT taking birth control that ruins the entire lives of millions of healthy young people, sapping their energy, their potential, and their bank accounts. It's called parenthood.

    OP: Yes, ask your physician about the different forms of birth control that are out there. The Nuvaring, the Depo-Provera shot, and something like 8 other forms of birth control are available, many of which are more convenient than the pill (and not really any more or less expensive). If you go to your student health center you may actually be able to get birth control very cheaply (like < $10 a month).

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  • JebusUDJebusUD Adventure! Candy IslandRegistered User regular
    edited July 2008
    2868 wrote: »
    My girlfriend uses college insurance, she pays about 45* bucks a month for the pill. YMMV.

    *EDIT: Oops I hit the 7 instead of the 4.

    Whew, I was replying before you changed it to 45. I thought 75 was riddiculous. Its 25 here if you get it from planned parenthood(I think, maybe 35).

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  • ScrubletScrublet Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    No one has mentioned this so I'll go ahead and say it. Condoms are not the end all of birth control. They say "99% success rate when used properly" or some shit like that. The "used properly" is VERY IMPORTANT HERE...it gives the company a legal out in almost any normal situation. Condoms can rip. They can tear. They can even leak. I've had the rip problems several times, and just flat out refuse to sleep with a girl who's not on the pill anymore. For an extreme example, once my roommate told me of a girl he slept with for about a week, and after fucking her three times in one 4 hour period, the NEXT night he found a condom from the night before STILL INSIDE HER. I didn't press for details on this, and didn't hear this story till he was wasted weeks later. But I lived with this guy for over a year and saw a lot of shit; he had no reason to lie about this.

    tl;dr, this myth that condoms are the answer to both STDs and pregnancy needs to go. There is more to safe sex than latex.

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  • FallingmanFallingman Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Why not ask your mother to accompany you to a Family Planning clinic to talk over the risks of the pill? The doctor will let you know the real situation and make both you and your mother feel better?

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Yeah I'm not so sure of the validity of the problems with the pill. Yeah it could increase your likelihood to develop problems, but who's to say that the sample they used wasn't already going to develop those problems? Take stuff like that with a grain of salt, now if everyone starts developing cancer because of it, it might be time to worry. Your best bet? Talk to a doctor. But you already know that one.

    Good luck, they're very good for regulating periods at the least.

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  • GonmunGonmun He keeps kickin' me in the dickRegistered User regular
    edited July 2008
    My fiancee is trying the pill to help regulate herself a bit more as well. She had tried the shot but found that it just didn't make her feel right so she didn't have the next one that was scheduled.

    The suggestion of going to talk to a doctor is a really good idea. Speaking to a medical professional would most likely put your parents minds at ease and certainly give them more information to go on.

    Something else that I thought of though. Have you brought up the point that you have researched this with your parents? If you have and they've ignored it then I have to admit that's rather ignorant of them given your age. They should be looking at you as a young adult now rather then a child and afford you the respect that you have done your research and that you're looking out for your own best interests. I know that if it were my parents they'd be quite impressed that you had done all that research at the very least.

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  • RubickRubick Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    If you get on the pill, or any form of hormonal birth control, keep in mind you may need to try a few different brands until you find one that's right for you. When I got on the pill, I started on Yasmine, and I developed migranes, which was traced back as a side effect from the pill. I've since switched to Sprintec and have used it problem-free for the past 6 years or so.

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  • YourFatAuntSusanYourFatAuntSusan Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Just for some information, my girlfriend was on the pill a number of years ago when we started sleeping together.

    She ended up developing ovarian cysts and also nearly had a stroke at 23 years old. Due to the ovarian cysts, she is no longer able to have children. So mission accomplished I guess, just for a lot longer than anticipated.

    Please be fully aware of the complications.

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  • RaggaholicRaggaholic Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Trowizilla wrote: »
    Your parents are being stupid and controlling. Go to Planned Parenthood, explain your situation, and go on the pill.
    This, so hard. You don't need insurance to go to Planned Parenthood and they'll give you a sliding scale based on income for the pill. Back in the day I had a girlfriend going to PPA for the pill and it was only $10 a month. That was less than 24 condoms at the time and we were definitely going at it more than 24 times a month.

    Then again, this was in Indiana in ~1998 to ~2000, so your mileage may vary.

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Just for some information, my girlfriend was on the pill a number of years ago when we started sleeping together.

    She ended up developing ovarian cysts and also nearly had a stroke at 23 years old. Due to the ovarian cysts, she is no longer able to have children. So mission accomplished I guess, just for a lot longer than anticipated.

    Please be fully aware of the complications.

    You do know that BCP reduces the risk of cysts right? The usual cause of them is extreme hormonal imbalance (likely with the pill, but you would notice the signs immediately) and hyperthyroidism, as well as a few others.

    Stroke is a more common side effect, but it seems your girlfriend has had some previously serious health problems to be the cause of all that. But since you said nearly, I'm wondering what else might be happening.

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  • ForarForar #432 Toronto, Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Just to chime in, I agree that you should consult your doctor and look into the pill if you both agree it's right for you. It's your body, and as a legal adult, you have the right to make choices based on what you feel is the best course of action for your health and well being.

    Now, of course, this is both mental and physical well being.

    To put it somewhat coldly, since you mentioned that having an abortion would be a possible (even likely) course of action should you become pregnant, and that your mother wouldn't forgive you for doing so, which is worse? The risk of her finding out you're on the pill against her advice/wishes, or that you may one day end up having an abortion?

    Also, I'm aware there are potential complications in general, but is it at all possible there are medical issues that you might have or that might run in your family that might be exasperated by using the pill?

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  • ArdorArdor Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Just a quick question. Does your mother believe you are going to stop using comdoms and just use the pill? If that's the case, she has more reason to worry as she does.

    However, you know you want to use both and the issue may be that she doesn't know that. Otherwise, as others have said, talk to Planned Parenthood or check with the people at school who deal in student health insurance to see what information they have for you to help you make a more informed decision.

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  • EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    edited July 2008
    As others have said, since you're 18 and have your own insurance through college, I would suggest seeing a doctor or ob/gyn rather than planned parenthood. Nothing against the PP guys, but as people have said above, there are different mixes and products available.

    Some people can go on whatever birth control pill and be perfectly fine. Many experience a significant side effect, either serious loss of libido, hair loss, migraines, and so on. It's not a silver bullet. Having a doctor you can talk to about this, as you're taking the pills and working through possible side effects, can be a life saver.

    Also, it's best to have sex w/ condoms for the first 3 months or so after starting birth control, so your body can get used to the change.

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  • ceresceres When the last moon is cast over the last star of morning And the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited July 2008
    Fuck Trojans, by the way. I used them when I was younger, and had a number of them break in spectacular ways when things got heavy. Now I use Durex, and in 4 years I have never seen a single one of those fuckers leak or tear or so much as slip in five years.

    My feelings on the pill are that I should not be on it because a) I can't remember to take the pills I need to live on a daily basis and b) I have not have good experiences with hormonal birth control. It sounds like you've read every label though, which is good. You're 18 and legally able to do what you please, and honestly PP would see you even if you weren't.

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  • Jack of all TradesJack of all Trades Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Yeah, I think on my next day off from work (who knows when that'll be..), I'm going to make an appointment with my doctor, and also go to PPH. I'm tired of worrying about late periods, because of an irregular cycle, and I'm tired of worrying about late periods because I don't have extra protection.

    Like right now, my period is about 16 days late, and I'm worrying my ass off even though this is normal for me. I don't want to go through this any more, and I'm tired of my parents don't showing support in matters that are important to me, even though I've shown them more than enough times that I'm a very responsible person.

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  • SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited July 2008
    I think your reasons are valid and sensible, go for it.

    My wife went on the pill when she was about 16 due to having really bad periods, hormonally (as in, complete emotional wreck once a month). The pill chilled things right down. She then stayed on it for about ten years, came off it last summer when we decided to start trying for children and then promptly got pregnant on our first un-protected attempt. Whilst there can be problems, it's certainly not a foregone conclusion that it'll have adverse effects even if used for a long time.

    You should stay in regular contact with a doctor though and have regular check-ups while you are on it. If they're anything like the UK, the doctor will want to give you a brief check up every time he renews your prescription - just check your blood pressure etc. I think she got a smear once in a while, not sure if that was related to the pill or if it's just a sensible thing to do anyway. You may also have to try a few different pills before you find one that works for you, which is another important reason to work closely with your doctor. You don't want to end up on the wrong pill, it'll probably just make things worse.

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  • EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Yeah, I think on my next day off from work (who knows when that'll be..), I'm going to make an appointment with my doctor, and also go to PPH. I'm tired of worrying about late periods, because of an irregular cycle, and I'm tired of worrying about late periods because I don't have extra protection.

    Like right now, my period is about 16 days late, and I'm worrying my ass off even though this is normal for me. I don't want to go through this any more, and I'm tired of my parents don't showing support in matters that are important to me, even though I've shown them more than enough times that I'm a very responsible person.

    If you're normally late, then wouldn't you just have a long cycle? Birth control may not fix that -- if your cycle is pretty irregular, you could end up having a "normal" period and then spotting the rest of the month, or even skip your "fake" period (when you take the placebo pills). And some prescriptions don't include the fake pills so you don't go on your period at all, and women can experience random spotting with that, too.

    Some people get fewer pimples; some people get more. The only thing that's generally guaranteed is pregnancy prevention, so don't fool yourself into thinking it will clear up any other feminine issues you may have. It might, and if it does, great, but talk about it with your doctor, and report back to him/her after you've been with it a few months, if you're experiencing anything that doesn't seem right.

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  • SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited July 2008
    Pills with a placebo or break in the cycle definitely can regulate your cycle. I'm not going to say they guaranteed will, but they definitely can. I mean, it's a thing they're known for.

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  • Sir CarcassSir Carcass I have been shown the end of my world Round Rock, TXRegistered User regular
    edited July 2008
    I have nothing against the pill, but just to counter-balance all of the "YARRR FUCK YOUR PARENTS", like someone else mentioned, keep in mind that while yes, you are an adult and capable of making your own decisions regarding your body, your parents are also capable of making decisions regarding you getting the hell out of their house. Just another side effect to consider.

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  • ForarForar #432 Toronto, Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Like right now, my period is about 16 days late, and I'm worrying my ass off even though this is normal for me. I don't want to go through this any more, and I'm tired of my parents don't showing support in matters that are important to me, even though I've shown them more than enough times that I'm a very responsible person.

    Please pardon my gift for stating the blindingly obvious, but in your research you surely came across the notion that high stress can also influence a woman's period?

    Just noting that stressing over it may in fact be compounding things.

    Of course, it's easier said than done to "just stop worrying about it" when it comes to such an issue, but it's worth keeping in mind.

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    I have nothing against the pill, but just to counter-balance all of the "YARRR FUCK YOUR PARENTS", like someone else mentioned, keep in mind that while yes, you are an adult and capable of making your own decisions regarding your body, your parents are also capable of making decisions regarding you getting the hell out of their house. Just another side effect to consider.

    I agree with this. If you are on your own, and are just looking to not lie to your parents, you can do whatever you want. Take the pill and let your parents know you are doing so as a precaution. You will be honest and given time they should understand.

    If you do live with your parents, you can't expect them to just give in completely to the whims of their daughter, who also happens to get free food and shelter from them even though they're under no obligation to do so now. It doesn't even matter what they think or the restrictions they place on you, you're living under their roof and have to honor their wishes. It sucks, but use that as motivation to get out on your own.

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  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    my girlfriend has been on the pill since before we met, to help keep her cycle regular. Her mother was against it at the time, but it was for an actual medical purpose. When we started dating it then added in the benefit of birth control.

    There can be side effects. She recently had to switch pills due to the one she was on actually pumping too much estrogen into her causing her to miss 2 cycles(and scare the shit out of both of us). the first month she was on the new pill she was pretty moody, but that got better. She's also up a cup size now as well(which I like. her, not so much). Basically you need to talk to the doctor.

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