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Microsoft Points in 400-point chunks!

SamphisSamphis Registered User regular
edited August 2008 in Games and Technology
Microsoft points just got a lot less crappy! There is a way to buy them in non-stupid amounts. I found this little gem this morning:

For people that do not have MS points and don’t want to be forced to buy a 500 point pack off of live for $6.25 you can go on the Zune website (uses same login you use for Xbox.com) and they offer a 400 point pack.

Log in to the Zune.net website. Choose Social -> My Account -> Buy MS Points. Buy 400 point pack. You won't have any "remainder" points and you'll be able to pay exactly $10 for Geometry Wars if you want to.

Credit to some commenters on the Braid website.

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  • LunkerLunker Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I've never understood why people get their panties in a twist over the points system. It's irritating, but does having an extra 200 points just dangling there really bug people? The same with the Wii Points system. Is it primarily a gaming OCD thing, or is it really outrage over M$ and NinYenDo holding their buck-fifty hostage?

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  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I bought Braid today wholly from leftover points.

    I call that getting it for free! Woo.

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  • randombattlerandombattle Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I don't follow why would you want to buy them in 400 points and not 500 points?

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  • RenzoRenzo Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Lunker wrote: »
    I've never understood why people get their panties in a twist over the points system. It's irritating, but does having an extra 200 points just dangling there really bug people? The same with the Wii Points system. Is it primarily a gaming OCD thing, or is it really outrage over M$ and NinYenDo holding their buck-fifty hostage?

    i think it's silly that it's possible to end up with like 30 MS points. Can't buy shit with that. it basically comes down to spending more than you want to and wasting money.

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  • BeckBeck Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Lunker wrote: »
    I've never understood why people get their panties in a twist over the points system. It's irritating, but does having an extra 200 points just dangling there really bug people? The same with the Wii Points system. Is it primarily a gaming OCD thing, or is it really outrage over M$ and NinYenDo holding their buck-fifty hostage?

    Well, it feels like a scam, and Microsoft shouldn't be forcing people to buy into their stupid points bullshit. You would think they would want to entice people to support digital distribution instead of penalizing people for supporting it.

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  • RenzoRenzo Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I don't follow why would you want to buy them in 400 points and not 500 points?

    because arcade games are priced in 400 point denominations. 400, 800, 1200, 1600

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  • SamphisSamphis Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Because the games are only ever sold in 400-point increments. If you want to buy Geometry Wars, which is 800 points, you'd normally have to buy 1000 points, and then you'd have 200 points left over. It would cost you $12.25 instead of $10.

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  • urahonkyurahonky Cynical Old Man Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I'm more-so pissed at the fact that 800 MS points != $8.00. I wish it were.

    But the ability to buy in 400 point increments is nice, thanks for the heads up!

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  • randombattlerandombattle Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Never noticed that..

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  • truck-a-saurastruck-a-sauras Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Lunker wrote: »
    I've never understood why people get their panties in a twist over the points system. It's irritating, but does having an extra 200 points just dangling there really bug people? The same with the Wii Points system. Is it primarily a gaming OCD thing, or is it really outrage over M$ and NinYenDo holding their buck-fifty hostage?

    buck fifty or a penny. holding any money hostage gets my panties in a twist. When you go to any brick and mortar store would you allow them to hold your money hostage? no, then why should a virtual store be held to any different standards?

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  • OpiumOpium regular
    edited August 2008
    Samphis wrote: »
    Because the games are only ever sold in 400-point increments. If you want to buy Geometry Wars, which is 800 points, you'd normally have to buy 1000 points, and then you'd have 200 points left over. It would cost you $12.25 instead of $10.

    Only if you never EVER buy any other thing on XBL again.

    Also, you're not gonna die over $2.25. The stuff some people get worked up over... *rolls eyes*

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  • GanluanGanluan Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I just buy them in 2000 point chunks since that's evenly divisible anyway, and they'll all be used up at some point.

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  • 4rch3nemy4rch3nemy Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Lunker wrote: »
    I've never understood why people get their panties in a twist over the points system. It's irritating, but does having an extra 200 points just dangling there really bug people? The same with the Wii Points system. Is it primarily a gaming OCD thing, or is it really outrage over M$ and NinYenDo holding their buck-fifty hostage?

    buck fifty or a penny. holding any money hostage gets my panties in a twist. When you go to any brick and mortar store would you allow them to hold your money hostage? no, then why should a virtual store be held to any different standards?

    Because you can't reach through the internet and choke a bitch.

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  • Zilla360Zilla360 21st Century. |She/Her| Trans* Woman In Aviators Firing A Bazooka. ⚛️Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    This only works in the USA:
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    The Zune service is not yet available in your region.

    Thanks for your interest! Please continue to check Zune.net for the latest news and information.

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  • yalborapyalborap Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    It doesn't actually piss me, or most people off. But it's pretty goddamned annoying.

    And at the end of the day, even if you get the extra points, you're still putting in 12.50 to afford Geometry Wars or whatever instead of the 10 it's listed at.

    Think of it like if there was a store that only let you buy stuff with gift cards, but they only sold charges in 6.25, 12.50, 20, 25, 50, and 62.50 dollar amounts. Would it kill you? No. Would it be annoying to have to spend extra? Yes.

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  • bloodrbloodr Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I remember someone from MS claiming the reason they sell it in such odd chunks is because of the overhead associated with CC processing fees/pre-paid cards. Looks like that excuse was bullshit.

    OP, you are a hero.

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  • LunkerLunker Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Beck wrote:
    Well, it feels like a scam, and Microsoft shouldn't be forcing people to buy into their stupid points bullshit. You would think they would want to entice people to support digital distribution instead of penalizing people for supporting it.

    I guess I'm not seeing the "penalizing" part. If I'm buying points in the first place, I'm using them to buy stuff off of the Marketplace ... which means I'm likely to buy something else off the Marketplace at one point or another. I just use the extra points then, sort of a coupon off of the next purchase (like Scarab above just gave an example of). So next time people get in an uproar because a game they like is 1200 points instead of 800 points, they'll already have the 400 points sitting there. ;-)
    buck fifty or a penny. holding any money hostage gets my panties in a twist. When you go to any brick and mortar store would you allow them to hold your money hostage? no, then why should a virtual store be held to any different standards?

    You've never ended up with $1.76 left over on a gift card? This is how everyone functions nowadays.

    I agree the system's pretty inconvenient, but I guess it's just never bothered me. The main reason I like the abstracted MS Points system is because stores are far more willing to offer sales on them. For example, next week Target is offering 1600 point cards ($20 value) for $15. There's no way on earth they'd sell cards that said "$20" on them for anything less than $20. Hell, late last year Circuit City had a buy-1-get-1 free sale on points cards, and I bought six cards just to stock up and use for myself. :)

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  • LegacyLegacy Stuck Somewhere In Cyberspace The Grid(Seattle)Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2008
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    I bought Braid today wholly from leftover points.

    I call that getting it for free! Woo.

    I don't know how you can call $15 'leftover points'.

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  • randombattlerandombattle Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Lunker wrote: »
    Beck wrote:
    Well, it feels like a scam, and Microsoft shouldn't be forcing people to buy into their stupid points bullshit. You would think they would want to entice people to support digital distribution instead of penalizing people for supporting it.

    I guess I'm not seeing the "penalizing" part. If I'm buying points in the first place, I'm using them to buy stuff off of the Marketplace ... which means I'm likely to buy something else off the Marketplace at one point or another. I just use the extra points then, sort of a coupon off of the next purchase (like Scarab above just gave an example of). So next time people get in an uproar because a game they like is 1200 points instead of 800 points, they'll already have the 400 points sitting there. ;-)
    buck fifty or a penny. holding any money hostage gets my panties in a twist. When you go to any brick and mortar store would you allow them to hold your money hostage? no, then why should a virtual store be held to any different standards?

    You've never ended up with $1.76 left over on a gift card? This is how everyone functions nowadays.

    I agree the system's pretty inconvenient, but I guess it's just never bothered me. The main reason I like the abstracted MS Points system is because stores are far more willing to offer sales on them. For example, next week Target is offering 1600 point cards ($20 value) for $15. There's no way on earth they'd sell cards that said "$20" on them for anything less than $20. Hell, late last year Circuit City had a buy-1-get-1 free sale on points cards, and I bought six cards just to stock up and use for myself. :)
    Well it's not like you can ever have points you cant use since you could always buy some 100 point stuff.

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  • AoiAoi Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Lunker wrote: »
    I've never understood why people get their panties in a twist over the points system. It's irritating, but does having an extra 200 points just dangling there really bug people? The same with the Wii Points system. Is it primarily a gaming OCD thing, or is it really outrage over M$ and NinYenDo holding their buck-fifty hostage?

    buck fifty or a penny. holding any money hostage gets my panties in a twist. When you go to any brick and mortar store would you allow them to hold your money hostage? no, then why should a virtual store be held to any different standards?

    Because they're not forcing you to buy points in the first place. They're not holding money you don't have to spend in the first place hostage. And as someone else pointed out, every store out there these days have gift cards, and you can easily end up with spare small amounts of cash left over on them that you can't use without recharging the card with more money, so yeah, any brick and mortar store pretty much does allow it.

    Edit: That being said, it never bugged me much. The left over points always eventually added up enough to go towards something else, or some cheap, silly theme or picture pack finished them off, a random song for Rock Band, etc. But then again, I don't genuinely get bent out of shape about much anymore :P

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  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Legacy wrote: »
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    I bought Braid today wholly from leftover points.

    I call that getting it for free! Woo.

    I don't know how you can call $15 'leftover points'.

    2000 for Geometry wars. 1200 left over. BAM I get Braid for free.

    My logic is undeniable.

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  • yalborapyalborap Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Lunker wrote: »
    Beck wrote:
    Well, it feels like a scam, and Microsoft shouldn't be forcing people to buy into their stupid points bullshit. You would think they would want to entice people to support digital distribution instead of penalizing people for supporting it.

    I guess I'm not seeing the "penalizing" part. If I'm buying points in the first place, I'm using them to buy stuff off of the Marketplace ... which means I'm likely to buy something else off the Marketplace at one point or another. I just use the extra points then, sort of a coupon off of the next purchase (like Scarab above just gave an example of). So next time people get in an uproar because a game they like is 1200 points instead of 800 points, they'll already have the 400 points sitting there. ;-)
    buck fifty or a penny. holding any money hostage gets my panties in a twist. When you go to any brick and mortar store would you allow them to hold your money hostage? no, then why should a virtual store be held to any different standards?

    You've never ended up with $1.76 left over on a gift card? This is how everyone functions nowadays.

    I agree the system's pretty inconvenient, but I guess it's just never bothered me. The main reason I like the abstracted MS Points system is because stores are far more willing to offer sales on them. For example, next week Target is offering 1600 point cards ($20 value) for $15. There's no way on earth they'd sell cards that said "$20" on them for anything less than $20. Hell, late last year Circuit City had a buy-1-get-1 free sale on points cards, and I bought six cards just to stock up and use for myself. :)
    Well it's not like you can ever have points you cant use since you could always buy some 100 point stuff.

    I have 10 points in my account.

    What the FUCK can I buy with 10 points?!

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  • Whiniest Man On EarthWhiniest Man On Earth Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    You mean, I can pay for something in the actual amount it costs?

    WHAT A GRAND FUCKING IDEA.

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  • Raiden333Raiden333 Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    apparently I'm the only one in this thread who plays Rock Band, and therefore never minds having leftover points now and then.

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  • SkillmoreSkillmore Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Why have points at all...Why not use legal digital tender? Microsoft just uses a points system like everyone else to scrap alot of little money into one big pile. It's not an uncommon practice by any means.

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  • ZilartZilart Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    yalborap wrote: »
    I have 10 points in my account.

    What the FUCK can I buy with 10 points?!
    I don't think I've ever seen something cost 10 points on XBL.

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  • LunkerLunker Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    yalborap wrote: »
    I have 10 points in my account.

    What the FUCK can I buy with 10 points?!

    What can you buy in the real world with 12.5 cents? Very little. I'm guessing that, instead, you'll add extra money to that 12.5 cents in order to buy something else that you'd want. :)

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  • SamphisSamphis Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I don't understand why it bothers Lunker that other people are bothered by it. I was just posting an alternate method of buying points that will generally save people cash.

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  • yalborapyalborap Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Lunker wrote: »
    yalborap wrote: »
    I have 10 points in my account.

    What the FUCK can I buy with 10 points?!

    What can you buy in the real world with 12.5 cents? Very little. I'm guessing that, instead, you'll add extra money to that 12.5 cents in order to buy something else that you'd want. :)

    That's the thing. What the hell can I add 10 points to? It's not like I can buy 90 points, or something that's 410 points.

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  • AoiAoi Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    yalborap wrote: »
    Lunker wrote: »
    yalborap wrote: »
    I have 10 points in my account.

    What the FUCK can I buy with 10 points?!

    What can you buy in the real world with 12.5 cents? Very little. I'm guessing that, instead, you'll add extra money to that 12.5 cents in order to buy something else that you'd want. :)

    That's the thing. What the hell can I add 10 points to? It's not like I can buy 90 points, or something that's 410 points.

    The same way you got to 10 points in the first place. They'll add up eventually.

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  • AoiAoi Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Samphis wrote: »
    I don't understand why it bothers Lunker that other people are bothered by it. I was just posting an alternate method of buying points that will generally save people cash.


    He doesn't seem bothered even remotely.

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  • ArceusArceus Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    yalborap wrote: »
    Lunker wrote: »
    yalborap wrote: »
    I have 10 points in my account.

    What the FUCK can I buy with 10 points?!

    What can you buy in the real world with 12.5 cents? Very little. I'm guessing that, instead, you'll add extra money to that 12.5 cents in order to buy something else that you'd want. :)

    That's the thing. What the hell can I add 10 points to? It's not like I can buy 90 points, or something that's 410 points.

    And now you are in an utter state of despair that you can never redeem those 12.5 cents?

    Your life must be really easy and drama free if this is what you worry about.

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  • yalborapyalborap Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Arceus wrote: »
    yalborap wrote: »
    Lunker wrote: »
    yalborap wrote: »
    I have 10 points in my account.

    What the FUCK can I buy with 10 points?!

    What can you buy in the real world with 12.5 cents? Very little. I'm guessing that, instead, you'll add extra money to that 12.5 cents in order to buy something else that you'd want. :)

    That's the thing. What the hell can I add 10 points to? It's not like I can buy 90 points, or something that's 410 points.

    And now you are in an utter state of despair that you can never redeem those 12.5 cents?

    Your life must be really easy and drama free if this is what you worry about.

    Not really, no. I'm using hyperbole for comedic effect. It's a bit ANNOYING to have these useless points, much like only having 12.5 cents to my name, but it's not world-ending.

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  • truck-a-saurastruck-a-sauras Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    for the people mentioning gift cards.....I don't subscribe to that in principle either. I do not buy gift cards at all.

    Yes I'll use them when received as gifts, but like mentioned above, I treat them as a coupon like everyone does with the leftover MSpoints. I'll always try and find a more expensive item I really like, but would never spend $$$ on, but with this nice coupon it seems that much more reasonable.

    yeah XBLA games to make me throw that principle out the window as the fun outweighs my petty beliefs.....but I still don't like it.

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  • bobmyknobbobmyknob 3DS Friend Code 4553-9974-2186 Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I think the gift card analogy isn't applicable. If I have $1.60 on a gift card, I can use cash in addition to pay the exact amount. With XBox Live, you have to buy another gift card to use the $1.60, leaving you perhaps with $1.60 still left over on your original gift card.

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  • AoiAoi Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Well, now ya don't have to.

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  • LunkerLunker Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Samphis wrote: »
    I don't understand why it bothers Lunker that other people are bothered by it. I was just posting an alternate method of buying points that will generally save people cash.

    Quit bothering me! D:

    Kidding. I'm not shitting on the way to buy 400-point increments, I think it'll make more people happy, but I've just seen enough people saying "I'm not buying a game I want because of the Funbuxx System" to make me wonder. I'll admit that I'm Part of the Problem, though, as I've bought so many oddly priced Rock Band songs and movie rentals that any concept of zeroing out my point balance has flown out the window.

    And seriously, guys, you should go buy points cards at Target next week anyway. Just buying retail cards in 1600pt and 3200pt intervals will bypass this whole debate.

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  • RWangsRWangs Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    In Canada they only sell those cards in 1400 and 2800 point increments. :S

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  • Shoegaze99Shoegaze99 Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I am glad for this.

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  • AoiAoi Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Lunker wrote: »
    Samphis wrote: »
    I don't understand why it bothers Lunker that other people are bothered by it. I was just posting an alternate method of buying points that will generally save people cash.

    Quit bothering me! D:

    Kidding. I'm not shitting on the way to buy 400-point increments, I think it'll make more people happy, but I've just seen enough people saying "I'm not buying a game I want because of the Funbuxx System" to make me wonder. I'll admit that I'm Part of the Problem, though, as I've bought so many oddly priced Rock Band songs and movie rentals that any concept of zeroing out my point balance has flown out the window.

    And seriously, guys, you should go buy points cards at Target next week anyway. Just buying retail cards in 1600pt and 3200pt intervals will bypass this whole debate.

    You are speaking to someone (Samphis) who owns in excess of like 90 Live Arcade titles. There IS no bigger source of the problem than he is. :lol:

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