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That_GuyI don't wanna be that guyRegistered Userregular
In about 2 hours I will be going in for an interview to work at Speakeasy in downtown Seattle. I think I have everything preped. I have a freshly cleaned suit with a nice tie. I have 2 extra copies of my resume printed on good cotton resume paper. I have my Garmin programed in with the address and directions printed out just in case. I will be picking up an "interview" bottle of water. My hair is nicely styled. I am not going to smoke until after the interview to keep smelling fresh. I have a nice binder for all my paperwork WITH a working pen.
Anything else you all can think of. I am really nervous and don't want to forget anything.
In about 2 hours I will be going in for an interview to work at Speakeasy in downtown Seattle. I think I have everything preped. I have a freshly cleaned suit with a nice tie. I have 2 extra copies of my resume printed on good cotton resume paper. I have my Garmin programed in with the address and directions printed out just in case. I will be picking up an "interview" bottle of water. My hair is nicely styled. I am not going to smoke until after the interview to keep smelling fresh. I have a nice binder for all my paperwork WITH a working pen.
Anything else you all can think of. I am really nervous and don't want to forget anything.
debate the morality of interviews! Go!
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and I wonder about my neighbors even though I don't have them
but they're listening to every word I say
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interviews are immoral, because they allow you to discriminate against people! They can discriminate based on your eighties style, and not on your skill!
JebusUD on
and I wonder about my neighbors even though I don't have them
but they're listening to every word I say
Your post should be in the Help and advice section, in case jebus's post wasn't clear enough.
Oh, and interviews can be fair but also make it easier for potential employers to screen employee's on criteria that is not relevant to the job allowing discrimination.
Forcing employers to hire based on a phone call or resume will make them hire people who aren't suitable, so we would have to make the rules on Firing someone even more lax, which again allows for discrimination since you could fire them for criteria not relevant to the job....
How about a more useful debate, are we happy with the list of stuff potential employers are not allowed to ask?
Try to relax and be friendly. In the end, interviews are just a popularity contest, where the most liked candidates get accepted. If you come off as closemouthed or standoffish, they're going to be disinclined to hire you despite your qualifications.
It's always good to have a few questions to ask. One of my favorites that can be used at any interview, and actually yields useful information, is what a typical day of work would entail.
Ugh, the "worst quality/shortcoming/weakness" question. There are almost no right answers. I hate it when people use the "too much" answer, "oh, my worst shortcoming is that I'm way too helpful!" What a friggin' cop-out. I usually go with telling the truth about something I'm not so good at, but also tell about how I work through it or work around it - I think people appreciate when you answer the question truthfully (with a real weakness) and then you get to show your adaptability.
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That_GuyI don't wanna be that guyRegistered Userregular
edited August 2008
I am fine with interviews. It lets them know who they are hiring before it is too late. My biggest flaw would be I am a over eager to get things done. I also have an obsession with that dude from the Police Academy movies who does the noises.
Try to relax and be friendly. In the end, interviews are just a popularity contest, where the most liked candidates get accepted. If you come off as closemouthed or standoffish, they're going to be disinclined to hire you despite your qualifications.
It's always good to have a few questions to ask. One of my favorites that can be used at any interview, and actually yields useful information, is what a typical day of work would entail.
I was also thinking about asking; "Where could I go to get more info about how the company runs and it's inner workings?"
I think the best answer for that is to describe an actual flaw that you have, and then follow that up with something you do to try and alleviate that flaw. For example, if your problem is that you have trouble meeting deadlines, tell them that you create to-do lists every day to help you manage your time more effectively. You'll get points for having given them a non-bullshit answer, and bonus points for showing that you're into self-improvement.
Edit: I just noticed this is pretty much the exact same advice tsmvengy gave 20 minutes ago. Well played, sir.
When they ask you if you have any questions I suggest you make them think, say by asking either
1)"Do you think it is either cool or clever to name your business after a place where sin and inequity once roamed together, hand in hand?"
or
2) "Teenage pregnancy is the biggest threat that the Pacific Northwest faces in the 21st century, so how much paid leave per week do you allow employees to volunteer to help deliver community based solutions for this terrible problem?"
I'm a-movin' this here to that H-an'-A place o'er yonder.
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That_GuyI don't wanna be that guyRegistered Userregular
edited August 2008
Well, I think the interview went quite well. I think I had a good response for everything they threw at me. It was a 2 part interview. The 1st part was with a tech manager and she asked me questions about my background and told me about the company. The second part was more tech oriented with a couple of the higher up techs. They grilled me about the OSI model, protocols, my knowledge of email and internet apps, and general troubleshooting. I kind of fucked up on the OSI model as I had not really had it memorized for a while, but I think that was more of a "feel me out" type of thing. Speakeasy is a really cool company. They encourage the use of Firefox for starters. Everything about the interview screamed, "this is an awesome company to work for." I was told I would get a callback in the next couple of days to let me know if I got it or not. I for one am keeping my fingers crossed!
Ok so not helpful for you as you had your interview, but I figured i'd post for people lurking.
Ask questions.. lots of them and good questions. Ask what the person who is interviewing you does. Ask what daily life is like. If you are familiar with their tools ask specific questions about it, for example i was interviewing at a place that used QT for its GUI's... I asked if they used version 3 or version 4 as it was a pretty big shift. We then sat for the next half hour talking about the differences and how I had coped with it and whatnot. The interviewer was pretty impressed that i knew so much about details of the toolkits.
A GREAT question to ask, especially because its useful to know, is ask your interviewer what their favorite and least favorite thing about the company is. Its a great way to get an idea of what its actually like to work there. Ive had pretty good responses when I asked this.
Dont be afraid if you dont know the answers... be honest. If they ask you to solve some technical stuff, and you dont know the answer work thru it out loud, and describe how you would approach it. Ive even had luck saying things like "well this solution would work... i KNOW its not the best solution, but it would get the job done"
Oh and be excited about the job.
Thats all ive got for now
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That_GuyI don't wanna be that guyRegistered Userregular
edited September 2008
WOO HOO! I got the job. I had a 3rd interview today over the phone and the officially offered me the position. Thanks for all the help everyone. I start on Monday. I will be able to take the Sounder Train down to Seattle too. It should make for a nice ride.
I'm assuming this it is less offensive to ask a related question here now that you've got your situation wrapped up; it's just a quick curiosity. I was wondering if anyone knows how likely it is that any company would hire an employee without meeting them face to face?
I'm assuming it's not even possible, that's not how I'd run a company, but here's a context: I'm willing to relocate very far, but am interested in a number of studios that span across continents. If it matters, the jobs would be art-related so the employer would have access to my portfolio beforehand to assess my abilities. How does distance-interviewing work? Does it? I've heard of telephone interviews, does anybody use webcams and voice chat these days?
It would become a pain to continually get interest from better and better studios, but have to fly out to each city or country just to spend twenty minutes with the hiring manager. Extra so if I didn't even get the job.
Also I'm not so cocky that I think I'm about to get twenty interviews all across the world, I'm just interested in how this kind of thing goes down for people trying to chase a career wherever it lies.
I'm assuming this it is less offensive to ask a related question here now that you've got your situation wrapped up; it's just a quick curiosity. I was wondering if anyone knows how likely it is that any company would hire an employee without meeting them face to face?
I'm assuming it's not even possible, that's not how I'd run a company, but here's a context: I'm willing to relocate very far, but am interested in a number of studios that span across continents. If it matters, the jobs would be art-related so the employer would have access to my portfolio beforehand to assess my abilities. How does distance-interviewing work? Does it? I've heard of telephone interviews, does anybody use webcams and voice chat these days?
It would become a pain to continually get interest from better and better studios, but have to fly out to each city or country just to spend twenty minutes with the hiring manager. Extra so if I didn't even get the job.
Also I'm not so cocky that I think I'm about to get twenty interviews all across the world, I'm just interested in how this kind of thing goes down for people trying to chase a career wherever it lies.
Hiring without meeting face to face isn't terribly common, but it happens. I had an interview a couple years ago where that was fully the intent - it was a direct hire position for a pretty large corp (I can't for the life of me remember who), the manager was based out of Chicago, and they were hiring nationwide for someone who would do tech work from home. Fully phone interview based.
With my current job, I was hired without ever meeting my actual manager, although people from the local office did meet with me before I was offered the job - just none of them were my boss and I did not report to them in any way. My manager and the team I work for are based out of London, I'm in Richmond, Va. They needed someone local to be able to do work for US based customers, be more easily available for support during hours US based customers are active, etc.
I'm just a co-op student, so this may not apply when going for a permanent position, but I've had friends who have gotten jobs with good companies (like Google, etc.) in the technology world without ever meeting face to face.
I interviewed for a few positions in Tokyo (I'm in NYC) at large financial companies. Basically, most companies generally did a phone interview first to screen out candidates. After a round or two of that, I either (a) went in to the NY office to meet the local team, then after that continued the interview process on the phone with the Tokyo management/team, (b) continued to just talk over the phone, or (c) went to the local office and did a video-conference (least common).
For what it's worth, I was offered the position where I only spoke to the team over the phone, but I didn't take it because something better came up locally at the time/other personal reasons. Now I'm kicking myself because I would really rather be in Tokyo, and the job market sucks balls too bad right now to get a decent job over there .
They sounds like an awesome company to work for. I am so happy they are giving me a shot. I can't wait until Monday. It even looks like I will be able to take the Sounder Train down to work on Monday. The office is only about 13 blocks from the station and I could take a bus if I needed to.
Most places will do 1-2 phone interviews, sometimes more, and then fly you out for an onsite interview. While not common, i DO know people who have gotten hired without being interviewed in person. Most of these have been like... someone who lives in australia or somewhere in asia going for a job in say, Boston. So the flights just for a day of interviews would be unwieldy. Also these people were completely awesome and would be pretty much hired on the spot anyway.
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debate the morality of interviews! Go!
but they're listening to every word I say
but they're listening to every word I say
Oh, and interviews can be fair but also make it easier for potential employers to screen employee's on criteria that is not relevant to the job allowing discrimination.
Forcing employers to hire based on a phone call or resume will make them hire people who aren't suitable, so we would have to make the rules on Firing someone even more lax, which again allows for discrimination since you could fire them for criteria not relevant to the job....
How about a more useful debate, are we happy with the list of stuff potential employers are not allowed to ask?
Be well researched and know what questions they are likely to ask and what your answers will be.
Pausing to think about what your going to say only makes you look unconfident or slow.
It's always good to have a few questions to ask. One of my favorites that can be used at any interview, and actually yields useful information, is what a typical day of work would entail.
I was also thinking about asking; "Where could I go to get more info about how the company runs and it's inner workings?"
http://www.speakeasy.net/
?
I think the best answer for that is to describe an actual flaw that you have, and then follow that up with something you do to try and alleviate that flaw. For example, if your problem is that you have trouble meeting deadlines, tell them that you create to-do lists every day to help you manage your time more effectively. You'll get points for having given them a non-bullshit answer, and bonus points for showing that you're into self-improvement.
Edit: I just noticed this is pretty much the exact same advice tsmvengy gave 20 minutes ago. Well played, sir.
1)"Do you think it is either cool or clever to name your business after a place where sin and inequity once roamed together, hand in hand?"
or
2) "Teenage pregnancy is the biggest threat that the Pacific Northwest faces in the 21st century, so how much paid leave per week do you allow employees to volunteer to help deliver community based solutions for this terrible problem?"
Every company needs a moral guardian
Ask questions.. lots of them and good questions. Ask what the person who is interviewing you does. Ask what daily life is like. If you are familiar with their tools ask specific questions about it, for example i was interviewing at a place that used QT for its GUI's... I asked if they used version 3 or version 4 as it was a pretty big shift. We then sat for the next half hour talking about the differences and how I had coped with it and whatnot. The interviewer was pretty impressed that i knew so much about details of the toolkits.
A GREAT question to ask, especially because its useful to know, is ask your interviewer what their favorite and least favorite thing about the company is. Its a great way to get an idea of what its actually like to work there. Ive had pretty good responses when I asked this.
Dont be afraid if you dont know the answers... be honest. If they ask you to solve some technical stuff, and you dont know the answer work thru it out loud, and describe how you would approach it. Ive even had luck saying things like "well this solution would work... i KNOW its not the best solution, but it would get the job done"
Oh and be excited about the job.
Thats all ive got for now
I'm assuming this it is less offensive to ask a related question here now that you've got your situation wrapped up; it's just a quick curiosity. I was wondering if anyone knows how likely it is that any company would hire an employee without meeting them face to face?
I'm assuming it's not even possible, that's not how I'd run a company, but here's a context: I'm willing to relocate very far, but am interested in a number of studios that span across continents. If it matters, the jobs would be art-related so the employer would have access to my portfolio beforehand to assess my abilities. How does distance-interviewing work? Does it? I've heard of telephone interviews, does anybody use webcams and voice chat these days?
It would become a pain to continually get interest from better and better studios, but have to fly out to each city or country just to spend twenty minutes with the hiring manager. Extra so if I didn't even get the job.
Also I'm not so cocky that I think I'm about to get twenty interviews all across the world, I'm just interested in how this kind of thing goes down for people trying to chase a career wherever it lies.
With my current job, I was hired without ever meeting my actual manager, although people from the local office did meet with me before I was offered the job - just none of them were my boss and I did not report to them in any way. My manager and the team I work for are based out of London, I'm in Richmond, Va. They needed someone local to be able to do work for US based customers, be more easily available for support during hours US based customers are active, etc.
For what it's worth, I was offered the position where I only spoke to the team over the phone, but I didn't take it because something better came up locally at the time/other personal reasons. Now I'm kicking myself because I would really rather be in Tokyo, and the job market sucks balls too bad right now to get a decent job over there .
Hey so 80s guy, just curious what was the job you applied for?
Doing tech support over the phone for Speakeasy. They are a national ISP offering DSL, T1, hosting, etc.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speakeasy_(ISP)
They sounds like an awesome company to work for. I am so happy they are giving me a shot. I can't wait until Monday. It even looks like I will be able to take the Sounder Train down to work on Monday. The office is only about 13 blocks from the station and I could take a bus if I needed to.