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Live Action Cowboy Bebop? Wellll....KEANU REEVES. FUCK.

Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
edited September 2008 in Debate and/or Discourse
http://www.scificool.com/keanu-reeves-as-spike-in-cowboy-bebop-live-action-movie/
So, I missed this by a mile but a friend shot me this link the other day. Now, I think a live action Bebop could work. But it'd be a miracle if it were faithful to the animation. But now, Keanu has been tied to it (thankfully only a rumor so far, but just the idea is terrifying).
Not to knock Keanu, but this isn't his kind of movie. The part calls for someone with a better sense of humor, and something like the ability to display emotion other than beffudlement or amazement. The actor's gotta have range.
Pushing aside other issues (like the rumored 'Neo-Manhattan' setting), Spike should be done justice the most, as he is pretty much the central character. My perfect casting is this fella:
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Joseph Gordon-Levitt, for his similar role in Brick. Despite being young, he is the best choice for the role, hands down.
Other things needed for the movie to not suck:
The original soundtrack. Or updated, but still the same songs please.
Don't get too bogged down into what happened to earth. Focus on the characters.
I'd say take 2-3 episodes and put them together, or take the plot of the movie, Knockin' on Heaven's Door.

Thoughts? Is it a train wreck or a godsend?

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  • TavTav Irish Minister for DefenceRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Train wreck.

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  • BarkeepBarkeep Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    No.

    No.

    NO!

    Aughh! This can only end badly D:

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  • ThetherooThetheroo Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I foresee bad things happening with this movie.

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  • InvisibleInvisible Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I don't even know how they could do a live action movie and be faithful to the series. Plus the music is just as important as the characters and setting, and I can't see them getting that right.

    Like the Speed Racer movie and soon the Dragonball Z movie, just because you can do something in live action doesn't mean you should. Unless you plan on doing it LotR style, it's best to just leave it alone.

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  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Speed Racer was fun.

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  • InvisibleInvisible Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    Speed Racer was fun.

    I didn't actually see it. I meant more in the sense that it costs some ungodly amount of money to make, but hasn't made back its production costs yet.

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  • ThetherooThetheroo Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Invisible wrote: »
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    Speed Racer was fun.

    I didn't actually see it. I meant more in the sense that it costs some ungodly amount of money to make, but hasn't made back its production costs yet.

    Speed Racer was fucking awesome. It was like 2 hours of awesome cars, pretty tracks, and wonderful art design. If you didn't go in expecting story and dialogue you had a blast.

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  • RenzoRenzo Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    firefly already exists. I don't think a Bebop movie will do what it did any better.

    hell, Cowboy Bebop already exists. no need to remake it.

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  • GreeperGreeper Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Well, plot's never been TOO important, unless they do Vicious or something like the animated movie. Uh, dialog is key, as always, characterization, action, music and visual style all need to mold together seamlessly.

    Can't see it happening.

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  • yakulyakul Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    It'd be easier to do a live action Lupin.

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Reeves could at least do the physical parts of Spike Well. And he's got a similar gravely voice like spike.

    Gordon-Levitt would be horrible. Part of the fun of Bebop was the action, and I couldn't see him doing that at all.

    Jett Blacks a bit harder to cast, I'd say Tiny Lister.

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  • TheSuperWootTheSuperWoot Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Yeah but I've never really seen Reeves in anything where he portrayed a playfull but serious guy like Spike well.

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  • yakulyakul Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Jack Black as Faye I guess?

    I'm only familiar with Bebop from anime conventions.

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Yeah but I've never really seen Reeves in anything where he portrayed a playfull but serious guy like Spike well.

    He can do comedy, he can do angry. He'll just have to combine them both. Then again I don't have the nerd rage against reeves like most do. I mean look at Speed that was kind of a playful, but serious guy.

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  • TheSuperWootTheSuperWoot Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Fuck Jack Black then, too expensive. Might as well just go get Man-Faye, I bet he would do the movie for free.

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  • TavTav Irish Minister for DefenceRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    yakul wrote: »
    Jack Black as Faye I guess?

    I'm only familiar with Bebop from anime conventions.

    Ha.

    :^:

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Major Bebop spoiler:
    Seriously, how many times are they going to kill Spike?

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  • TheSuperWootTheSuperWoot Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Drez wrote: »
    Major Bebop spoiler:
    Seriously, how many times are they going to kill Spike?

    Wait, how has it been more than once?

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Drez wrote: »
    Major Bebop spoiler:
    Seriously, how many times are they going to kill Spike?

    Wait, how has it been more than once?

    See: OP.

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  • GreeperGreeper Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Drez wrote: »
    Major Bebop spoiler:
    Seriously, how many times are they going to kill Spike?

    Wait, how has it been more than once?
    Well, he likes to say he's died three years ago, although he probably didn't. Uh, he got bit by that evil thing in Toys in the Attic that kills people, so he probably died then. And then at the end of the show he died via sword wounds.

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  • Wonder_HippieWonder_Hippie __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2008
    I don't understand why the idea of Keanu Reeves is terrifying. Characters don't often emote in anime. All the emotion is displayed in the dialogue, and this show is one of the few exceptions where that's not always the case, but only for Spike and sometimes Jet.

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Greeper wrote: »
    Drez wrote: »
    Major Bebop spoiler:
    Seriously, how many times are they going to kill Spike?

    Wait, how has it been more than once?
    Well, he likes to say he's died three years ago, although he probably didn't. Uh, he got bit by that evil thing in Toys in the Attic that kills people, so he probably died then. And then at the end of the show he died via sword wounds.

    God dammit I'm making a Keanu Reeves joke here.

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I still think he can do it well, spike is if anything bitter about the way things turned out. The more important thing I'd be worried about would be the music, without Yokko this thing is dead.

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  • TheSuperWootTheSuperWoot Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Drez wrote: »
    Greeper wrote: »
    Drez wrote: »
    Major Bebop spoiler:
    Seriously, how many times are they going to kill Spike?

    Wait, how has it been more than once?
    Well, he likes to say he's died three years ago, although he probably didn't. Uh, he got bit by that evil thing in Toys in the Attic that kills people, so he probably died then. And then at the end of the show he died via sword wounds.

    God dammit I'm making a Keanu Reeves joke here.

    Damn you, anyway:
    I thought he was just talking about he died metaphorically for the three years thing, and wasn't toys in the attic where the lobster/crab thing from the fridge was attacking everyone?

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  • GreeperGreeper Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Actually the more I think about it the more I'm okay with it. Spike's either cool and calm, which Keanu can do. Or he's pretending to be light-hearted and funny which Keanu can at least pretend to be, or else he's melancholy and depressed which I dunno if Keanu can do. I mean I guess he was a little in The Matrix, but Spike's just not depressed like Neo is, you know?

    Definitely the issue's the music, for me.

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    It's the music and if they get the guy who did the choreography for the matrix, because if that guy is on board throw it away it'll be trash. Wire work is so boring.

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Preacher wrote: »
    It's the music and if they get the guy who did the choreography for the matrix, because if that guy is on board throw it away it'll be trash. Wire work is so boring.

    The film Matrix, or the musical Matrix?

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Drez wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    It's the music and if they get the guy who did the choreography for the matrix, because if that guy is on board throw it away it'll be trash. Wire work is so boring.

    The film Matrix, or the musical Matrix?

    The musical, all those dance numbers were terrible and the tap portions were embarrasing.

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  • FunkyWaltDoggFunkyWaltDogg Columbia, SCRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Drez wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    It's the music and if they get the guy who did the choreography for the matrix, because if that guy is on board throw it away it'll be trash. Wire work is so boring.

    The film Matrix, or the musical Matrix?

    The fact that it's even possible to ask this question makes me wonder at the nature of reality.

    Back on topic, I'll wait to abandon all hope until we hear who's cast as Jet or Ed.

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  • ZampanoZampano Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
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    I could actually live with Stephen Dorf and Clancy Brown. Not so much Cameron Diaz.

    EDIT: And fuck John Woo.

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Drez wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    It's the music and if they get the guy who did the choreography for the matrix, because if that guy is on board throw it away it'll be trash. Wire work is so boring.

    The film Matrix, or the musical Matrix?

    The fact that it's even possible to ask this question makes me wonder at the nature of reality.

    Back on topic, I'll wait to abandon all hope until we hear who's cast as Jet or Ed.

    Eds a bad character for an introduction, worked on the show, wouldn't work for the movie. Also poor ein wouldn't end up being a corgi so I know that he'd get fucked up as well better left out of the movie (they'd probably make him a doberman or german sheppard and he'd have the ability to talk). Faye could work if they didn't go with Angelina Jolie, but they will so she should be left off too.

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  • ZampanoZampano Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Yeah, a good 50% of Faye's character is how her outward persona really hides how insecure and helpless she is, and I don't know if I could buy Angelina Jolie at that angle.

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  • Johnny ChopsockyJohnny Chopsocky Scootaloo! We have to cook! Grillin' HaysenburgersRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Zampano wrote: »
    EDIT: And fuck John Woo.

    You wash your mouth out with SOAP.

    And seriously? Keanu's not a bad choice. Shit, I even didn't mind him in Constantine.

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  • TheSuperWootTheSuperWoot Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I liked Constantine, don't see why everyone hated it.

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  • manaleak34manaleak34 Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    They should just re-release the animated movie in theaters. Much easier and much better. :P

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  • TalleyrandTalleyrand Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I didn't mind him in Constantine either but I think he's a terrible choice. Honestly I'd have more confidence if they didn't try to get starpower by signing up bigname actors while sacrificing the actual quality of the movie. If I see them using people I've never heard of before, then I'm interested.

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  • ZampanoZampano Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I liked Constantine, don't see why everyone hated it.
    I think most of the people that hated it were fans of the comic book, since Keanu Reeve's character bore no resemblance whatsoever to the one from the comics.

    Having never read a single issue, I thought it was pretty decent. It had Peter Stormaire as the devil, which is totally rad.

    But I still don't think that Keanu Reeves is a worthwhile match for Spike. Spike's stoicism is of a subtly different style from that which Reeves has exhibited in pretty much all his movies since Bill and Ted, and I really have my doubts that he would be able to hit it properly.

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  • psycojesterpsycojester Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I liked Constantine, don't see why everyone hated it.

    Because it was an absolute raping of the franchise for no good reason. They could have just called it fucking Keanu Reeves: Deamon hunter and saved some cash.

    Hellblazer is about a sarcastic punk English guy who's more con-artist/criminal/detective than mage, who gets the absolute shit kicked out of him a lot and tends to get dragging into matters instead of seeking out evil to thwart. There's nothing catholic about the series, Constantine doesn't give a shit about heaven and he certainly isn't looking to act as their hitman. The whole thing about angel/deamon half breeds never shows up in the series either.

    Basically all the Constantine movie did was tie up the franchise and stop anybody from making an actual Hellblazer movie.

    Also i'm getting in early with the cynicism and betting that Cowboy Bebop turns out mediocre at best and i'm going to have to spend a lot of time justifying the original series to my friends as a result of this movie.

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  • ZampanoZampano Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Plus, Constantine would have been Protestant, being English and all.

    So I guess that's a pretty big deal too.

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  • HakkekageHakkekage Space Whore Academy summa cum laudeRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Keanu would be great as Spike, if it were only the live action version of the Mushroom episode, and he spent the movie drooling and climbing up the stairway to heaven.

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