[EQ]Everquest Yes people still play this.....

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edited September 2008 in MMO Extravaganza
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This thread is about the granddaddy of all MMORPG's EVERQUEST

EverQuest, often called EQ, is a 3D fantasy-themed massively multiplayer online role-playing game (MMORPG) that was released on March 16, 1999. The original design is credited to Brad McQuaid, Steve Clover, and Bill Trost. It was developed by Sony's 989 Studios and its early-1999 spin-off Verant Interactive. It was published by Sony Online Entertainment (SOE). Since its acquisition of Verant in late 1999, SOE develops, runs and distributes EverQuest.

Everquest was a hard game when it first came out and even today it is often more of a challenge than the new MMO's of today.

Mirage Guild and Electric Funstuff put it best I think in this video
The Next Everquest Expansion Announced! #15 Seeds of Destruction
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On Tuesday, October 21, 2008, the inhabitants of the world of EverQuest will explore the realm of time as they take a journey through the history of Norrath. Announcing EverQuest Seeds of Destruction, the 15th EverQuest expansion!



A shining portal leads to a distant future where Riftseekers have used the Plane of Time to corrupt the very fabric of reality. The world has been shattered into millions of pieces that spin aimlessly through the void. On the largest of these pieces is a shadowy figure tending to a lone seedling tree - the last living remnant of Norrath. This lone soul is the fallen god Zebuxoruk and the only being who knows the secret to repairing the shattered world.

To prevent the cataclysm and defeat the forces of chaos, players must journey through time portals to the greatest moments in EverQuest history. From the founding of Qeynos to the battle of Bloody Kithicor, players will be called upon to safeguard history and ensure that events unfold without interference from the gods of Discord.


Features

Along with the many new quests, items, spells, and alternate advancement (AA) abilities, Seeds of Destruction will include the following features:

* Mercenaries - For the first time in EverQuest history, adventurers will be able to hire non-player characters (NPCs) called mercenaries to aid them in their heroic endeavors. They will be valuable player assets as they thwart the efforts of Discord's dark god. The level and ability of the will scale to the appropriate level and will think and act for themselves with limited player guidance. They are designed for extra support or extra muscle in PvE encounters.
* Level Cap Increase - Players will now be able to achieve level 85! New high-level item sets, new alternate advancement ability lines and new spells await!
* 20 New Zones - Features re-imagined classic content and brand-new realms for adventurers to explore, including the eerie wasteland of the Void, the Battle of Rathe on the Plane of Earth, a smell of death in the Bloody Kithicor, the Oceangreen Hills before the founding of Qeynos, and the ultimate heart of darkness in the Plane of Discord.
* All Inclusive - The expansion includes all features and content from the 14 previous expansion packs.
* Legends of Norrath - The expansion includes Legends of Norrath digital card game client, with starter deck, booster pack and loot item.

Want to participate in the Seeds of Destruction Beta?

The Beta sign-up process has been made easier for you... and for us! The new system places you in a pool of potential beta testers. When the open stages occur, beta testers will automatically be selected from that pool. We will, however, still be limiting the number of participants during different Beta stages the difference is that now you don't have to wait for a window of opportunity. The Beta sign-up page will remain open throughout the Beta period. Once you sign up, you do not need to sign up again.

Sign up for the beta

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About the Game

Classes
Classes

The fourteen classes of the original 1999 version of EverQuest were later expanded to include the Beastlord and Berserker classes with the Shadows of Luclin (2001) and Gates of Discord (2004) expansions, respectively.

The classes can be grouped into those that share similar characteristics that allow them to play certain types of roles within the game when grouped with others. One way of grouping classes is described below.


Tank classes

"Tank" classes are those that have high numbers of "health points" for their level and can wear heavy armor. They also have the ability to taunt enemies into focusing on them, rather than other party members who may be more susceptible to damage and death.

* Warrior: the prototypical tank class, able to avoid and mitigate more damage than any other class. In a way, this is offset by their inability to cast spells.

* Shadow Knight: a durable tank class; this Warrior/Necromancer hybrid has vampiric and damage-over-time spells. Shadow Knights also have the unique ability to Harm Touch (do direct damage) every 72 minutes, the power of which increases in absolute terms but decreases relative to enemies' hit points as a player levels up. At higher levels, Shadow Knights are able to summon a weak pet, summon players' corpses who are in the same zone as them, and are able to feign death. The feign death ability allows the Shadow Knight to function as a "puller" for a group.

* Paladin: the "good" counterpart to the Shadow Knight, a Paladin is a hybrid Warrior/Cleric. They are able to Lay on Hands (heal themselves or another player) once every 72 minutes. At higher levels, paladins also receive some resurrection spells. Paladins are tough in melee, with some healing, protective, and stun spells. At mid-range levels, they have a "pacify" line of spells that allows them to function as a "puller" for a group.

DPS

The following classes are able to produce large quantities of damage to the enemy in a short period of time. Within the game, these classes are often referred to as 'DPS' standing for Damage Per Second.

The melee damage dealers have a medium number of hit points per level, but cannot wear the heaviest armors and are less likely than a "tank" class to be able to survive direct attacks for a sustained period of time.

* Beastlord: The Beastlord is a unique class which combines some powers from the Monk and Shaman classes along with a powerful pet. Beastlords can imbue their pets with powers and combat enemies with hand-to-hand skills or with weapons. They can also "de-buff" enemies with spells, and possess modest healing abilities. This diverse array of skills allows Beastlords to be effective solo adventurers at many levels as well as handy in a group setting.

* Berserker: A specialist form of the melee type, the Berserker is primarily a medium-armored, high-damage dealer that uses two-handed weapons and who can hurl axes and other thrown objects.

* Monk: As masters of martial arts, Monks are the hand-to-hand fighting experts and are a powerful melee damage-dealer. Monks have the ability to feign death with a high degree of reliability and other skills that enable them to be a strong "pulling" class.

* Ranger: A versatile hybrid class combining some of a Warrior's ability with a Druid's spells, Rangers are able to deal large amounts of damage both from a ranged distance and in melee. Their most unusual ability is to track unseen NPCs, for which they can be used as "pullers" in outdoor zones. Rangers also have the ability to "taunt" and in casual play can sometimes play the role of "tank".

* Rogue: With their backstab ability, Rogues are able to inflict the highest rate of damage of any of the classes, if they are in a party that can keep the opponent facing away from the Rogue. Rogues also have the ability to make poisons, pick pockets, and pick locks. Their abilities to sneak and hide allow them to walk past both living and undead mobs without being seen.

The "caster" classes have the lowest hit points per level and can only utilize the lightest of armors.

* Wizard: The primary nuking class; these casters are able to deal catastrophic damage to enemies over a very short time, particularly with their Manaburn skill. Wizards also have transportation spells that facilitate group travel to particular locations. One of four classes able to make spells using the spell research trade skill.

* Magician: Usually referred to as Mages, Magicians are similar to the Wizard class but with somewhat less power. They are able to summon strong elemental pets (which they rely heavily upon), pet armor and weapons, food, drink, and mod rods, which allow players to convert their health into mana. Magicians can also summon party members to different parts of a zone with the Call of the Hero spell, which can be helpful in raid zones. One of four classes able to make spells using the spell research trade skill.

* Necromancer: These masters of death are able to summon powerful undead pets and use a large variety of poison and disease-based damage-over-time spells. Necromancers are able to feign death, snare enemies, and summon players' corpses in-zone. They have a combination of skills and abilities, most notably the ability to snare (make an enemy run slowly) and fear (run in the opposite direction) that allows them to function as an effective solo class. One of four classes able to make spells using the spell research trade skill.

Crowd control / utility

These classes share the ability to restrain multiple enemies from attacking the party and also have the ability to increase party members' ability to regenerate mana at a faster rate.

* Enchanter: A caster class that has few hit points per level and can wear only the lightest forms of armor, Enchanters are crowd control experts and are the most proficient class at Charming, Stunning, and Mesmerizing enemies. They have the ability to Memory Blur an opponent (causing them to forget they were being attacked) or Pacify an opponent (making them oblivious to antagonists in the area), both of which may be extremely useful in avoiding unwanted skirmishes. Enchanters also have a wide range of utility spells, including the Clarity (AKA "crack") line of spells, which when cast on a player allows them to regenerate mana at an improved rate. In addition to being able to both increase players' rate of attack (with the Haste line of spells), and Slowing that of enemies, Enchanters may also cast Illusions on themselves and others, which may have no real benefit (other than conferring a new look) or may grant tangible benefits such as underwater breathing, flight, or a vampiric touch. Lastly, Enchanters possess the unique Rune line of spells, which creates a magical protective buffer against all forms of damage until it is has worn down. This class is also uniquely suited for the jewelcraft trade, because it is the only class able to enchant metals. It is also one of the four classes able to make spells using the spell research trade skill.

* Bard: a jack-of-all-trades class with fair melee ability, good armor, and the ability to play songs that benefit all nearby comrades, such as "crowd control" effects as well as mana and health regeneration. Bards do possess the unique ability to 'fade' from their enemies memories. This makes the bard an excellent pulling class. Bards possess lesser versions of many of the special abilities of other classes. They are known for their ability to increase the movement speed of their party faster than any mount or movement buff. Bards can weave the effects of up to four songs at once to confer the greatest advantage to their group. Bards themselves often do not receive the full benefit of their songs, but they can still be an effective solo class at many levels, especially with their strong "kiting" proficiency.

Healers

The "priest" classes have medium level of hit points per level and have access to healing and "buff" spells.

* Cleric: The most powerful healer in the game, and for the first few years of EverQuest, the only class capable of resurrection and the powerful spell Complete Heal. Clerics can wear the heaviest plate-mail type armors.

* Druid: A priest class that can cast healing spells, teleport, snare (slow down) enemies, and cast moderately powerful nuking and damage-over-time spells. The range of abilities allows druids to play multiple roles in a group or to solo effectively. Druids may only wear "leather class" armors. Druids also have a number of transportation spells that allow speedy movement throughout much of the gaming world. Their combined tracking and foraging skills make them excellent trade-skillers, in terms of finding various components necessary for baking, tailoring, brewing and the like.

* Shaman: As a priest class, they have access to healing and many lines of "buff" spells. Shaman possess strong damage-over-time spells, and are able to slow an enemy's rate of attack. Shamans, or "Shammies" may cannibalize their health to restore mana and may wear "chain mail" levels of armor. Because of the range of Shaman's spells, they are sometimes considered a "utility" class. Shamans are the only class able to make potions with the Alchemy skill.

Races
There are sixteen playable races in EverQuest, and a considerably higher number of non-player races. There are several notable differences between races beyond the visual; several races get enhanced night vision, forage, slam, hide, or sneak. The races also start off with different statistics, something that is now fairly irrelevant because of the ease of capping your stats.

Barbarians

Size - Large
Alignment: Good
Innate Abilities: slam

Dark Elves

Size - medium
Alignment: Evil
Innate Abilities: Hide and Ultravision

Drakkin

Size - medium
Alignment: Neutral
Drakkin get a unique series of AoE breath skills (aka Dragon Breath), that are DOTs + resist debuffs, the exact spell depends on the color (aka heritage) of the drakkin. These progressive abilities are quested, and start here.

Dwarves

Size - Small
Alignment: Good
Innate Abilities: Infravision

Erudites

Size - medium
Alignment: Neutral
Innate Abilities: none

Frogloks

Size - medium
Alignment: Good or Evil
Innate Abilities: Swimming (begin with skill of 125); Ultravision

Gnomes

Size - Small
Alignment: Neutral
Innate Abilities: Tinkering, Hide - capped at 75 (?)

Half-Elves

Size: Medium
Alignment: Neutral
Innate Abilities: Infravision

Halflings

Size: Small
Alignment: Good
Innate Abilities: Infravision; Hide (capped at 50); 5% xp bonus

High Elves

Size: Medium
Alignment: Good
Innate Abilities: Infravision

Humans

Size: Medium
Alignment: Neutral
Innate Abilities: none

Iksar

Size: Medium
Alignment: Evil
Innate Abilities: Infravision; Starts with Swimming Skill of 100; Innate AC bonus (with the downside that they can't wear pre-Velious plate); Forage (capped at 50); higher regen (scales with levels); eats faster than other races

Ogres

Size: Large
Alignment: Evil
Innate Abilities: slam; can not be stunned from the Front (unique ability!); eats faster than other races

Trolls

Size: Large
Alignment: Evil
Innate Abilities: slam; higher regen (scales with level); Infravision; eats faster than other races

Vah Shir

Size: Large
Alignment: Neutral
Innate Abilities: slam; eats faster than other races

Wood Elves

Size: Small
Alignment: Good
Innate Abilities: Infravision; Hide (skill 50); Forage (skill 50)

Good things to know

Right now thanks to the Living Legacy event there is a new type of armor dropping for all levels called defiant. It is much better than just about anything else you can get till the 70's. It can drop off any level appropriate monster. Unlike in some other games you still get loot of killing grays so you can farm this armor for alts or whatever or just to sell.

Money is easier to come by these days. One of the big money makers is legends of norrath booster packs. They drop rarely off anything in the game and sell for around 40K on my server and thats more than enough to deck out a low level character with some nice stuff.


Hotzones


There are now hotzones in the game. The hotzones have large XP bonuses as well as each having a new caster and melee item drop and an augment. The current hot zones are
- New Hot Zones: Franklin Teek has arrived in the Plane of Knowledge and will be happy to point you to the current location of a Hot Zone appropriate for your level. Franklin also has a series of tasks that can be done in each of the current Hot Zones. You may complete one (and only one) each day. The following zones are now Hot Zones with increased experience and rewards:

20 Lake of Ill Omen
25 Feerrott
30 Frontier Mountains
35 Tower of Frozen Shadow
40 Lower Guk
45 Wakening Lands
50 Old Sebilis
55 Blackfeather roost
60 Plane of Storms
65 Sunderock Springs
70 Riftseeker's Sanctum

There is a map system built in to the regular UI but it does not have a whole lot of maps. However there is a set of maps you can download that are great. Just download the whole thing and put it in your maps folder http://www.mapfiend.net/mappacks


Yes people still play this

Currently I am in a guild called Nostalgia the Guild on the Luclin server. We have been slowly working our way through all the old content. Thats us at the top of the page there from a few weeks ago when we were killing Lord Nagafen and Lady Vox.

Currently we have 2 different group nights. Our tuesday group is in their 30's and our Friday group is level locked at 60 right now working on epic 1.0's and other content around that level.

We are always happy to have more people join us. On non group nights generally there are only 1 or 2 of us around as most people seem to play EQ2 as well.

I livecast all of our Friday group nights on my justin.tv page Klank_Smash Games

If you are interested in joining the guild or have any questions just post on the webste or just ask here. Also if you play EQ or EQ2 already and want to talk to us we have an in game channel.

If you are on luclin its
/join Nostalgia

If you are on a different EQ1 server its
/join luclin.nostalgia

if you are on Everquest 2 its
/join EQ.luclin.nostalgia

Besides our guild I often see other guilds recruiting and its really not so hard to level these days.

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  • xYUUBINKYOKUxxYUUBINKYOKUx Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    9/3/08 Patch Note Highlights

    - Station Voice: Station Voice is a voice chat service powered by Vivox and included with certain SOE game subscriptions. Station Voice allows players to talk person-to-person in-game at no additional cost. Players can go far beyond basic real-time chat with the usual headset and microphone setup that is commonly used today, and will be able to access a suite of voice communication tools.

    Upcoming features are scheduled to include voice mail, the ability to receive external calls, and voice fonts to synthesize player voices into in-game character voices. Station Voice will be hosted and managed on the Vivox Network. Game software and headsets sold separately. Station Voice is also present in EverQuest II and Star Wars Galaxies.

    Features at Launch in EverQuest include:

    -- Talk person-to-person in game with any microphone and headset combo.
    -- Chat with your party, guild or any other group in game.
    -- Create automatic channels for guilds, raids and groups.
    -- Play and communicate without worry of a significant increase in game lag.
    -- Manage group/user participation with moderator controls.
    -- Individually mute and set volume per user Create automatic channels for guilds, raids and groups.
    -- Set up easily without the need for separate software, accounts or registration.

    (For details on Station Voice see below under the UI changes.)

    - Group Merge Ability: Looking to fill the last few spaces of your group? Groups now have the ability to merge with each other without disbanding from their own group!

    With this new feature, the group leader of one group can invite the group leader of another group to join his/her group. If the invitation is accepted, the two groups will merge together to form one group.

    This change merely allows groups to merge without having to make everyone drop out of their current group. All other group functionality should work as it did in the past. It does not increase the six person group maximum for groups.

    - Weightless Coinage: Coinage no longer adds to the weight of player characters. Adventurers all across Norrath rejoice... especially monks!

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  • ArthilArthil Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    This has nothing to do with the thread, but your signature is gigantic.

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  • xYUUBINKYOKUxxYUUBINKYOKUx Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    you are right. I just put the one off of the EQ players site in there. It was damn big. I made my own to replace it. I just like the one off the EQ site since its dynamically updated.

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  • ArkadyArkady Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    That is a staggeringly well made op for a 9 year old or so game. I'm kind of surprised that in the time since I quit (about 5 years ago at the tail end of ykesha) they've added no classes and only one race and are just now raising the level cap again.

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  • xYUUBINKYOKUxxYUUBINKYOKUx Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Thanks to hotzones and updates to old zones like splitpaw and currently blackburrow people even still use the old zones. I am actually in baston of thunder right now =)

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  • AresProphetAresProphet I see a darkness in my fate I'll drive my car without the brakesRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Thanks to hotzones and updates to old zones like splitpaw and currently blackburrow people even still use the old zones. I am actually in baston of thunder right now =)

    Man I remember when BoT was new and scary, and then it turned into Karnor's v2.0.

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  • TalTal Registered User
    edited August 2008
    Man, my first ever character was made on luclin. I think he ended up at 65 (?) as a shadowknight.

    Now I'm sitting here trying to figure out if I can fit this into my schedule again....

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  • belaraphonbelaraphon michiganRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    i did just reactive my account and have a 68 necro on luclin, but i think warhammer will consume all my time. i will keep you guys in mind though if i return.

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  • GrundlestiltskinGrundlestiltskin Behind you!Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I'm not sure I'd consider EQ the granddaddy of all MMORPGs, when you had games like The Realm Online, Meridian 59, and UO released well before it. As it stands, Richard Garriott is credited with coining the term "MMORPG" in the first place.

    Though that clearly was not the focal point of your OP, I'm aware. I just like to argue.

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  • xYUUBINKYOKUxxYUUBINKYOKUx Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I would put those others at great granddaddy status

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  • xYUUBINKYOKUxxYUUBINKYOKUx Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    New hotzones were part of todays patch

    - New Hot Zones: Franklin Teek has arrived in the Plane of Knowledge and will be happy to point you to the current location of a Hot Zone appropriate for your level. Franklin also has a series of tasks that can be done in each of the current Hot Zones. You may complete one (and only one) each day. The following zones are now Hot Zones with increased experience and rewards:

    20 Lake of Ill Omen
    25 Feerrott
    30 Frontier Mountains
    35 Tower of Frozen Shadow
    40 Lower Guk
    45 Wakening Lands
    50 Old Sebilis
    55 Blackfeather roost
    60 Plane of Storms
    65 Sunderock Springs
    70 Riftseeker's Sanctum

    I think they made some good picks this time. Old Seb, and Lake of Ill Omen are 2 of my favorite zones.

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  • juice for jesusjuice for jesus Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    We actually got some people to play for a couple weeks last time there was an EQ1 thread, doing an "old school" thing.

    No other game has been able to replace my Bard.

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    Lanlaorn wrote: »
    That's just insulting, I think DBZ is bad but I'm not going to insinuate that it only appeals to people who are equal parts retards and psychopaths.
  • KarrmerKarrmer Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    My lord what I would give to play this game again.

    How serious is your Nostalgia guild? Going through all the old content would be legendary... Velious is what dreams are made of.

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  • xYUUBINKYOKUxxYUUBINKYOKUx Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    We do it semi casually. We almost always meet on friday night unless there is some sort of holiday or something. Last night we did Old Seb sadly trakanon was not up then we did some plane of justice stuff and ended the night in plane of sky. Most of the week people tend to play EQ2 or other games. There are only a few of us that are on when there is nothing scheduled.

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  • KurnDerakKurnDerak Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I've been tempted to get back into EQ for years now. Yet I think more modern MMOs have spoiled me with all those quests, quick leveling, and low downtime. But damn do I miss me some EverQuest Monks and Magicians.

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  • xYUUBINKYOKUxxYUUBINKYOKUx Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    KurnDerak wrote: »
    I've been tempted to get back into EQ for years now. Yet I think more modern MMOs have spoiled me with all those quests, quick leveling, and low downtime. But damn do I miss me some EverQuest Monks and Magicians.

    Downtime is much lower these days. After 20 sec of not being in combat in a non raid zone if you sit you enter a rested state and your HP/Mana/Endurance comes back fast. As for the leveling it is also much faster than it once was. Thanks in part to the hotzones which are major bonus XP as well as things like spikeskin potions, healing potions, and haste potions. The Healing and haste ones are vendor bought in the PoK and the prices don't break the bank. The spikeskin ones are player made so the prices change quite a bit and they can sometimes be expensive.

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  • KurnDerakKurnDerak Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Bah, to get into the SoD beta (Gotta love SoE acronyms) I guess you have to be an active EQ player? I guess it makes sense, but would be nice if they put it somewhere. Or they just don't like me.

    I did the free trial a few times just to get a quick EQ fix, and there are some things I'm wondering. From that it looks like you get spells pretty often now compared to the previous 4-5 levels depending on class and level. As well, it looks like low level monks suck from what I remember... could barely solo the free trial.

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  • juice for jesusjuice for jesus Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Low level monks were always a bit of a challenge, IMO.

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    Lanlaorn wrote: »
    That's just insulting, I think DBZ is bad but I'm not going to insinuate that it only appeals to people who are equal parts retards and psychopaths.
  • KurnDerakKurnDerak Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I remember making an Iksar monk just after RoK came out, and owning it up in Field of Bone and Swamp of No Hope, for the most part. But when I did the free trial, the problem wasn't either the damage I could deal or the damage I could take, it was I missed at least 70% of the time it seemed. I tried other melee classes and they didn't seem to have this problem. Maybe it's just something in the trial.

    Ah, so many good EQ memories though. Feign Death fighting in Paludal Caverns. Just run into a camp, hit something, FD, stand up before it could heal, and repeat. Also, tanking in Karnor's Castle as a magician. Though it will definitely feel very odd to play on any server aside from the Test server, such as playing without the constant fear of the server going down or things breaking almost catastrophicly.

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  • juice for jesusjuice for jesus Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    KurnDerak wrote: »
    I remember making an Iksar monk just after RoK came out, and owning it up in Field of Bone and Swamp of No Hope, for the most part. But when I did the free trial, the problem wasn't either the damage I could deal or the damage I could take, it was I missed at least 70% of the time it seemed. I tried other melee classes and they didn't seem to have this problem. Maybe it's just something in the trial.

    One thing EQ's devs really should have looked at, and they never did afaik, is increasing the skillup rate on low level characters. Especially in the new tutorial, since you level up very quickly and there's no way to keep your skills "caught up" without sitting around casting over and over or tanking rats for 20 minutes to max out defense. That's probably what causes your 70% miss rate, since you can easily get to level 4 or 5 without seeing a single skillup in your melee/offense/defense skills. Also, the rest state sort of obsoletes the Iksar racial regen, which was the big selling point of Iksar monks back in the day.

    At least you start with max sense heading now.

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    Lanlaorn wrote: »
    That's just insulting, I think DBZ is bad but I'm not going to insinuate that it only appeals to people who are equal parts retards and psychopaths.
  • KurnDerakKurnDerak Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Yea, that's still one thing that I don't like that they did. I remember when EQ first came out, you could get enough money before level 10 or 15 abouts, and actually get all of your spells as a caster up to that point. There was a little catching up, but not bad. Then they increased the speed at which you level from 1 to 10, but not the amount of money you got. This is also the same with skills, though I did a shadowknight, did another melee class I think, and they didn't have anywhere near the trouble the monk did. Though I guess part of that is how skill focused the monk is and how little equipment does. So by mid teens you're still catching up on spells. However, at this point the whole 1-20 range really is such a small part of the game.

    Though I do have to ask, is the rate at which you gain money, and cost of spells in the tutorial the same as it is in the actual game? Because the tutorial goes up to... like 10 or so, and you'll be sepending several platinum on a spell by then. If you seriously start having to get money that fast, and do... platinum really is almost worthless at this point.

    Also, is sense heading really a useful skill at this point, or is it just an almost nifty thing you can max out for the hell of it?

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  • juice for jesusjuice for jesus Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Sense Heading used to be pretty useful, but now with the compass and maps not so much. I think it used to be that maxing it out made your compass/map more accurate but that's a moot point now because it starts out maxxed.

    You can make decent money in the tutorial zone farming the staves off higher level kobolds. I've walked out of the tutorial at level 10 with 100 plat before, untwinked.

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    Lanlaorn wrote: »
    That's just insulting, I think DBZ is bad but I'm not going to insinuate that it only appeals to people who are equal parts retards and psychopaths.
  • BikkstahBikkstah Registered User
    edited August 2008
    Oh man, this was my first MMORPG. I played after school in high school almost everyday. I played a mage to 65 during Planes of Power and then a shaman to 70 during Omens of War. Anyway to get these accounts back? Haven't logged in for at least 3 years.

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  • xYUUBINKYOKUxxYUUBINKYOKUx Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Bikkstah wrote: »
    Oh man, this was my first MMORPG. I played after school in high school almost everyday. I played a mage to 65 during Planes of Power and then a shaman to 70 during Omens of War. Anyway to get these accounts back? Haven't logged in for at least 3 years.

    If you have all the info then its as simple as resubscribing to it. If you don't have all the info but just some of it I imagine that you can call sony and they will ask for the number off the credit card that was used originally to sub and reset your info to whatever you want.

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  • Kevin CristKevin Crist I make the devil hit his knees and say the 'our father'Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    You can make decent money in the tutorial zone farming the staves off higher level kobolds. I've walked out of the tutorial at level 10 with 100 plat before, untwinked.

    I remember rats in the newbie areas would uncommonly drop a tail that would sell for 1plat to a vendor.

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  • belaraphonbelaraphon michiganRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    the game still has some problems leading new players around and ushering them into new spells and armor. i played through the new area with a friend and ended up with a bunch of +1 ac armor and about 50pp to my name. it would be nice to arrange the spells at vendors by level, but that is just wishful thinking from other mmos.

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  • juice for jesusjuice for jesus Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    You can make decent money in the tutorial zone farming the staves off higher level kobolds. I've walked out of the tutorial at level 10 with 100 plat before, untwinked.

    I remember rats in the newbie areas would uncommonly drop a tail that would sell for 1plat to a vendor.

    They nerfed those rat tails, IIRC.

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    Lanlaorn wrote: »
    That's just insulting, I think DBZ is bad but I'm not going to insinuate that it only appeals to people who are equal parts retards and psychopaths.
  • Asamof the HorribleAsamof the Horrible Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    You can make decent money in the tutorial zone farming the staves off higher level kobolds. I've walked out of the tutorial at level 10 with 100 plat before, untwinked.

    I remember rats in the newbie areas would uncommonly drop a tail that would sell for 1plat to a vendor.

    They nerfed those rat tails, IIRC.

    I remember those rat tails too! Nostalgia! Too bad SOE had to go and take something cool and make it lame...

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  • Kevin CristKevin Crist I make the devil hit his knees and say the 'our father'Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Sucks they nerfed the tails. That's how I got my Ogre Beastlord outfitted in the beginning.

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  • xYUUBINKYOKUxxYUUBINKYOKUx Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    cracked staff is still worth 4p

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  • KurnDerakKurnDerak Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Ah, cracked staff, gate way to riches. Getting those, and doing the bone chips quest in felwithe and the bonecrush belt quest in kaladim. Mmm, money and xp. I'm somewhat surprised how well I remember zone names and stuff with how long it's been since I've played.

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  • xYUUBINKYOKUxxYUUBINKYOKUx Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    KurnDerak wrote: »
    Ah, cracked staff, gate way to riches. Getting those, and doing the bone chips quest in felwithe and the bonecrush belt quest in kaladim. Mmm, money and xp. I'm somewhat surprised how well I remember zone names and stuff with how long it's been since I've played.

    EQ really makes a lasting impression on people. When I do the live casts of the friday group (though we did our thing thursday this week) I usually get lots of people that come in and like to reminisce about the good old days they had in one zone or another. Its always fun when people do that.

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  • KurnDerakKurnDerak Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    KurnDerak wrote: »
    Ah, cracked staff, gate way to riches. Getting those, and doing the bone chips quest in felwithe and the bonecrush belt quest in kaladim. Mmm, money and xp. I'm somewhat surprised how well I remember zone names and stuff with how long it's been since I've played.

    EQ really makes a lasting impression on people. When I do the live casts of the friday group (though we did our thing thursday this week) I usually get lots of people that come in and like to reminisce about the good old days they had in one zone or another. Its always fun when people do that.

    Yea, I still have songs/CDs that I can't listen to without thinking about where I was in EQ while listening to it. Like, Metallica - The Black Album was when I was in the East Commonlands I believe, if I remember well enough and that was just outside of Freeport. Tantric's self titled album brings back very vivid memories of a zone I can't think of the name of...D: Second zone into Velious, I remember hunting the walrus men a lot, killing at the orc keep and running super fast past the orcs in their little keep to get to crystal caverns.

    There is one zone that comes to mind sometimes when I hear Eifle 65's Blue (Da-Bu-Di) or whatever that was. Not because I spent time there, but because my friend would always play that song while he was there, and I would hear about it over and over from his brother. I can't think of the zone because I rarely spent any time there, but it was a zone that was like through a mountain pass or something like that on antonica.

    Gah, now I wish I had money... I wanna re-up my account and play again.

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  • juice for jesusjuice for jesus Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    KurnDerak wrote: »
    I can't think of the zone because I rarely spent any time there, but it was a zone that was like through a mountain pass or something like that on antonica.

    Highpass.

    And I have very strong associations with music and EQ, too. The Gorillaz first album always makes me think of Scarlet Desert, because I spent several levels there soloing while listening to that.

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    Lanlaorn wrote: »
    That's just insulting, I think DBZ is bad but I'm not going to insinuate that it only appeals to people who are equal parts retards and psychopaths.
  • Asamof the HorribleAsamof the Horrible Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I fondly remember highpass. Being an Iksar Shadow Knight, I couldn't just waltz in there or else the legion of guards would one shot me

    It's an awesome rush to run past all these incredible powerful gaurds with invisibility on, hoping to god that it doesn't wear off while i'm finding my way to the basement for goblin parties

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  • Kevin CristKevin Crist I make the devil hit his knees and say the 'our father'Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I always joined orc parties to gain rep with the highpass people. Being able to use the bank and vendors was a plus since they were so near to the goblins.

    And both the orcs and goblins were prime targets for a rogue's pickpocket.. :)

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  • xYUUBINKYOKUxxYUUBINKYOKUx Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I always joined orc parties to gain rep with the highpass people. Being able to use the bank and vendors was a plus since they were so near to the goblins.

    And both the orcs and goblins were prime targets for a rogue's pickpocket.. :)

    Highpass is one of the zones that has been redone. I imagine they did that because they had to connect it to blightfire moors. Its more or less the same layout as it was but it has all new textures and things these days.

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  • DraevenDraeven Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    no way i could go back to eq, its just not even in the same ball park of a game. Im glad they are still tending to the game but i can't believe they are still releasing Xpacks.

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  • KurnDerakKurnDerak Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I'm not at all surprised they are still releasing Xpacks at this point. I imagine EQ still has such a die-hard raiding fanbase that they can keep bringing out new stuff once a year and keep a decent cash flow coming in that way. Plus all the people that will occasionally want to come back and need to buy either the latest expansion or the EQ gold/platinum/whatever to catch up, which anymore aren't too badly priced.

    Also, I am still impressed with how long EQ has lasted. Is it the longest lasting MMO at this point, or is UO and a few others from before EQ still around? I keep very little track of stuff like that.

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  • TimmerTimmer Registered User
    edited September 2008
    KurnDerak wrote: »
    Also, I am still impressed with how long EQ has lasted. Is it the longest lasting MMO at this point, or is UO and a few others from before EQ still around? I keep very little track of stuff like that.

    UO is still going but I hear of more people playing EQ than UO. In fact, EQ still shows up on the population charts rather well for its age. I'm not sure when Lineage1 came out but it's still doing pretty well in Korea, too.

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