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Interesting and weird 'Doom 3 engine problem'....
slash000
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OK guys, I've had this very odd problem for a full year now. The problem occurs with Doom3-engine based games ONLY.
The problem is that on my laptop computer, and on my desktop, and on my friend's laptop, running Doom3-engine based games always look like complete garbage. So that includes Doom 3 and Quake 4 and Quake Wars.
What happens is that no matter what Graphical Quality Setting you put it on, it always ends up looking the same, like blurry ugly shit. The same quality crap on every setting, nothing changes whether it's on Low, Medium, or High quality.
I've tried updating Quake 4 with patches, I've tried updating my graphics drivers, and my chipset drivers, and updating Windows. The problem occurs in WinXP and in Vista 32-bit.
My desktop pc has a Radeon 9500 and my laptop a Geforce Go 7400. Same issue on both.
Even though the game looks terrible, it runs smooth (good framerates).
I can't figure out this fucked up problem and it's been bugging me for years. Modern UE3 based games run fine on both my desktop and laptop. As do other games from the years, like Quake 3 and other OpenGL games.
This only happens with Doom3-based games..
I took some screenshots to show you the problem:
Here are 4 comparison shots of what Quake 4 SHOULD LOOK LIKE if it were working properly on my computer:
BUT --
Here's what Quake 4 looks like on my computer NO MATTER WHAT QUALITY I SET IT TO (it always comes out lookin like this):
Notice how the texture quality is even worse than the lowest setting quality of the first set of screenshots for how it SHOULD look. The texture on the marine standing in front (check out his blurry armor) as well as the textures on the walls/objects.
The weird thing is I had a Geforce3 ti200 in my desktop before all this, and Doom3 based games would let me apply the higher quality settings fine. They would have better graphics in textures and normal maps, but of course the framerates would go down as you'd expect. With this current problem, the game looks the same on all quality settings and runs with a smooth framerate.
But I want these games to, you know, at least look as good as "Low Quality" is supposed to in that screenshot (the first one)
Please help guys, if you can think of anything
The problem is that on my laptop computer, and on my desktop, and on my friend's laptop, running Doom3-engine based games always look like complete garbage. So that includes Doom 3 and Quake 4 and Quake Wars.
What happens is that no matter what Graphical Quality Setting you put it on, it always ends up looking the same, like blurry ugly shit. The same quality crap on every setting, nothing changes whether it's on Low, Medium, or High quality.
I've tried updating Quake 4 with patches, I've tried updating my graphics drivers, and my chipset drivers, and updating Windows. The problem occurs in WinXP and in Vista 32-bit.
My desktop pc has a Radeon 9500 and my laptop a Geforce Go 7400. Same issue on both.
Even though the game looks terrible, it runs smooth (good framerates).
I can't figure out this fucked up problem and it's been bugging me for years. Modern UE3 based games run fine on both my desktop and laptop. As do other games from the years, like Quake 3 and other OpenGL games.
This only happens with Doom3-based games..
I took some screenshots to show you the problem:
Here are 4 comparison shots of what Quake 4 SHOULD LOOK LIKE if it were working properly on my computer:
BUT --
Here's what Quake 4 looks like on my computer NO MATTER WHAT QUALITY I SET IT TO (it always comes out lookin like this):
Notice how the texture quality is even worse than the lowest setting quality of the first set of screenshots for how it SHOULD look. The texture on the marine standing in front (check out his blurry armor) as well as the textures on the walls/objects.
The weird thing is I had a Geforce3 ti200 in my desktop before all this, and Doom3 based games would let me apply the higher quality settings fine. They would have better graphics in textures and normal maps, but of course the framerates would go down as you'd expect. With this current problem, the game looks the same on all quality settings and runs with a smooth framerate.
But I want these games to, you know, at least look as good as "Low Quality" is supposed to in that screenshot (the first one)
Please help guys, if you can think of anything
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Also, wow, Quake 4 on ultra looks like shit now.
Also check the settings in your graphics drivers to make sure that the texture detail there isn't set to Shit/Optimizations On/Catalyst AI/etc.
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What exactly do you mean? And/or how do you do that?
I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling the game, yes. It also happens with the Quake 4 demo.. and it also happens with Doom 3 and Quake Wars..
I've tried deleting the CFG file and letting it recreate itself to no avail. I've also tried manually editing the CFG file, but it detects that I have a 'high end machine,' and I've also tried specifying my video ram, and I've tried different settings for random shit but I'm not sure if I did it right. Messing around the CFG file didn't really help...
How do I check the texture detail on the graphics drivers? My PC is ATI and my laptop is Nvidia.
Also with regards to that is this - the problem is only for Doom3 based games. I don't have any texture or graphical problems of any kind for Call of Duty 4, Unreal Tournament 3, Devil May Cry 4, GRID, or any other game.
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Choose "Let me specify the detail level" or whatever equivalent, and crank it to "MAX QUALITY."
Can't get any more detailed right now due to work PC being Intel, the anti-gamer's chipset.
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Wait, what?
What the fuck?
Go get the cataracts removed man.
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I FINALLY GOT IT WORKING AFTER ALL THIS TIME.
Here's what I did.
I had to edit the CFG file manually. So after HOURS of searching google and trying different 'tweak guides' I found this site:
http://ucguides.savagehelp.com/Quake4/FPSConfigs.htm
And after messing around with those configs for a while a found out that if I copy and pasted the data they had from the "128 megabyte high quality" section and pasted it into my Q4 config, it works.
It sets everything to the proper quality.
And the best news is that the game not only looks like it should (all the textures and stuff look proper) but it runs at a high framerate too.
Jesus this has been bugging me for over a year and I finally got it fixed. Fuck.
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Good Lord it is such a headache.
But finally I can play Quake IV and Enemy Territory and Doom 3 again without it looking like shit on my new machine.
Thanks for the advice everyone.
This shit has been such a headache.
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That still doesn't explain the random 3/4 whitespaces you use between your paragraphs.
Really, while a block of text is hard to read, I think you're overdoing it.
You're welcome for the attempt at help though.
Glad to hear you got it fixed.
Enjoy gaming.
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Here's the fucked up thing: The in-game Quality settings were not working. I could not simply go into Options and set the video Quality to Medium or High, or even Low. It would always end up looking like garbage (see my pic above).
The ONLY way I could get the graphical settings to work properly was to manually copy and paste settings from a tweak guide.
That just shouldn't be necessary. A game's Quality settings should actually, you know, change the appearance of the game. And at worst, a game should look as bad as its lowest graphical Quality setting - not lower.
What's also absurd is that the game recognized the fact that I have a "high end machine." Like, there's code in there that can tell if your machine is capable of running at higher qualities. The CFG file had correctly identified my machine as being fully capable of High Quality. And yet, the graphics were always blurry as fuck.
And when I finally edited the graphics properly into my game?
Now, not only does it look great, but it plays at the max native resolution of my screen, AND runs at a smooth framerate. Because the PC hardware was never the problem. The Problem was always the game NOT producing the graphics properly for whatever fucking reasons.
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Seriously, the textures are complete arse.
Compared to what? Crysis?
Holy shit dude, are you unable to play games that are over 3 hours old because they look like "shit"?
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It doesn't matter how old it is - Doom 3 looked like shit back when it was released, too. Compared to say, Half-Life 2, which may be showing its age now, but still looks great.
So, compared to HL2, as the man says, the textures are absolute rubbish. Just really, really low-res. Doom 3 has the same thing. Low-poly models and low-res textures and a "throw some normal maps on there and it'll work out" approach to the whole thing.
That's good thinking. But it accepted my Config changes for controls and resolution etc. It even tells me it's in "high quality" even though it looks like crap.
The only solution I've found is copying and pasting those commands to the CFG from that website I linked. It works perfectly now that I've done that.
But the cause? Still unknown.
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