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I'm writing this in order to hear ideas regarding a coworker of mine. You see, he smells horrible. I'm not talking, unwashed rank kinda horrid. More like something that crawled inside a camel's ass, stayed there for a week and fell out dead horrid.
Now I'm aware that there are biological reasons why someone might smell like demon dung but the thing about this guy is you can't detect a hint of cologne or deodorant. The other thing is, he likes to talk. Not like, hey how's it going. More like, you're having a conversation and he interjects.
Now I'm all for telling him to douse himself in javex because he's the living spawn of a shit golem but I'd rather be tactful at work.
Where I used to work, basic hygiene was pretty much required. I don't know where you work, but if I were you I'd tell your supervisor or manager and let him know its affecting your work.
Unless you work at a game publisher...because those guys won't bath for a week and no one says shit about it.
Where I used to work, basic hygiene was pretty much required. I don't know where you work, but if I were you I'd tell your supervisor or manager and let him know its affecting your work.
Unless you work at a game publisher...because those guys won't bath for a week and no one says shit about it.
Just bring a cologne/parfume and just spray him if he comes near you. You might want to make some kind of a gagging sound while you do this... you know just to twist the knife a little bit.
Seriously though, just tell him straight off. We guys can take getting told that we smell without getting all sensitive about it.. (I'm assuming you're a female here, because if a male tells me that I reek, I'm probably gonna make myself reek more just to further piss him off).
Don't do any of that passive-aggressive shit. Instead, tell him "look dude, you're an allright guy, and this is really embarrassing for me to bring up, but you need to bathe more often."
My roommate in the Army had really bad psoriasis, which meant his skin was constantly scaly and flaking off. On top of that, he was a fucking slob, so he never really cleaned or vaccuumed. That meant that his skin flakes were all over his shit and essentially rotted, making his side of the room smell literally like rotting flesh. On top of that, applying any heat to his body (showering, for example) actually caused a worsening of the stench, so he actually came out of the shower smelling worse than before.
One time I cut his hair with electric clippers, and the electric clippers got very hot and burned the skin flakes. The room smelled like burnt, rotting flesh for about a week.
That probably doesn't help, I just wanted to share that story. It would probably do you a lot of good to directly confront this person and tell him flat out that he fucking stinks, instead of having him going around thinking he smells like roses while everyone around him are too prudish or whatever to actually say something to him that might hurt his feelings.
I fourth the direct approach. It's just a fact that does not reflect on him as a person at all, so just state it politely and matter-of-factly. I think Makershot proposes a good approach. Make sure that he understands you don't mean it as a personal affront. Also, make sure you bring it up somewhere with a bit of privacy to minimize how self-conscious it makes him feel.
Unless you work at a game publisher...because those guys won't bath for a week and no one says shit about it.
Dear Sir,
I object in the highest possible manner to your previous statement, re: people who work at game publishers. I myself have worked at no less than three different game publishers, and I feel the need to point out that there were no smelly people there to speak of.
I would appreciate it if you you could refrain from making similar comments in the future.
Colonel S.M. Ellie-Rottingburgh (Mrs.)
P.S.: The fact that I have had both my nostrils nailed shut as a result of a botched field-medic surgical procedure should have no bearing on my previous statements.
leave a note in his work mailbox (if he has one). It will say, simply, "You stanky." Add wavy lines above the word "stanky" for emphasis. Include a stick of deodorant and/or soap. You may remain anonymous.
edit: lol @ whup's response. pretty much even better than my suggestion. Some of these are gold... "Please consider trimming some ear hair." "There seems to be some back-hair poking out of your shirt collar."
I don't think there is a nice way to tell someone they smell, they are always going to be offended to some extent. But he also has to take responsibility for the fact his smell if offending others. He may also be aware that he smells but maybe hopes that no one else notices.
The best method I find is to not make a big deal about it, don't go for the whole intervention method where you sit him down and have a heart to heart.
Anytime I have to broach the subject with someone it usually goes like this:
me(smiling): so skipped out on the deodorant this morning then?
co-worker: ha ha, yeah, whatever.....
me: ha ha, yeah but really
co-worker: Really? O_O;
me: nah, just a little bit, not that bad, I'm probably worse, ha ha
co-worker: ha, ha *takes a discreet sniff* ah, Ok, thanks
me: k, cya
co-worker thinks to himself: wow this guy is cooler than Jesus 8-)
Then we both go our separate ways, enriched and enlightened by the whole experience.
Ok, up until the Jesus part, that's usually how I do it because I'm quite blunt and a bit of an ass hole but it gets the message across and my co-workers pretty much know what I'm like at this stage.
I used to work with a guy that smelled like ass as well. Really the best method would be the direct method stated above. It's not nice, it's not friendly but you bring it up and there are no crossing wires about it.
Go to your supervisor, its not your place to tell someone they need to bathe regularly, but someone higher up should sit his ass down and tell him bathe or don't come back.
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Go to your supervisor, its not your place to tell someone they need to bathe regularly, but someone higher up should sit his ass down and tell him bathe or don't come back.
Especially since personal hygiene is normally in the employee handbook.
Giving the person deodorant has not worked in my previous experiences. It's kinda like giving a starving child a meal. The problem needs to be addressed at the source - the fact that the person doesn't shower or has other hygeine issues and secondly, that they don't buy and use their own deodorant.
Sometimes they will use what you give them, but it only puts a sickly scent over the top of crotch-rot-stink. Then once it's run out... why would they buy more? They never have before.
Supervisor is probably the best route, the only direct approach that I think would otherwise be successful is some kind of intervention of that person's own social group, which I assume you don't belong to.
Go to your supervisor, its not your place to tell someone they need to bathe regularly, but someone higher up should sit his ass down and tell him bathe or don't come back.
Especially since personal hygiene is normally in the employee handbook.
Generally yeah, and if you don't go to the supervisor and go the route of giving him deodarant, soap, etc. He could take it to be harrasment.
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Not to hijack the thread or anything, but I have a similar problem with a kid in one of my classes. He's a freshman, I'm a senior (thus I have mastered the whole 'shower' thing) and...well, the first day, he sat behind me and it was just a wave of horrible air that kind of overtook me. Should I give him time to hopefully start showering on his own (or brushing his teeth. It smelled like a combo of both)? I'd really not want to knock poor freshman guy's self-esteem around considering he just started college and all...but...its not a good smell. We've had two classes this semester so far, and his odor has been brought (fairly quickly) to my attention on both days.
Unless you work at a game publisher...because those guys won't bath for a week and no one says shit about it.
Dear Sir,
I object in the highest possible manner to your previous statement, re: people who work at game publishers. I myself have worked at no less than three different game publishers, and I feel the need to point out that there were no smelly people there to speak of.
I would appreciate it if you you could refrain from making similar comments in the future.
Colonel S.M. Ellie-Rottingburgh (Mrs.)
P.S.: The fact that I have had both my nostrils nailed shut as a result of a botched field-medic surgical procedure should have no bearing on my previous statements.
This was the funniest thing I've read all day. Thank you so much for that, hahaha.
The direct approach is probably the best, but it's awkward for everybody involved when you tell somebody they stink. An anonymous note in the mail should also do the trick, and would make it less embarrassing for the smelly guy. Something simple: "Just a warning: it's noticeable that you don't shower enough and don't use deodorant. Everyone can tell, they're just too nice to say anything. Please shower and use deodorant everyday. -Anonymous." That seems like it would be effective and has less of a chance of making Mr. Smelly feel totally embarrassed all day.
Sometimes little changes can make a big difference. I have a sweat problem, tried antipersperant and fans and what have you. Nothing worked. Then I started wearing a thin cotton undershirt, and it's not a problem any more. It seems like it wicks the sweat away before I'm noticeably wet (and thus I'm more comfortable even when it's hot), and I've noticed that the extra layer is enough to keep my work shirts from smelling of BO.
But that was more advice for the guy you're complaining about. Don't be passive. Either confront him directly or go for a direct anonymous message via interoffice mail or that nicecritic site. If it doesn't change tell a supervisor and be done with it.
The direct approach is probably the best, but it's awkward for everybody involved when you tell somebody they stink. An anonymous note in the mail should also do the trick, and would make it less embarrassing for the smelly guy. Something simple: "Just a warning: it's noticeable that you don't shower enough and don't use deodorant. Everyone can tell, they're just too nice to say anything. Please shower and use deodorant everyday. -Anonymous." That seems like it would be effective and has less of a chance of making Mr. Smelly feel totally embarrassed all day.
I dunno if its just me, but if someone left an anonymous note about me stinking, it'd make me paranoid for at least the rest of the day.
The only route in this situation is supervisor, in my opinion. Its his job to see to the runnings of your workplace. He gets paid to have awkward conversations.
with how PC work places are nowadays you might want to be careful about confronting the stinker directly
for all you know he has a proven medical condition that makes him smell like a shallow grave, and talking to him about it violates his civil rights as a Stinky-American
Take me for example, I have horrible gas that, in my opinon, sadly makes me smell like ass... And I work in a retail environment, can be pretty entertaining, but no one's called me out on it yet... It's just unfortunatly I just have REALLY bad gas that doesn't go away without releasing, and letting time pass...
"Why don't you hold it?"
Yeah, I'm sorry, I used to hold it in, but it typically always hurt me in the long run, had the problem since high school, which is when it hurt me mostly for lack of embarrasing myself...
In other news, I would let the person know, assuming you feel comfortable enough letting them know... I had a co-worker who used to work for the same retail chain as me who'd come in and smell like ass too, worse than me in fact because it was constant, never had the nads to tell him...
I'm going to back up the direct approach. Friendly, and more like you're concerned than anything else.
I had a friend back in high school with whom I tried to drop hints. So many hints. If she took her shoes off, you'd practically die. It got to a point where I would go over to the shoes and spray hers, and mine (to sort of be like "see, everyone needs hygiene!"), and she'd just kind of think it was something I did all the time -- never took the hint. (How would she know that I didn't do that to everyone's shoes all the time?)
Then. I was babysitting one night, and she showed up to hang out with me there. This family was a very blunt, close family. My friend came in, I introduced her to the kids and the parents (they hadn't left yet), and then ... she took her shoes off.
Immediately, the older child (6 years old), goes, "Ewwww, who smells so BAD!?" and the mother chimed in, "UGH! WOW! Someone really needs to wash their feet and shoes!"
My friend went beet red, and it wasn't a problem from then on after.
Direct approach. Had a friend in HS that had breath that smelled like a garbage dump in July. Told him one day, "Dude, hate to say it but you're breath smells like a garbage dump in July.", he laughed thinking I was kidding, then said "Seriously." and offered him a stick of gum.
From that day forward, dude always had a pack of Big Red with him.
Fuck the passive aggressive shit. Sack up and tell him he's an odoriferous abomination (perhaps in nicer lingo). Up to you if you want to pay for his first stick of deodorant or bar of soap. If he's got a condition that makes him stink like shit, tell him you're sorry for that and that he should probably see a doctor. If you think that could be a problem, yeah, talk w/ your supervisor. He can check w/ HR to see if there might be a condition or something.
But most likely his ass doesn't shower in the morning. Oh, and he might want to consider Antiperspirant + Deodorant if he's just using antiperspirant because I've known people who used that to stop the sweat stains but still smelled stanky cause of the lack of deodorant.
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Raneadospolice apologistyou shouldn't have been there, obviouslyRegistered Userregular
edited August 2008
don't jump straight to a boss and whine and moan
just take the guy aside, talk to him like a person, say he kind of smells, he might have a damn good reason
dude, I've been meaning to say
?
you kind of smell
?
you smell bad sometimes, should I be worried?
no
okay then could you try and stop it?
sure
Take me for example, I have horrible gas that, in my opinon, sadly makes me smell like ass... And I work in a retail environment, can be pretty entertaining, but no one's called me out on it yet... It's just unfortunatly I just have REALLY bad gas that doesn't go away without releasing, and letting time pass...
"Why don't you hold it?"
Yeah, I'm sorry, I used to hold it in, but it typically always hurt me in the long run, had the problem since high school, which is when it hurt me mostly for lack of embarrasing myself...
You're probably eating too much fiber.
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I dunno if its just me, but if someone left an anonymous note about me stinking, it'd make me paranoid for at least the rest of the day.
The only route in this situation is supervisor, in my opinion. Its his job to see to the runnings of your workplace. He gets paid to have awkward conversations.
An anonymous note would make me feel paranoid as well if I didn't ignore it altogether, pass it off as some kind of joke.
Has to be face to face, supervisor will work too but I still vote for the more direct approach of manning up and telling him yourself.
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edited August 2008
If it was me, I'm sure nothing would really make me feel better about it. That said, I would want someone to tell me. I would also want them to do it in private as an aside, without jokes, in a "hey, I just wanted to let you know that I can smell you and it's not good" kind of way.
When I said "really?", which I would say, I would want the person to just say yes. I would ask what it smelled like and how strong or bad it was, because that might tell me what the problem was.
I doubt he's going to go cry or anything, but he really should be a little conscious of it.
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I was the stanky one at work not too long ago (I later figured out my sweater smelled like cat crap; I still don't know why I couldn't detect it myself--I can sure as hell figure out when their box needs a-changin'). Lemme tell you, having my supervisor do it was one of the least-fun things ever. Not knowing which of my coworkers complained just compounded problems I already had with the place, and I ended up quitting.
Anonymous notes...might be okay, if they were polite. Anonymous deodorant "gifts" are an asshole thing to do and, paradoxically, will not work. If I'd been told, "Look, I'm really sorry to say this, but your hygiene could use some work," I'd have been hurt, but mostly embarrassed, and burned everything in my wardrobe to make sure it didn't happen again. As it was, I didn't feel comfortable there again after that.
An anonymous note in the mail should also do the trick, and would make it less embarrassing for the smelly guy. Something simple: "Just a warning: it's noticeable that you don't shower enough and don't use deodorant. Everyone can tell, they're just too nice to say anything. Please shower and use deodorant everyday. -Anonymous." That seems like it would be effective and has less of a chance of making Mr. Smelly feel totally embarrassed all day.
Wrong.
If I tell you you stink, as far as you're concerned I may be the only one who's noticed. If I leave a message for you that says "Holy shit, we all think you reek, fucking bathe. Everyone you work with notices this shit." which do you really think is less embarassing?
Tell the guy to the face "Hey man, I thought I should tell you before someone else brings it up in a less kind way, or involves a supervisor, but you should really do something about your hygene. I can smell it pretty often, and I wanted to give you a chance to take care of it before someone makes an official issue over it."
Tell the guy to the face "Hey man, I thought I should tell you before someone else brings it up in a less kind way, or involves a supervisor, but you should really do something about your hygene. I can smell it pretty often, and I wanted to give you a chance to take care of it before someone makes an official issue over it."
This is a great idea. But oh wait lets just say the guy has a condition that can't be helped, that HR is aware of. Then after your confrontation he decides to go to HR due to prejudicial remarks from you. You just got written up for not following your own employment rules which would state in these situations go to a supervisor. Its what they get paid to deal with not you.
It doesn't even matter if its a medical condition or not, you're just screwed if it is. Its not your place to confront another employee. Ever under any circumstances, and plenty of places will put you on a documentation including and up to termination for doing so.
It doesn't even matter if its a medical condition or not, you're just screwed if it is. Its not your place to confront another employee. Ever under any circumstances, and plenty of places will put you on a documentation including and up to termination for doing so.
Take a stick of deodorant, put a bow on it, and stick it on his desk before he comes in.
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Unless you work at a game publisher...because those guys won't bath for a week and no one says shit about it.
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Just bring a cologne/parfume and just spray him if he comes near you. You might want to make some kind of a gagging sound while you do this... you know just to twist the knife a little bit.
Seriously though, just tell him straight off. We guys can take getting told that we smell without getting all sensitive about it.. (I'm assuming you're a female here, because if a male tells me that I reek, I'm probably gonna make myself reek more just to further piss him off).
One time I cut his hair with electric clippers, and the electric clippers got very hot and burned the skin flakes. The room smelled like burnt, rotting flesh for about a week.
That probably doesn't help, I just wanted to share that story. It would probably do you a lot of good to directly confront this person and tell him flat out that he fucking stinks, instead of having him going around thinking he smells like roses while everyone around him are too prudish or whatever to actually say something to him that might hurt his feelings.
Pretty simple. Gets less so the longer you know the guy without manning up and telling him, though... so just do it.
I object in the highest possible manner to your previous statement, re: people who work at game publishers. I myself have worked at no less than three different game publishers, and I feel the need to point out that there were no smelly people there to speak of.
I would appreciate it if you you could refrain from making similar comments in the future.
Colonel S.M. Ellie-Rottingburgh (Mrs.)
P.S.: The fact that I have had both my nostrils nailed shut as a result of a botched field-medic surgical procedure should have no bearing on my previous statements.
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edit: lol @ whup's response. pretty much even better than my suggestion. Some of these are gold... "Please consider trimming some ear hair." "There seems to be some back-hair poking out of your shirt collar."
The best method I find is to not make a big deal about it, don't go for the whole intervention method where you sit him down and have a heart to heart.
Anytime I have to broach the subject with someone it usually goes like this:
me(smiling): so skipped out on the deodorant this morning then?
co-worker: ha ha, yeah, whatever.....
me: ha ha, yeah but really
co-worker: Really? O_O;
me: nah, just a little bit, not that bad, I'm probably worse, ha ha
co-worker: ha, ha *takes a discreet sniff* ah, Ok, thanks
me: k, cya
co-worker thinks to himself: wow this guy is cooler than Jesus 8-)
Then we both go our separate ways, enriched and enlightened by the whole experience.
Ok, up until the Jesus part, that's usually how I do it because I'm quite blunt and a bit of an ass hole but it gets the message across and my co-workers pretty much know what I'm like at this stage.
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Especially since personal hygiene is normally in the employee handbook.
Sometimes they will use what you give them, but it only puts a sickly scent over the top of crotch-rot-stink. Then once it's run out... why would they buy more? They never have before.
Supervisor is probably the best route, the only direct approach that I think would otherwise be successful is some kind of intervention of that person's own social group, which I assume you don't belong to.
Generally yeah, and if you don't go to the supervisor and go the route of giving him deodarant, soap, etc. He could take it to be harrasment.
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Listen to Makershot.
True. Just say "You smell like my dead mother's asshole. You should clean yourself". If that is not clear enough, pour bleach on him.
This was the funniest thing I've read all day. Thank you so much for that, hahaha.
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But that was more advice for the guy you're complaining about. Don't be passive. Either confront him directly or go for a direct anonymous message via interoffice mail or that nicecritic site. If it doesn't change tell a supervisor and be done with it.
I dunno if its just me, but if someone left an anonymous note about me stinking, it'd make me paranoid for at least the rest of the day.
The only route in this situation is supervisor, in my opinion. Its his job to see to the runnings of your workplace. He gets paid to have awkward conversations.
for all you know he has a proven medical condition that makes him smell like a shallow grave, and talking to him about it violates his civil rights as a Stinky-American
Take me for example, I have horrible gas that, in my opinon, sadly makes me smell like ass... And I work in a retail environment, can be pretty entertaining, but no one's called me out on it yet... It's just unfortunatly I just have REALLY bad gas that doesn't go away without releasing, and letting time pass...
"Why don't you hold it?"
Yeah, I'm sorry, I used to hold it in, but it typically always hurt me in the long run, had the problem since high school, which is when it hurt me mostly for lack of embarrasing myself...
In other news, I would let the person know, assuming you feel comfortable enough letting them know... I had a co-worker who used to work for the same retail chain as me who'd come in and smell like ass too, worse than me in fact because it was constant, never had the nads to tell him...
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I had a friend back in high school with whom I tried to drop hints. So many hints. If she took her shoes off, you'd practically die. It got to a point where I would go over to the shoes and spray hers, and mine (to sort of be like "see, everyone needs hygiene!"), and she'd just kind of think it was something I did all the time -- never took the hint. (How would she know that I didn't do that to everyone's shoes all the time?)
Then. I was babysitting one night, and she showed up to hang out with me there. This family was a very blunt, close family. My friend came in, I introduced her to the kids and the parents (they hadn't left yet), and then ... she took her shoes off.
Immediately, the older child (6 years old), goes, "Ewwww, who smells so BAD!?" and the mother chimed in, "UGH! WOW! Someone really needs to wash their feet and shoes!"
My friend went beet red, and it wasn't a problem from then on after.
So yeah. Direct.
From that day forward, dude always had a pack of Big Red with him.
Fuck the passive aggressive shit. Sack up and tell him he's an odoriferous abomination (perhaps in nicer lingo). Up to you if you want to pay for his first stick of deodorant or bar of soap. If he's got a condition that makes him stink like shit, tell him you're sorry for that and that he should probably see a doctor. If you think that could be a problem, yeah, talk w/ your supervisor. He can check w/ HR to see if there might be a condition or something.
But most likely his ass doesn't shower in the morning. Oh, and he might want to consider Antiperspirant + Deodorant if he's just using antiperspirant because I've known people who used that to stop the sweat stains but still smelled stanky cause of the lack of deodorant.
just take the guy aside, talk to him like a person, say he kind of smells, he might have a damn good reason
dude, I've been meaning to say
?
you kind of smell
?
you smell bad sometimes, should I be worried?
no
okay then could you try and stop it?
sure
You're probably eating too much fiber.
An anonymous note would make me feel paranoid as well if I didn't ignore it altogether, pass it off as some kind of joke.
Has to be face to face, supervisor will work too but I still vote for the more direct approach of manning up and telling him yourself.
When I said "really?", which I would say, I would want the person to just say yes. I would ask what it smelled like and how strong or bad it was, because that might tell me what the problem was.
I doubt he's going to go cry or anything, but he really should be a little conscious of it.
Anonymous notes...might be okay, if they were polite. Anonymous deodorant "gifts" are an asshole thing to do and, paradoxically, will not work. If I'd been told, "Look, I'm really sorry to say this, but your hygiene could use some work," I'd have been hurt, but mostly embarrassed, and burned everything in my wardrobe to make sure it didn't happen again. As it was, I didn't feel comfortable there again after that.
Wrong.
If I tell you you stink, as far as you're concerned I may be the only one who's noticed. If I leave a message for you that says "Holy shit, we all think you reek, fucking bathe. Everyone you work with notices this shit." which do you really think is less embarassing?
Tell the guy to the face "Hey man, I thought I should tell you before someone else brings it up in a less kind way, or involves a supervisor, but you should really do something about your hygene. I can smell it pretty often, and I wanted to give you a chance to take care of it before someone makes an official issue over it."
This is a great idea. But oh wait lets just say the guy has a condition that can't be helped, that HR is aware of. Then after your confrontation he decides to go to HR due to prejudicial remarks from you. You just got written up for not following your own employment rules which would state in these situations go to a supervisor. Its what they get paid to deal with not you.
On the off chance it's a medical condition.
Whatever.
Take a stick of deodorant, put a bow on it, and stick it on his desk before he comes in.