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Self confidence - Teeth

jasonlesterjasonlester Registered User regular
edited August 2008 in Help / Advice Forum
For most of my life, I have had extremely low self confidence, mainly due to my teeth among a range of other things. My teeth are absolutely horrible. They are crooked, discolored and disgusting, despite brushing twice a day diligently since I can remember. I have no idea why they are like they are, but they are.

Every photo I see of myself, I'm not smiling. I can't stand the thought of me smiling in a photo. I don't even like talking to people. Whenever I do, I look directly at the ground. When I open my mouth slightly, I cover it with my hand to hide.

My high school life was good, and I had a relatively small group of close friends. Now that I have started college I'm meeting new people, and I'm finding if very difficult. I have more friends at college now than I did at High School in 6 years. I can't help but think what they think of me though. In conversations I usually keep quiet due to worrying about them seeing, and what I look like.

I'm 19 now, and have known I would need braces at one stage. I have put it off and off and should have got them last October, but I didn't. I really do need them, but I will have to have them for two years. As insignificant as this sounds in the grand scheme of things, I honestly don't think I'd be able to deal with it. I'm already down as it is, I just don't think I could handle it. I feel it would make my situation worse in the short run. People will notice them, I'd have to talk about them, Urgh. In the long run, I could get my teeth capped or whatever, and be normal.

This whole problem is so stupid, but I can't help it. I really don't know what to do anymore. I don't know how to not think this way.

I don't know what my girlfriend really thinks about it either. She insists she doesn't care, but once again, I can't shake the feeling that she really does. I'm so insecure.

I just don't know what to do anymore.

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  • Synthetic OrangeSynthetic Orange Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Just get the damn bracers.

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  • SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2008
    If something gets you down, you fix it. Shoot the sick puppy.

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  • exisexis Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Bracers are really not that bad. I had mine put in a couple of months ago. People barely notice them and usually only when I'm smiling a lot. I've had no negative reactions whatsoever, just "oh, you have bracers?". I probably wouldn't have wanted them while I was in high school, because kids suck. But like you, I'm at college, and they're not a problem at all.

    Seriously, get them.

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  • jasonlesterjasonlester Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Yeah, I know I should just get them. Why are people calling them bracers? I thought they were braces.

    I just wonder what could be done when I take them off, in terms of capping and such.

    How do you find they affect your daily life in terms of eating and even speech? Will I have a lisp?

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  • The CatThe Cat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2008
    Have you looked into Invisalign? I'm using them at the moment, close to halfway done with my treatment. Instead of the railway tracks, you get a set of clear retainers to wear for two weeks or so at a time. Each new set moves your teeth slightly further into place. You can take them out when eating, too. They're a little pricier, but worth it for the convenience, I think.

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  • EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Look, not everyone has perfect teeth. In fact a lot of people have pretty bad teeth -- snaggle tooths, gaps, overlaps, fillings galore, and so on. But most people don't really care about other people's teeth because it's a non-issue -- almost everyone of any consequence realizes that teeth are largely uncontrollable.

    What probably makes it worse, though, is that you're so self conscious about it that you end up drawing attention to it. If you're covering your mouth or trying hard to never let people see your teeth, you're probably just feeding people's curiosity -- "why is he laughing like that? oh, his teeth... he must be self conscious about them."

    But if it does bug you and you want or need braces, exis is spot on -- it's actually easier to have braces as an adult because people don't pick on you. Taunts of "metal mouth" are decidedly grade school. But, also, realize that people aren't judging you by your teeth, at least not anymore. Sure you may not land a role as the new face for Crest anytime soon, but if you try to get over it and just smile, you'll probably be happier sooner.

    And when you get braces, embrace them. Realize that they're going to make you like your teeth more; don't be embarrassed by something like that.

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  • jasonlesterjasonlester Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    The Cat wrote: »
    Have you looked into Invisalign? I'm using them at the moment, close to halfway done with my treatment. Instead of the railway tracks, you get a set of clear retainers to wear for two weeks or so at a time. Each new set moves your teeth slightly further into place. You can take them out when eating, too. They're a little pricier, but worth it for the convenience, I think.

    I have, but there is no chance.

    By horrible, I really do mean it. I'm talking two teeth on top coming out over other ones that haven't fallen out yet. I'll need to get 2 teeth pulled, and have them wired to come down.

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  • The CatThe Cat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2008
    Bummer. But here's the thing, the longer you leave it, the more difficult and painful it will be, because everything in your jaw hardens up with age. Bite the bullet, so to speak, and remember that this isn't just about looks - bad teeth are a legitimate medical issue. You're not just being vain or whatever in wanting a normal bite.

    Eggy, I think you're well and truly out of line in casting this as a vanity issue, even though the OP does need to fight past the self-conciousness in order to feel happy.

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  • 1ddqd1ddqd Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Dude, I feel you. I had braces from 7th grade (including a Herbst jaw alignment device) until I was a Junior in High School.

    Making it a point or topic of conversation really helps. In my case, I went from having Bugs Bunny mouth and a severe overbite and in just 6 months having a normal jaw and tooth alignment. After that, it was just growing into it.

    You need to do it NOW. The idea behind braces is that your teeth grow into the alignment and it's easier to stay that way. If you wait until you're an adult when you begin, you'll have to have them on 2+ years and wear a retainer religiously. Make an appointment TODAY, even if it's for another consultation. You need to get on this and face your issues. For me, it was talking about it or making it a point to mention it - the herbst helps, but many people have braces, so you're more than likely to find people who know exactly what it was like and are sympathetic.

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  • jasonlesterjasonlester Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Thank you for the advice. The teeth have actually come down a fair way now, since I put it off, am I screwed? I don't understand how they are going to position them properly. I'll make an appointment as soon as I can.

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  • The Black HunterThe Black Hunter The key is a minimum of compromise, and a simple, unimpeachable reason to existRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I had braces for 4 years

    Go for it son

    As for teeth colouration and cleanliness

    Replace your brush often, whenever the bristles are discoloured halfway down at the longest.

    Eat/drink less brown stuff, coffee, coke, chocolate, etc etc.

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  • SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2008
    Thank you for the advice. The teeth have actually come down a fair way now, since I put it off, am I screwed? I don't understand how they are going to position them properly. I'll make an appointment as soon as I can.

    They can still kind of tame them back into place; braces basically just apply pressure to the teeth in the direction you want them to move, then over a long time they gradually reposition. They might not be able to get them perfect, but perfect teeth look odd anyway. You don't want perfect teeth, just good healthy teeth. I think for extreme cases they can even go the plastic surgery route and basically bash your teeth out and reposition them 'correctly'.

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  • ArdorArdor Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I've known people in their late 20's and early 30's even who have gotten braces for the first or second time even.

    As you grow older, it typically becomes less of a negative (He he, he has braces!) and more of a positive since people realize you are taking care of yourself. As people grow older, they typically become more mature and see the practical side of things as well.

    I mean, anyone I know, if they saw someone my age (27) with braces, the comment they'd probably make is "Damn, that's late to get braces". As others have mentioned, braces are not uncommon. I wore them for years myself.

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  • DiscoZombieDiscoZombie Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    think of it this way. if you don't like the way your teeth look, braces will obscure them so people can't see your teeth. Honestly, get whatever dental procedures you can done. and stick with what the dentist tells you. I was not good at wearing my retainer after my braces, and my bottom teeth had a partial relapse and are somewhat out of whack.

    also, just don't be self conscious. obviously, MUCH easier said than done, but as others have said, the people who matter don't care. my ex had somewhat bad teeth, and that was the last thing I cared about. I still loved kissing her and all that.

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  • acidlacedpenguinacidlacedpenguin Institutionalized Safe in jail.Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    yeah definitely at this stage of your life it won't be "ololol that dude has braces" and more of "that dude's going to have a sexy smile"

    DO EEEEET

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  • EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    The Cat wrote: »
    Eggy, I think you're well and truly out of line in casting this as a vanity issue, even though the OP does need to fight past the self-conciousness in order to feel happy.

    I'm hardly saying it's vanity; I'm saying that many people are unhappy with their teeth, and that the OP isn't alone. If he has serious problems, braces probably won't give him "perfect teeth," but he should be OK with that.

    My point is that being so self conscious about it doesn't solve anything -- it draws attention to it, instead. He should get the braces, but instead of dreading them he should look forward to them.

    You're making it sound like I'm saying "suck it up, it's not so bad, no one likes their nose/ears/lips." I said "get the braces."

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  • tsmvengytsmvengy Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Do you go to the dentist? Because that's a good idea every 6-12 months...

    Also, get the braces. Adults don't friggin' care about them - that's little kid bullshit.

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  • FireflashFireflash Montreal, QCRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I too waited a long time to get my teeth fixed. And just like you I was really ashamed of them and it hurt my self confidence a lot. I finally ended up paying a good amount of money to get them fixed and it was worth every penny. My teeth aren't perfect now but they're all pretty well aligned together.

    It made me feel so much better about myself afterwards. I'm not ashamed to open my mouth anymore, and big smiles come naturally to me. Best decision ever.

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  • Locust76Locust76 Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    A friend of my father is either in his late 50s or early 60s and he got braces not too long ago, so apparently it's not really ever too late...

    They're not comfortable the first few days, and you'll be feeling the crunch after every adjustment, and there will be extra nooks and crannies to brush, but overall, the braces will be worth it.

    Just go to Walmart and buy one of those mega jugs of Ibuprofen, that stuff works wonders on tooth pain.

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  • DjeetDjeet Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Get the braces, if your teeth are real bad you'll likely need additional work. I've had them, and no one gives a shit, certainly not now that you're in college. Fixing janky teeth will drastically improve your self-confidence.

    I'm not sure what you mean by "capping", are you talking about getting veneers? Don't fucking do that if you have the opportunity to actually fix your teeth. Veneers are expensive to do well (as much or more than 2 years on braces), they have their own issues. A good set will last you maybe ten years, and then you have to do it again because they'll start getting loose and you're married to getting veneers again because most of your enamel has been filed off (and then again after 10 years, etc, until you die, unless you do dentures); each time you get a new set of veneers you'll have more enamel removed.

    To clarify, there's nothing wrong with having veneers, just don't get them if you can get your teeth fixed. You may think it's a quick fix, but getting braces would be the better solution.

    You'll miss things like apples, and gum and hard candy for the time you have braces, but the end result is well worth it.

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  • SeptusSeptus Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Do not wait. You're still at the age where braces might be considered normal. I'll probably have to get them soon, and I'm 26, and aside from what I'll probably feel as my own personal embarrassment, I'm actually a little worried how they might make me look younger than I already do, and what impression that will give in interviews or when networking with other people in my field.

    There's also another option besides invisalign(which also won't work for me), and that's lingual braces. They're applied to the backside of your teeth so they're not visible to other people. They may only work for either the top teeth or the bottom, I'm not sure, but you should check it out.

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  • ZeeBeeKayZeeBeeKay Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I'm a bit younger than you, but still "old" to have braces, and I've got them. I had similar problems with my teeth, but the great thing is with braces you can watch them move! You can look at your teeth in the mirror after you've had braces for a few weeks and they'll be straighter and more perfect looking, and it's a great way to get over self-consciousness about teeth.

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  • jefe414jefe414 "My Other Drill Hole is a Teleporter" Mechagodzilla is Best GodzillaRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Get the braces, suck up the fact that for the next two (or is it three?)years you will have braces and in two years, you will have had braces. Better to be looking in the rear view mirror at these things than wishing you were looking into it.

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  • jasonlesterjasonlester Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Thank you for all the advice, I really appreciate it. I'm going to make an appointment soon. I have a couple of other questions regarding braces if anyone knows. Do they impair your speech at all? I've heard some people that it did, and others it didn't. How do they affect... you know with the missus and such.

    I'm also worried about making them make me look younger. I'm already pretty short, and will be looking for a job in years time for my college course.

    Also, are there any whitening treatments that you can buy (even on the internet, doesn't have to be local) that actually work? I want to look into that too, but a) don't want something that will destroy my teeth and b) something that actually works. I have a white spot on my tooth (no idea why) but the rest aren't that color.

    Once, again, thanks a lot guys and girls :)

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  • The CatThe Cat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2008
    I lisp a little bit when my retainers are in, but most people apparently don't. You adapt after a few days in most cases. My mouth feels drier, too, but I don't think that would be a problem with the traditional braces.

    At-home whiteners are bollocks. And even the dentist ones aren't permanent; you have to change your diet to stop them going yellow again. Normal teeth aren't blinding white, so consider carefully whether its worth it to you.

    The little patches, as my dentist explained to me, are the result of changes in the enamel/tooth structure triggered by temporary things like childhood illnesses and certain drugs. Antibiotics are apparently one of the causes. Its not generally a structural problem, just a record of something that happened to you while that tooth was forming. But ask your dentist about stuff like this anyway, they'll be happy to answer your questions.

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  • DjeetDjeet Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    They do mess with your speech a little bit, but you'll quickly adapt. To speed that up just talk a lot, and enunciate more. Can't say about going downtown, I got mine in middle school and wasn't getting any.

    I don't think you need to worry about it making you look younger. Had a co-worker in her 30's who had them (she's small) and I don't think it made her look any younger. Why exactly would looking younger count against you? And your prospective employer will know how old you are anyways, when reading your CV or doing a background check.

    Most whitening agents (even OTC) are peroxide-based, and they'll work, but they'll fuck up your teeth if you do it too much. And if you drink tea/coffee or smoke, that will continue to stain your teeth. If you're going to have your teeth whitened wait til AFTER the braces. It's very possible that some discoloration will occur when you get the braces (little bits of metal glued to your teeth, but the uncovered bits will still be exposed to staining/bleaching agents you're ingesting). So wait til after your braces are off til you do any whitening (IMO).

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    edited August 2008
    When I was in my early teens I had bad teeth on a scale that was frankly epic. If I hadn't gotten braces I probably would have killed myself. Get braces and be staggeringly beautiful like me.

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  • BasilBasil Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Good teeth are a trip to the dentist away, man. I decided that having my jaw cut in half was not for me, but if you want to get things fixed, go for it.

    But in the mean time, you might wanna learn to ignore em. Braces will obscure them somewhat, but folks don't really care about teeth when they meet you unless you make them care. I don't think any less of a man with a missing tooth, I just figure he's got history. If your breath is good and you act the part of a fine, upstanding citizen that's exactly what you'll be in the eyes of those you meet.

    And do it soon, as they all say. You won't regret it in two years.

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  • UnderwhelmingUnderwhelming myMomIsTheJam July 13, 2013 Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I'm 25 and I've got some bad teeth. I'm just now about to get braces myself and I wish I'd done it right after high school. Everyone here is right, nobody in the real world gives a shit about if you have braces or not. I ran into someone with braces at work the other day and all that went through my mind was "Huh. Braces."

    Don't be ashamed. Smiling is important to your happiness. This is so cliche, but it isn't superficial stuff like your smile or your eye color that makes people want to be around you, it's who you are inside. Don't let this issue change who that is, or you'll regret it. The people you hang out with have already noticed your teeth, and because they still hang with you, you can tell they aren't bothered by them. So smile!

    Kudos for posting about this. I'm glad you're acting on the advice, too! Lots of luck!

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  • CorvusCorvus . VancouverRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Go for the braces man. Better to be doing it at 19 and wishing you had done it earlier than be wishing you'd had them done at 19 when you're 29. Even if it causes you some short term difficulties, you need to keep the big picture in mind.

    Hell, thats something in general to keep in mind to help with your confidence issues. Sometimes you have to do things that have short term unpleasantness to improve your life.

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  • BeckBeck Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Just so you know, nobody really looks at people with braces and goes "HAHA! LOOK AT HIM!" Try not to worry about it too much. I just wanted to inject that.

    But uh, those crest trays, I'm told, work wonders. I have no idea how they are for your teeth, but my mom used the strips for a short period of time, and really worked well to combat coffee stains and such. She also stopped drinking coffee, I don't know how well they would work if you kept chugging that shit.

    Keep in mind, you should brush your teeth after eating. So, twice a day is good, but if you give them a quick once-over mid-day after lunch, it can help keep them white. Stick to water, no juice or pop.

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  • jasonlesterjasonlester Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Thanks for all the replies. I've looked into those clear braces and I think I can get those. I can't get the lingual ones as far as I know. I will be asking a dentist though.

    It's not that I'm worried about people "teasing" me about braces. It's hard to explain. I'm just worried what they'll think of me. I know no one would say anything, I'd just be paranoid about what they're thinking. It's completely stupid though, so I'm just trying not to think about it.

    I've also taken the advice and given up soft drinks and such. My teeth aren't unhealthy per se, but they are discolored. When I go to the dentist, I haven't needed any fillings or anything.

    The white spot I think is fluoride or something. As a child I was incredibly sick with Asthma. That might have something to do with it. I just wish there was something that I could do before I put the braces on. Just something over the counter. I brush my teeth a lot, sometimes even 3 times a day, even more other times.

    I have no idea why they are discolored. I don't want them "white blinding white", but I want them a lot whiter.

    Thanks for all the help everyone.

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  • The Raging PlatypusThe Raging Platypus Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Again, don't worry so much about how they make you look. Braces are so ubiquitous nowadays that people will hardly fault you for having them. Hell, my DAD get himself some braces in his early 50's because he was sick of having to deal with his perpetually crooked teeth! If he can do it at his age, you certainly can. Go for it! =D

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  • jhunter46jhunter46 Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I'm also in the same boat, gap, buck teeth and an overbite. I never smile in pictures either.

    Go for the braces. I have to get my wisdom teeth out, and have a root canal and then I'm all over the braces thing as well.

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    edited August 2008
    Basically you can have braces for like two years (I had them for that long I think and my teeth were epic) and have people in that time maybe occasionally go "hee hee that guy has braces" or you can spend the rest of your life having women faint and babies scream every time you smile your hideous pirate smile.

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  • stigweardstigweard Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Just a note for when you are all through the process, be sure to keep retainers for the night. I never did and I need braces again years later. 3 years of braces and 4 years with a retainer and my teeth are nearly as bad as they were then. It took a long time and impacted wisdom teeth were a factor, but your teeth never really stop moving as you age.

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  • acidlacedpenguinacidlacedpenguin Institutionalized Safe in jail.Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I hated all the BS stuff that they never told me about. . . for example the "bar" on my bottom teeth that I'm supposed to keep forever, or the risk of actually killing the teeth (had to get an upside down root canal because orthodontist made a mistake) or the "you have to wear a retainer forever now."

    I wore the retainer for half a year before I stopped. Now the thing can't even fit in my mouth and my teeth have shifted slightly. . . But I actually think it's a bit of a bonus, because it looks like I've just had really nice teeth to begin with and people think that I have never had braces. . .

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  • RaneadosRaneados police apologist you shouldn't have been there, obviouslyRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    metal braces also have the habit of rubbing your inside cheeks sometimes

    that was annoying but didn't last long

    don't get discouraged, a few months/year on braces is a tiny price to pay for beauty

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  • sabyulsabyul Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    My braces hurt when I was playing the trumpet. But I had bad form and would push the thing against my face. And I am SUPER thankful that my parents made me do it (I didn't understand it / hated it at the time).

    Good choice man.

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  • DehumanizedDehumanized Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Raneados wrote: »
    metal braces also have the habit of rubbing your inside cheeks sometimes

    that was annoying but didn't last long

    don't get discouraged, a few months/year on braces is a tiny price to pay for beauty

    dental wax is your friend

    don't think i would have made it through two different sets of braces without it

    on a similar note, you'll probably get a retainer after your treatment. USE IT. i ended up having a second set of braces precisely because i was lazy about wearing my retainer. you'll probably have to wear it at all times (except when eating) for like 6 months, then one day a week or overnight.

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