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Help me unravel this mystery UPS package! (update: unraveled, but lame!)

whuppinswhuppins Registered User regular
edited September 2008 in Help / Advice Forum
I got a notice that UPS attempted to deliver a package to me today. It's addressed to my wife, using her old name from a previous marriage, which she hasn't used in at least 5 years. The slip says it's from "ABG - Loss Prevention". It was shipped yesterday via Next Day Air and requires a signature for delivery, both of which are obviously usually reserved for important shipments. The problem is, my wife and I are not expecting any packages and we've never heard of this company. A search on Google turns up nothing helpful about it. The tracking info shows it originated in the Virginia Beach, VA area but otherwise offers no information about the sender.

1.) Can anyone figure out what any of this means?

2.) If you're the recipient of a package from UPS and you have the tracking number, shouldn't you be able to at least find out who sent it to you or what the return address is? If yes, how?

Thanks in advance for any and all help. I wouldn't normally get this suspicious but my wife's ex has been a nuisance in the past. He doesn't know her current name so anything that comes to the house under her old name is automatically red-flagged.

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  • Iceman.USAFIceman.USAF Major East CoastRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Honestly, I'd pick up the package and bring it to the police station. Make sure to CALL FIRST and explain what's going on. They'd probably be happy to open it for you and potentially embarrass the shit out of you.

    Keep us posted, I'm interested now!

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  • The Crowing OneThe Crowing One Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Sounds like it contains possessions that were in holding for some time, but I don't have any idea. It could be the contents of an old safety deposit box, or something similar.

    Take it to the police if you're worried.

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  • whuppinswhuppins Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Thanks for the suggestions.

    I'm not worried per se, I'd just like to know more about what "ABG" could mean or what "Loss Prevention" would indicate, or even what the return address was. I have a feeling that if I had this information, I could probably figure out the rest for myself.

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  • CauldCauld Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    whuppins wrote: »
    Thanks for the suggestions.

    I'm not worried per se, I'd just like to know more about what "ABG" could mean or what "Loss Prevention" would indicate, or even what the return address was. I have a feeling that if I had this information, I could probably figure out the rest for myself.

    If you call UPS they should be able to give you all the information they have about the sender, possibly including their phone number.

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  • TaximesTaximes Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Loss Prevention is the department of a company that aims to prevent theft, so I suppose it makes sense that they could have old property to return.

    Whatever you do, make sure you update the thread to tell us what it was. :P

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  • whuppinswhuppins Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Update:

    I called UPS and they're only allowed to disclose the sender's name and state, so no address. In this case, though, they were able to clarify that ABG stood for Avis Budget Group, the company that runs those two rental car brands. We took a vacation to the Virginia Beach area this past February where we rented a car, so it seems like they may be returning an item that we left behind.

    Only two problems with this theory: First, we rented from Thrifty, which isn't part of ABG. Second, I still don't know how they could have ended up with my wife's old name for the package. She changed all her IDs, license, etc. immediately after her divorce, and the car was rented in my name anyway.

    Still, this is pretty strong evidence that it has to do with that rental. We didn't notice anything missing when we got back home, but who knows, maybe it's something along those lines.

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  • lizard eats flieslizard eats flies Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Just a guess, but could it be that someone may have the same name as your wife's old name, and when they looked up the name to try to send that persons stuff back, they sent it to your wife instead?

    Seems pretty coincidental but I guess it could be plausible

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  • mooshoeporkmooshoepork Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Make sure you post back with what it was :P

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  • DaenrisDaenris Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    whuppins wrote: »
    Update:

    I called UPS and they're only allowed to disclose the sender's name and state, so no address. In this case, though, they were able to clarify that ABG stood for Avis Budget Group, the company that runs those two rental car brands. We took a vacation to the Virginia Beach area this past February where we rented a car, so it seems like they may be returning an item that we left behind.

    Only two problems with this theory: First, we rented from Thrifty, which isn't part of ABG. Second, I still don't know how they could have ended up with my wife's old name for the package. She changed all her IDs, license, etc. immediately after her divorce, and the car was rented in my name anyway.

    Still, this is pretty strong evidence that it has to do with that rental. We didn't notice anything missing when we got back home, but who knows, maybe it's something along those lines.

    Well, if it's been a long time since she's used that name, and you didn't rent from Avis in February, my assumption would be that it's from longer ago. Does your wife ever recall having rented a car while she was using that name?

    At the rate that some companies move, this could easily be an item from years ago.

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  • EverywhereasignEverywhereasign Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    So maybe she left something in a car years back and somehow now they got around to figuring out who it belonged to and returned it...

    Or perhaps you rode in someone else's rental car and dropped something that had her old name on it, they found her, and are returning it.

    Either way, I'm really interested in what it is. This isn't PA's first thread on strange packages, they are usually very anticlimactic, fingers crossed this time. :)

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  • wasted pixelswasted pixels Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    How *big* is the package?

    Taximes is partially right, loss prevention is usually associated with financial losses due to fraud, shoplifting, embezzlement, and other crimes that hurt a company. They don't typically function as a "lost and found", though, they also don't typically hold onto things for years before returning them (which would be the case if they're using her old last name), and they CERTAINLY don't have any incentive to suddenly overnight you something your lady misplaced.

    If it's the right size to be a stack of documents, open it soon, because this could be part of some sort of legal action against involving your wife.

    (Hopefully it'll just be a misplaced comb or sock, though!)

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  • DemosthornDemosthorn Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I'm so flipping curious.

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  • DalbozDalboz Resident Puppy Eater Right behind you...Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    It could also be some sort of promotional item. A few years ago, I got a UPS slip on my door and had no idea what it was for because I wasn't expecting anything or recognize the sender. When I finally got the package, it turned out to be stuffed Serta sheep doll (you know the counting sheep from the Serta commercials) that was sent to me as a promotional item because I had just purchased a new bed.

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  • 1ddqd1ddqd Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Pics or it didn't happen.

    (Also, if it's Loss PREVENTION then they're either trying to prevent a loss or supplementing one on behalf of her)

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  • rfaliasrfalias Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I got a mysterious attempt to deliver notice too from USPS.
    It's a certified letter, and I can't make out who it's from on the slip.

    I hate mysterious letters!

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  • BasarBasar IstanbulRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    cmon give us an update. you got me curious hitting f5 every 2 seconds.

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  • 1ddqd1ddqd Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    rfalias wrote: »
    I got a mysterious attempt to deliver notice too from USPS.
    It's a certified letter, and I can't make out who it's from on the slip.

    I hate mysterious letters!

    Could be a summons?

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  • rfaliasrfalias Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Noooooo...
    Guess I better get it soon eh?
    How long do they keep stuff at the PO?

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  • DiscoZombieDiscoZombie Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    it's a well-known fact that every mysterious package contains a cartoonish time bomb with sticks of dynamite and a ticking analog clock that will coincidentally have its alarm go off the minute you open it.

    Also, rfalias' certified letter is filled with revealing blackmail pictures.

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  • rfaliasrfalias Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    it's a well-known fact that every mysterious package contains a cartoonish time bomb with sticks of dynamite and a ticking analog clock that will coincidentally have its alarm go off the minute you open it.

    Also, rfalias' certified letter is filled with revealing blackmail pictures.

    I suppose it can wait huh?
    If the PO is open today I'll go get it and reveal its contents later!

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  • illigillig Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Haha, the asshole in me wants to reply:

    "So make a thread about it... oh wait, you already did. Good job champ!" with an appropriate emoticon.

    But these unexpected packages really get me excited for some reason.

    A few months ago, I got an a FedEx final notice missed delivery sticker saying a package FROM MY EMPLOYER was about to be returned to sender. I didn't get any of the earlier notices, and no one at work knew what this was about... so I took a half sick day to wait for the delivery guy.. this turned into a "i'm-kinda-off-but-i'll-be-checking-my-email" day, since the delivery guy didn't show until around 5PM.

    And the package? it was a tiny lapel pin. My company was rebranding, and sending all employees a lapel pin :lol:

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  • The Crowing OneThe Crowing One Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Oh, just open it already!

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  • whuppinswhuppins Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Uhhhhh.... sorry to disappoint you guys clamoring for updates, but you'll have to wait a few days. I guess I didn't make it clear enough in the OP, but it was a delivery attempt. I don't have the package in my possession and won't until they try to deliver again on Tuesday.

    I'm pretty certain it'll be a total letdown, though. Don't anybody get their hopes up. I'll update (with dramatic pics, even if it's totally lame, which it will be) on Tues.

    @rfalias: The only unexpected certified letter I've received was shortly after I moved from an apartment, the previous place sent my deposit check via certified mail.

    @Daenris: We had talked about what you said; she did rent a car under that name many years ago but she doesn't remember which company it was from and it was in Gainesville, FL. The fact that this thing is coming from the place we rented from earlier this year seems like more than a coincidence to me. I dunno, maybe the Thrifty operator sold that car to Avis since then?

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  • DalbozDalboz Resident Puppy Eater Right behind you...Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    You know that the delivery attempt ticket should have a tracking number on it that you can use on the UPS website to find out some details about the package (package weight included, I think) as well as the path it's taken from the sender to get to you. You can also use the website with that tracking number to change any delivery options.

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  • locopostallocopostal Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Dalboz wrote: »
    You know that the delivery attempt ticket should have a tracking number on it that you can use on the UPS website to find out some details about the package (package weight included, I think) as well as the path it's taken from the sender to get to you. You can also use the website with that tracking number to change any delivery options.

    uh, no you can't. only the shipper is able to change whether or not a package requires a signature (be it in person or indirect(meaning to a neighbor or leaving a signed door tag)). you can always request that UPS contact the shipper regarding that, but it usually takes a day or two to get that confirmation from the shipper. In general, UPS will make three delivery attempts, and then the package will be held at the station for ten business days. they *should* attempt to contact you before the package is returned to sender. if you do go to pick it up, make sure you bring ID. as you or the wife don't have ID with the old name on it, something with your current address should suffice.

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  • YodaTunaYodaTuna Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    We got a mysterious package a few weeks ago. My gf has a subscription to Play Magazine and they some how bumped her out of the system and then just sent us all the magazines we never got in one box.

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  • DalbozDalboz Resident Puppy Eater Right behind you...Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    locopostal wrote: »
    Dalboz wrote: »
    You know that the delivery attempt ticket should have a tracking number on it that you can use on the UPS website to find out some details about the package (package weight included, I think) as well as the path it's taken from the sender to get to you. You can also use the website with that tracking number to change any delivery options.

    uh, no you can't. only the shipper is able to change whether or not a package requires a signature (be it in person or indirect(meaning to a neighbor or leaving a signed door tag)). you can always request that UPS contact the shipper regarding that, but it usually takes a day or two to get that confirmation from the shipper. In general, UPS will make three delivery attempts, and then the package will be held at the station for ten business days. they *should* attempt to contact you before the package is returned to sender. if you do go to pick it up, make sure you bring ID. as you or the wife don't have ID with the old name on it, something with your current address should suffice.

    No, you can change certain delivery option, like specifying a specific day to deliver it, or redirecting it to another address. I've done it a few times before. Requiring a signature can't be changed, although fairly often you can sign the slip in a specified spot and leave it on the door. They usually accept that for a signature, although if they will accept it it should marked as such on the slip.

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  • TaximesTaximes Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Tuesday? Man, way to ruin my labor day weekend with this suspense. :P

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  • BitstreamBitstream Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Hmm, a quick internet search seems to indicate Avis does big loss-prevention business, possibly subbed out to other companies as well. The only "civilian" account I've found of anyone dealing with AGB LP is this guy's weirdly biographical sports column, which isn't encouraging:
    Then I get this sobering letter from AVIS.

    "According to our records, this vehicle has not been returned. You are thereby directed to return our vehicle immediately to the PORTLAND, OR AVIS location. Please note that AVIS has the right to demand return of any vehicle at any time pursuant to the Agreement.''

    There was some legalese, then this gentle cattle prod ... "nothing that has transpired between you and AVIS to date entitles you to ignore this letter and maintain possession. In addition, AVIS is required by law to notify you that failure to return the vehicle listed above may subject you to prosecution.''

    So, uh, they may have misplaced your rental car for you. I assume this kind of thing would be handled through Certified Mail, but who knows.

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  • TaximesTaximes Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Sir, it is Tuesday.

    What's in the box?!

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  • KhaczorKhaczor Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I must be satisfied on what is in the box even if you lie.

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  • Iceman.USAFIceman.USAF Major East CoastRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Khaczor wrote: »
    I must be satisfied on what is in the box even if you lie.

    Yeah, really man. End the suspense. It has gone on long enough. There must be an answer. Even if that answer is something like toothpaste.

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  • DemosthornDemosthorn Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Maybe whatever was in the box has killed him.... Should we call somebody? I'm worried.

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  • TL DRTL DR Not at all confident in his reflexive opinions of thingsRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Purge the thread from the forumspace.

    Before they come for us.

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  • TaximesTaximes Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    This build-up is going to make it extra disappointing if the thing in the box was lame.

    But also, extra horrifying if the OP never comes back. D:

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  • KatoKato Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Yes...we MUST know what was in the box!!!

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    Signature??
  • The Crowing OneThe Crowing One Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I'm becoming more and more convinced that the box contains an alternate universe, like Universe A, or something.

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  • DeadfallDeadfall I don't think you realize just how rich he is. In fact, I should put on a monocle.Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I'm becoming more and more convinced that the box contains an alternate universe, like Universe A, or something.

    Or the Mongooses! That's a cool team name. The Fighting Mongooses.

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  • DalbozDalboz Resident Puppy Eater Right behind you...Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    It was a phone, and as soon as he opened the package it rang. The call was from a man named Morpheus and he told him to take the red pill, which is why we haven't heard from him since. That NyQuil gelcap probably knocked him out.

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  • Farout FoolioFarout Foolio Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    It's been two days.
    I think...he might be dead. ;-;

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