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Educational PC games for a 10-year old

reminderGTOreminderGTO Registered User regular
edited August 2008 in Help / Advice Forum
One of my relatives would like me to install some educational games onto his kids PC. The PC is a year old, dual core and I really doubt that system requirements are going to be a problem.

Anyways I'm looking for suggestions on some educational PC games. Something that would help with his English skills and grammar are a plus. Freeware is also a pretty big plus.

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  • subediisubedii Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    One of my relatives would like me to install some educational games onto his kids PC. The PC is a year old, dual core and I really doubt that system requirements are going to be a problem.

    Anyways I'm looking for suggestions on some educational PC games. Something that would help with his English skills and grammar are a plus. Freeware is also a pretty big plus.

    Bookworm adventures deluxe (on Steam) is actually quite good. It's all about spelling words. The longer the word and depending on the letters you use the more points of damage you do to your enemies. You can try a demo of it to get an idea of what it's like.

    Only other edutainment title I can remember is Operation Neptune, which is an old DOS game centring around maths.

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  • KVWKVW Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Bookworm Adventures gets my vote, too. Fun game for any age group and helps with vocab building, too.

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  • RiemannLivesRiemannLives Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Railroad Tycoon III is an excellent teacher of Geography. Doesn't hurt that it's actually fun to play as well.

    Little off topic but I was 10 when I first read The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings. For me the best teacher of grammar and vocab was always just reading a lot by skilled authors. And it worked: perfect score on english half of the SATs and this was back before they made em all easy (nowadays you can get 1 or 2 wrong and still get an 800).

    Edit: Other books I read about the same time that were just as enthralling - the Prydain books by Lloyd Alexander (book 2 of 5 is "The Black Cauldron"), first 6 book of the Narnia series, first three Foundation books by Aasimov, Red Planet by heinlein.

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  • Kate of LokysKate of Lokys Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Civilization IV actually has a significant amount of information in it, especially if the kid takes the time to poke around the Civlopedia reading about the background details of things. I find that most games tend to follow actual historical progression with a reasonable degree of accuracy, though things are usually a bit skewed by the endgame (I'm currently in the 1950s: I just launched my spaceship, my hordes of Modern Armour and Mechanized Infantry are rampaging across Saladin's lands, and my researchers are hard at work on Future Tech 6).

    Make sure the child in question is capable of understanding the fine line between a fictional approximation of history and the actual historical record, though. Otherwise, hilarity might ensue when he earnestly tries to convince people that Christianity was founded in Boston, that Gandhi built Stonehenge, and that Cossacks weren't possible until military tradition was invented in 1789.

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  • Mike DangerMike Danger "Diane..." a place both wonderful and strangeRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Is Humongous Entertainment still around? I seem to recall them having some good edutainment games, although they might be a little below this kid's age bracket.

    Bookworm Adventures is definitely a solid pick, in any case.

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    There must be Carmen Sandiego games still being made.

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  • Dread Pirate ArbuthnotDread Pirate Arbuthnot OMG WRIGGLY T O X O P L A S M O S I SRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Sim City. Sneak that knowledge into him.

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  • TrowizillaTrowizilla Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Another vote for Sim City, and also the Tycoon games.

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  • subediisubedii Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Sim City. Sneak that knowledge into him.

    Yeah, I had a Geography teacher once who used it to illustrate things like city planning. It can be a really good tool for that.

    As for Transport Tycoon, you can actually get a version of that that's free and works on modern computers. It's called Open Transport Tycoon Deluce:

    http://www.openttd.org/



    I'll second RiemannLives on reading books. I actually got started on sci-fi because I played and loved Dune II, so I picked up the book at a local library. Instantly hooked, I think I finished the first half of it that night.

    Ender's Game is also a book that I'd recommend. Vocabulary isn't too tough, and it's all about children which helps its appeal no end.

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  • OremLKOremLK Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    It may be a tough sell to a 10-year old (depending on their attention span), but I think I learned more from Civilization 2 than probably any other game--and my mom had a lot of shitty DOS/Win95 edutainment for us to partake in.

    Note that it doesn't have to be Civ 2, any of them would do fine, although I feel like the sequels got more complex in some ways.

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  • subediisubedii Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Oh man, how on Earth did I forget this?

    You know what really helped me with my language skills and vocabulary whilst I was in school?

    Adventure games. Monkey Island 1 and 2, Day of the Tentacle, Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis. Heck the Dig, Full Throttle, Loom, Grim Fandango, Monkey Island 3 (just turn off the spoken speech).

    Seriously, adventure games. Lots of reading, logic puzzles to think through (although admittedly, not always the most sane logic), most of the golden era LucasArts adventure games are family friendly, and plenty of fun for the family as you guys try to figure out how to solve the next puzzle. You can even set the text speed. If you can get hold of any of them they're well worth it. You might have to run them through DOSBox but that's not usually too complicated.

    These days adventure games are making a comeback in the indie circles, and there's a lot of good stuff out there. Main problem is that a lot of it is more mature and may not really be suitable for a ten year old.

    Another option for plenty of language and reading could be RPG's. Games like Baldur's Gate 1/2 and Planescape: Torment had absolutely loads of text as you adventured through their worlds. Again, there may be an issue with the maturity of the content (the games can get quite dark) but it's definitely an option to keep in mind.

    I honestly feel a lot of my language development when I was young was down to 2 things: Getting hooked on sci-fi books, and adventure games. Well, maybe also reading computer games magazines as well, they held my interest and were often quite technical so that really helped.

    I might post later if I can think of some more recent, good RPG's and adventure games that might be appropriate.

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  • UnderdogUnderdog Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    BOOKWORM ADVENTURES! I played the demo to death. Very fun and really pushes your vocabulary.

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  • ThomamelasThomamelas Only one man can kill this many Russians. Bring his guitar to me! Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Oregon Trail is current up to the 5th edition. Introduce this child to the knowledge that trips to Oregon always end up with someone dieing of dysentery.

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  • TheGreat2ndTheGreat2nd Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    10 year old playing Civilization?
    ...I think I might have played Civ 2 when I was 10, but I don't think I was very good at it.

    Oregon Trail is funny. Mainly because of dysentery.
    Oh, and ALWAYS ford the river. Because 40ft deep rivers are definitely fordable :D


    I'd suggest Sim City.
    I remember playing the original when I was little. I didn't have to deal with water pipes. I just had to deal with electricity, and some basic taxes.

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  • ScrubletScrublet Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    If they still work on modern OS's, and you can find them, Sierra's entire old catalog. Any Kings Quest collections, as well as The Incredible Machine games. All good for a kid to play.

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  • CyvrosCyvros Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Sierra and Lucasfilm adventure games are good.

    Are there any games for PC like the Professor Layton games? Because the Curious Village is pretty good in terms of making you think.

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  • yotesyotes Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Nethack would teach him about the frustrations of life. Might as well get him started early.

    That aside, I'd have to recommend The Incredible Machine, Push-Over, Lemmings, Logical. Puzzle games are pretty easy to get into, even if they don't really help with language skills.

    The Lucasarts adventures mentioned above don't even need any fiddling with DosBox, they run perfectly well in Windows using ScummVM.

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  • subediisubedii Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    yotes wrote: »
    Nethack would teach him about the frustrations of life. Might as well get him started early.

    That aside, I'd have to recommend The Incredible Machine, Push-Over, Lemmings, Logical. Puzzle games are pretty easy to get into, even if they don't really help with language skills.

    The Lucasarts adventures mentioned above don't even need any fiddling with DosBox, they run perfectly well in Windows using ScummVM.

    I had forgotten about ScummVM. Heck, "Beneath a Steel Sky" is freeware now and can run on ScummVM. Although I've heard it's more dark (it's cyberpunk and set in a dystopian future) so I'm not sure how appropriate it might be.

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  • Sir Headless VIISir Headless VII Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    There is a new version of the incredible machine out on steam for $20 called Crazy Machines 2. I always loved the incredible machine when i was a kid.

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  • reminderGTOreminderGTO Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Good suggestions everyone, thank you. Really I didn't even think about simulation games (my mind was on Reader Rabbit and Number Munchers and such)

    I downloaded the demo for Bookworm and I'll let him try that this week. That sounds like a great game for vocab and spelling so it's sure to be a winner.

    I have an old copy of Sim City 2000 that I'll let him try. I'm not totally sure if he's ready for any of the Civs (I have Civ IV) but if he gets a hold of Sim City then I'll install IV for him. If simulation games spark his imagination center then I'll buy Railroad Tycoon and other sim games.

    As for adventure games those are all great suggestions, but I'm having a huge amount of trouble installing them on that particular comp. (I've got old copies of King's Quest somewhere) I'm going to try it again later with the help of DOSbox or scummvm.

    I didn't even think of puzzle games but the Incredible Machine is a great suggestion. Yeah I'll check Crazy Machines 2 on Steam and see if it works for him.


    Thanks all, I'll probably have as much fun as he does when I try these games as well. Getting him to read books is another ordeal but I guess I can help.

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  • subediisubedii Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    If you're interested in games with puzzles and lateral thinking, Abe's Odyssey and Abe's Exodus are tough but fun games. Might be difficult to find now, and the main character has a tendency to die in relatively graphic ways (although really, I'd call them more on the comic side than graphic).

    Depending on the kids humour, this may also have a plus in that the main character farts on command.

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  • locomotivemanlocomotiveman Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I know two boys who absolutely love RRTIII. Also, remember there is a free ware version of Civ out called freeciv, its very friendly towards older machines and I believe works in vista.

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  • tallgeezetallgeeze Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I don't know if it's still around, but I suggest Number Crunchers. It's basically pac-man for math. I had so much fun getting high scores on that thing.

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  • RiemannLivesRiemannLives Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    BTW: You might want to consider Gametap. It has several of the Civ games, Railroad Tycoon 3 and some other explicitly "educational" ones.

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  • spacerobotspacerobot Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I would also have to agree with the adventure games. While may not be explicitly educational, there are still a lot of beneficial aspects to them such as the reading, logic and many others.

    Try to stay away from the games that even look educational... no one wants to play those.

    Also wolfenstein 3d. Thats what I had when I was 10 and I turned out ok.

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  • OrogogusOrogogus San DiegoRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    You can browse through the reviews at the Home of the Underdogs's educational game section, although you have to note that education games for adults are lumped in with ones for preschoolers and everything in between. The reviews usually provide a pretty good description of what you would be getting into.

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