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Pregnancy scare

Dance CommanderDance Commander Registered User regular
edited August 2008 in Help / Advice Forum
My girlfriend is normally very regular. Cramps a week before her period, periods like clockwork. Last month she was under a lot of stress and it came a week late. This month, it's three days late and she hasn't even had cramps yet.
We use the rhythm method in addition to condoms, which I'm quite sure we use correctly. There was one point just before her period this cycle was supposed to start when I put a condom on backwards then reversed it, but I'm pretty darn sure there was no pre-come on it, and that was like... a week ago, anyway. We weren't even together for the three weeks after her last period.
So now she's all freaked out about being pregnant, and she was puking like crazy last night for no clear reason, and she's got me kind of rattled too. I know she's not, but it would help me a lot to just hear it from some other people.

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  • ceresceres When the last moon is cast over the last star of morning And the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited August 2008
    If she's missed her period already, she should take a pregnancy test. Getting all worked up about it before she's done that is only going to make things worse.

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  • Dance CommanderDance Commander Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    She hasn't missed a period. The last one was 5 days late and this one is 3 days late -from her normal schedule-. It's still two days ahead of where it should be relative to the last one.

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  • the cheatthe cheat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2008
    how about she gets on the pill? the rhythm method is only good for trying to get pregnant. and uh, you should keep some of the morning after pill around in case you do something stupid like that again.

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  • RaggaholicRaggaholic Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    We use the rhythm method...
    Expect problems in the future.

    I'm no expert on the lady parts, but if you're really worried, get a pregnancy test. They're extremely reliable, and this includes the ones they sell at the Dollar Tree. That's probably your best bet.

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  • jhunter46jhunter46 Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    My wife and I have been together for almost 9 years now and I am reasonably sure that not getting pregnant is the easiest thing in the world.

    Always have a backup method of birth control. There are quite a few out there and the least reliable is the rhythm method.

    Do some research, sit down to talk to her and you should decide together what the best course of action is.

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  • SarcastroSarcastro Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Unless you have religious objections (and even then) get on the pill. The rhythm method is used by families to reduce the chances of children, but with the expectation that pregnancy can still happen. If you're not in a place to get pregnant, it's not what you're looking for- a girl can get pregnant at any time, regular periods or not, because you don't effing know whether there's an egg availible for fertilization. The rhythm method is an educated guess, but still just a guess. Family planning, IMO, is somthing you should know about.

    Anyways, get a store bought test, they are cheap and effective, and good luck with that- you have every reason to worry, because you've been playing russian roulette with the one-eyed tiger. Could be this is the time it takes a chunk out of you.

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  • ceresceres When the last moon is cast over the last star of morning And the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited August 2008
    They're using condoms too though.. Dance, I really think you're fine. She hasn't even missed a period, for Pete's sake, she doesn't need to be puking her guts out with worry right now. IF she actually does miss her period, then you go out and get a pregnancy test and deal with it then.

    You guys use condoms with spermacide, right? Because you need to be doing that.

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  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    She hasn't missed a period. The last one was 5 days late and this one is 3 days late -from her normal schedule-. It's still two days ahead of where it should be relative to the last one.

    And you're worried now? Even though there's no reason to believe she's pregnant? For the sake of both of your sanities, get her on the pill.

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  • VisionOfClarityVisionOfClarity Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    There are so many option for female birth control it's not even funny and there's no excuse to not use one. I would suggest the pill but that's only a real effective method when taken like clockwork, which most women don't. I'd say look into the depo shot. As long as you get your shot on time it's pretty much idiot proof.

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  • DmanDman Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    There are so many option for female birth control it's not even funny and there's no excuse to not use one. I would suggest the pill but that's only a real effective method when taken like clockwork, which most women don't. I'd say look into the depo shot. As long as you get your shot on time it's pretty much idiot proof.

    I would like you to present this case better if it is not too much trouble. My girlfriend has older sisters, each of which who went on the pill gained weight. One of her older sisters and her mother both got cancer at young ages. When she brings these objections up along with the I don't want to mess with my body/hormones argument I give in.

    Is there a reliable method besides condoms (the idea is to use 2 methods one being condoms) to prevent pregnancy that won't increase the risk of getting fat/cancer/moody etc?

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  • the cheatthe cheat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2008
    morning after pill is a good back up if you fail at using condoms again.

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  • KatoKato Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Dman wrote: »
    There are so many option for female birth control it's not even funny and there's no excuse to not use one. I would suggest the pill but that's only a real effective method when taken like clockwork, which most women don't. I'd say look into the depo shot. As long as you get your shot on time it's pretty much idiot proof.

    I would like you to present this case better if it is not too much trouble. My girlfriend has older sisters, each of which who went on the pill gained weight. One of her older sisters and her mother both got cancer at young ages. When she brings these objections up along with the I don't want to mess with my body/hormones argument I give in.

    Is there a reliable method besides condoms (the idea is to use 2 methods one being condoms) to prevent pregnancy that won't increase the risk of getting fat/cancer/moody etc?
    She is right. The pill can do some funky things to her body. It has a lot of side effects, but for the most part, most women don't suffer anything too terrible. But if there is a history of it in her family, then she has every right and desire to stay off the pill.

    So what do you do then?

    Condoms are pretty damn effective when used correctly. She can also get the sponge and after every sexy time, go to the bathroom and clean up. If you aren't against the abortion scenario, then the day after pill works pretty good too. Again...use condoms and make sure you are using them correctly and get some with the spermicidal lubricant. If you fuck up putting it on...get another. Don't take any chances.

    Some girls get on the depo shot. It can pretty much kill her chances for a baby (or make them very very slim, like the pill does) for 3 months. It's a shot..and it usually takes 3 months for it to really be effective (ie...wait till the second dose before you go bareback). There's also that thing that clips in to the uterus...but that can carry a lot of side effects as well.

    If she is not sure what to do...ASK YOUR DOCTOR!

    My wife refused to use the pill. She doesn't like shots and didn't want to get the T clip thing in her uterus as there are even more issues that can happen there with some women. We used rubbers. In 7 years, we have had 2 kids (aged 7 and 3 now). We had those kids because we sometimes couldn't wait or we were stupid and didn't use rubbers ;) Now though, I got a vasectomy, but that's besides the point.

    What I am trying to say...is that YOU should respect HER decision and be FULLY understanding of her decision to NOT go on the pill. It's not simply her responsibility to ensure there is no pregnancy...it is both of yours. And if you aren't comfortable with just the condom alone, there are some other methods available to you. Maybe you should skip the sexy time for a while until you or her alone feel more comfortable about it.

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  • KatoKato Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Also...don't wear 2 condoms...that is a terrible terrible plan. They rub on each other and can break and the barrier they provide is weakened. Don't do it.

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  • the cheatthe cheat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2008
    the morning after pill is NOT an abortion... it prevents ovulation.

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  • KatoKato Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    the cheat wrote: »
    the morning after pill is NOT an abortion... it prevents ovulation.
    Let's not get in to that discussion ;) It's a debatable issue. Some DO view it as abortion...but again, this isn't the place to discuss it.

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  • VisionOfClarityVisionOfClarity Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Some girls gain weight from the pill, others don't. I lost about 10 pounds when I went on it in high school and my younger sister didn't have any weight changes. That's the thing about hormones, they affect everyone differently. That being said, she can lose the 10 pounds she might not even gain from the pill, it's a lot tougher to lose a baby.

    If she doesn't want to mess with her hormones than she needs to see her gyno and talk about cervical caps, diaphragms and sponges asap. Honestly, I would never trust condoms alone and with one scare under your belt it's becoming obvious she's not as regular as you thought making FAMs a lot less reliable until she's fully regular again.

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  • the cheatthe cheat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2008
    Kato wrote: »
    the cheat wrote: »
    the morning after pill is NOT an abortion... it prevents ovulation.
    Let's not get in to that discussion ;) It's a debatable issue. Some DO view it as abortion...but again, this isn't the place to discuss it.

    fine...



    ...not an abortion! *runs away*

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  • VisionOfClarityVisionOfClarity Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    the cheat wrote: »
    Kato wrote: »
    the cheat wrote: »
    the morning after pill is NOT an abortion... it prevents ovulation.
    Let's not get in to that discussion ;) It's a debatable issue. Some DO view it as abortion...but again, this isn't the place to discuss it.

    fine...



    ...not an abortion! *runs away*


    Well you're right, there is an abortion pill but it's entirely different. Most people don't quite realize that though.

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  • TrowizillaTrowizilla Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    She's almost definitely not pregnant. The throwing up is probably from stress, which can also make her periods late.

    She does need to speak to a gynecologist and get on some other form of birth control if she's going to freak out like this. There are umpty-billion kinds of female birth control, several of which are non-hormonal (like a copper IUD or a properly-fitted diaphragm). Go with her to Planned Parenthood and talk to a doctor.

    If she absolutely doesn't want to take steps to make extra-sure she's not pregnant and if she's still freaking out after you use condoms, she probably shouldn't be having sex at all.

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  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    There's really not much in the way of scientific studies linking the pill to cancer, but it sounds like you won't be able to convince your GF of that.

    At any rate, since this is becoming a big issue you really need to explore some sort of option besides condoms. Yes, men should take responsibility too, but they aren't quite as reliable as most of the female birth control methods.

    Incidentally, my GF was very, VERY nauseous for a couple days this month... turns out it was premenstrual hormones combined with stress. She got her period the next day.

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  • ElinElin Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    The Nuva ring is pretty decent for no weight gain. Do not use Depo. Depo causes MUCH more weight gain than the pill. What you need to do is sit down with your girlfriend in front of the Planned Parenthood website. Go down the list of BC methods and note side effects. Make a pro/con list for everything. If you have questions write them down and make an appointment with her doctor. If she doesn't have one, well, that's what PP is for. Call them, use the resources they provide.

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  • Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Kato wrote: »
    the cheat wrote: »
    the morning after pill is NOT an abortion... it prevents ovulation.
    Let's not get in to that discussion ;) It's a debatable issue. Some DO view it as abortion...but again, this isn't the place to discuss it.

    You don't get to throw out disinformation on the grounds that "it's debatable." It isn't. The morning after pill is not an abortion pill, full stop.

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  • ElinElin Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Dyscord wrote: »
    Kato wrote: »
    the cheat wrote: »
    the morning after pill is NOT an abortion... it prevents ovulation.
    Let's not get in to that discussion ;) It's a debatable issue. Some DO view it as abortion...but again, this isn't the place to discuss it.

    You don't get to throw out disinformation on the grounds that "it's debatable." It isn't. The morning after pill is not an abortion pill, full stop.

    Let me say I'm not on EITHER side of the issue.

    Some people - including my doctor - feel that life occurs at the fertilization of an egg. If that egg is then prevented from implanting then that is an abortion. That is why my doctor will not place a copper T IUD, as that also prevents implantation. That's where the "debate" comes into it.

    I'm not debating either side of that, it's just the way the information was explained to me when I was asking about getting an IUD.

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  • DmanDman Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I greatly appreciate all the advice. I would like to point out that I sort of accidentally hijacked the thread and I am not the OP, but we are still on topic. Sorry for the confusion. The OP's girlfriend may not be against "the pill" or whatever, who knows, still good to hear about more of the options.

    We have used spermicides and sponges and what not. Sponges apparently won't be the greatest solution (for my gf) because your suppose to leave it in place for 6 hours after sexy time finishes, no clean up right after, in case anyone was planning on that.

    I'll encourage her to look into things.

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  • KatoKato Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Elin wrote: »
    Dyscord wrote: »
    Kato wrote: »
    the cheat wrote: »
    the morning after pill is NOT an abortion... it prevents ovulation.
    Let's not get in to that discussion ;) It's a debatable issue. Some DO view it as abortion...but again, this isn't the place to discuss it.

    You don't get to throw out disinformation on the grounds that "it's debatable." It isn't. The morning after pill is not an abortion pill, full stop.

    Let me say I'm not on EITHER side of the issue.

    Some people - including my doctor - feel that life occurs at the fertilization of an egg. If that egg is then prevented from implanting then that is an abortion. That is why my doctor will not place a copper T IUD, as that also prevents implantation. That's where the "debate" comes into it.

    I'm not debating either side of that, it's just the way the information was explained to me when I was asking about getting an IUD.
    Thank you. I'm all for abortion, but like you said, there is plenty of debate as to when and where life begins..and abortion occurs. We don't know the politics/religious viewpoints of said couple in question, hence why I said if you have no issues with abortion...

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  • Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    There isn't a debate. An abortion is the termination of a pregnancy. The morning after pill stops a pregnancy from ever taking place. It can do this by precluding fertilization by suppressing ovulation or by preventing a fertilized egg from successfully implanting in the uterus (which also happens naturally all the time.) It isn't an abortion, and calling it that is wrong, regardless of what your doctor believes about the "beginning of life."

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  • the cheatthe cheat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2008
    it is not even designed to prevent implantation. there is a slim chance that it will do that. the same chance as the regular birth control pills. so if you think this is an abortion pill then you have to say that the regular birth control pill is also one.

    i think it is mainly the religious right that was all up in arms over this. making up stupid excuses to get people not to enjoy sex. as if decent birth control just makes people have copious amounts of premarital sex.

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  • VisionOfClarityVisionOfClarity Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Elin wrote: »
    The Nuva ring is pretty decent for no weight gain. Do not use Depo. Depo causes MUCH more weight gain than the pill. What you need to do is sit down with your girlfriend in front of the Planned Parenthood website. Go down the list of BC methods and note side effects. Make a pro/con list for everything. If you have questions write them down and make an appointment with her doctor. If she doesn't have one, well, that's what PP is for. Call them, use the resources they provide.

    I've been on Depo for a year now. I actually lost weight and continue to because when I found out it could cause weight gain I began exercising more and watching my diet. Anything hormonal can make you gain weight the key is to do something about it instead of going 'oh crap depo made me fat'.

    Personally I swear by depo, not only is it more effective than the pill but I only need to remember to get my shot every three months to use it correctly as opposed to making sure I take my pill at the exact same time everyday. Very few women actually do that which is why the pill's typical effective rate is much lower than it's perfect use effective rate.

    Elin wrote: »
    Some people - including my doctor - feel that life occurs at the fertilization of an egg. If that egg is then prevented from implanting then that is an abortion. That is why my doctor will not place a copper T IUD, as that also prevents implantation. That's where the "debate" comes into it.

    The only thing you should be doing is finding a doctor who doesn't let his personal and likely religious views affect your medical care.

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  • ceresceres When the last moon is cast over the last star of morning And the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited August 2008
    Depo (the shot) is a really good way to gain a lot of weight really fast and then never be able to get it off.

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  • VisionOfClarityVisionOfClarity Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    ceres wrote: »
    Depo (the shot) is a really good way to gain a lot of weight really fast and then never be able to get it off.

    Meh, I stand by it. Like I said, I've been able to steadily lose weight while on it, about 30 pounds so far, as opposed to gaining oodles of it. According to most medical studies there is no significant difference between the amount of weight gained on Depo vs the pill. Also, the typical weight gain in these studies is between 3 and 5 pounds only. Considering the pill has a higher failure rate I'd take 5 pounds over a baby. You gain a lot more weight preggers.

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  • That_Spoony_BardThat_Spoony_Bard Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Hormonal birth control affects everyone differently. I know several females who, when on the pill, gain several lbs. When my wife was on the pill, she didn't notice any weight gain. She was on the depo shot for a while and she gained several lbs (and also lost a lot of her sex drive D:). Now she's switching back to the pill.

    If one form doesn't work for you (side effects or whatever), talk with your doctor and try a different method.

    Also, planned parenthood is a great resource.

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  • SarcastroSarcastro Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    The ring is good for the lowest amount of hormone, and it works very well, with very few side effects. Also, pretty easy to remember because its a once a month thing.

    Depo is the worst for side effects because the hormones given are overkill, it's the same chemicals as the pill, only more so- impossible to forget though.

    The t device doesn't use any hormones, but there can still be side effects- most young people cant get them, because of fears regarding damaging the uterus. It's unlikely, but it can happen. After a kid or two though, doctors stop caring. It's also instantly (ala doctors visit) reversible.

    With cancer concerns, hormonal control needs to be discussed with a doctor. Some body mentioned diaphragms, which are decent, though not as effective as the pill. when used with a decent spermicide, like a foam, for example, success rates go way up.

    There are pros and cons to all of them.

    I liked the crack about weight gain; yup, 5-10 pounds may seem like a bastard, but it sure beats 7 pounds 9 ounces of actual bastard.

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  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Sarcastro wrote: »
    The ring is good for the lowest amount of hormone, and it works very well, with very few side effects. Also, pretty easy to remember because its a once a month thing.

    Depo is the worst for side effects because the hormones given are overkill, it's the same chemicals as the pill, only more so- impossible to forget though.

    The t device doesn't use any hormones, but there can still be side effects- most young people cant get them, because of fears regarding damaging the uterus. It's unlikely, but it can happen. After a kid or two though, doctors stop caring. It's also instantly (ala doctors visit) reversible.

    With cancer concerns, hormonal control needs to be discussed with a doctor. Some body mentioned diaphragms, which are decent, though not as effective as the pill. when used with a decent spermicide, like a foam, for example, success rates go way up.

    There are pros and cons to all of them.

    I liked the crack about weight gain; yup, 5-10 pounds may seem like a bastard, but it sure beats 7 pounds 9 ounces of actual bastard.

    I love that line.

    but ya, I use a condom with spermicidal lubricant, and my girlfriend is on the pill the chances of getting pregnant are so small I can't even calculate it.

    Getting pregnant is actually really fucking hard. Some people just have luck when it comes to it. The situation determines whether it's good luck or bad luck .

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  • ElJeffeElJeffe Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2008
    A) She's probably not pregnant, as has been said. Chill.

    B) You're with this chick for the long term? You have sex often? Stop right now and come up with a contingency plan. If she does get pregnant, what do you do? Morning after pill? Abortion? Keep it? Get married? My wife was on the pill and has only one functional ovary and the other one was in such a condition that when she later got her tubes tied, the doctor actually called everyone around to point out how freaky it was, like we were in a sit-com. Even given that, she got pregnant on accident. Point being, things happen, and without a contingency plan, things can go south really fast. This situation is a good segue into that sort of conversation. If something happens again, it won't be nearly as stressful because you'll know in advance what you're going to do.

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  • the cheatthe cheat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2008
    murphy's law has a lot to do with getting pregnant.

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  • Mad JazzMad Jazz gotta go fast AustinRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    One thing that hasn't been mentioned about Depo that should be is that, unlike many of the other birth control options out there, you can't decide to stop taking it if you have bad side effects; you're stuck for 3 months, or until all the hormones are out of your system. That's not to say it's a bad option (like everything else, it's what works for you), but it's something that needs to be taken into consideration.

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  • Dance CommanderDance Commander Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    On a related, kind of upsetting note, I just recently (a week ago) switched from Trojan-ENZ spermicidal condoms to Trojan Magnums. To my dismay, upon checking, the new condoms are not spermicidal like I thought, and no spermicidal version seems to exist. Does anyone know where I can find similarly sized condoms with spermicide?
    Also, yes, she's been opposed to the pill because she doesn't believe in western medicine. I'm using this opportunity to get us down to planned parenthood, though, something I've been advocating for months.

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  • TrillianTrillian Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    On a related, kind of upsetting note, I just recently (a week ago) switched from Trojan-ENZ spermicidal condoms to Trojan Magnums. To my dismay, upon checking, the new condoms are not spermicidal like I thought, and no spermicidal version seems to exist. Does anyone know where I can find similarly sized condoms with spermicide?
    Also, yes, she's been opposed to the pill because she doesn't believe in western medicine. I'm using this opportunity to get us down to planned parenthood, though, something I've been advocating for months.

    Throw some spermicidal lubricant in there and you'll be aiight.

    How can she not believe in western medicine? Like at all? It seems this girl needs a little reality check as well as birth control.

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  • Dance CommanderDance Commander Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    She's Chinese ethnically, but culturally white in all respects except medicine. She doesn't even take advil except for cramps, and even then only a little tiny bit. All other ills are cured by tea.
    I don't know. I don't understand it, really, but I just kind of let it be until now. We're gonna talk about it now, though.

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  • ElinElin Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    The only thing you should be doing is finding a doctor who doesn't let his personal and likely religious views affect your medical care.

    She doesn't affect it in any way. She won't place it but if I wanted it she'd have someone else in her practice implant it. She told me about it in the same way as the rest of my options, she just won't put it in herself. She prefers to use the hormonal IUD, Merena? or some such spelling. Durn drugs and their funny names.

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