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6 Month Review and I'm in a new position already

1ddqd1ddqd Registered User regular
edited September 2008 in Help / Advice Forum
Background: I quit a job I had at an electricity broker in January and joined a sub-prime mortgage company as a collector for income while I looked for another job. Well, after about 3 months in Pre 30 Day Collections, I was selected to take my friend's (we'll call him B) spot. Currently, B is doing the same job as my boss, but for our sales team. This means an increase in pay and responsibility.

So. When I was approached, my boss (we'll call him F) had all the candidates do a test. I aced it in 20 minutes and (even though he said we could) I didn't need to call for help. I got the position and finished the week as collections. Thank god.

Now, my position is called "Davox Support Technician" and I'm the only one in my department (besides my boss). My work is much different and can be intensive, but I no longer have metrics on which I am tracked. I don't have to worry about making 300+ calls a day and so many "promises to pay" but I have much more accountability. See, I make the "campaigns" that every collector uses to call people. So if I screw up, the company could lose out on a lot of money.

Also, now I do reporting based off the dialer, as well as other random reports (ranking, real-time reports, etc). Before I came into the position, Brandon spent his ENTIRE day doing reports and updating the systems (which, I have to say, are antiquated. Screenshots available to those interested). I've streamlined everything by redesigning the Excel and Crystal reports he used. It takes me less than half the time, which leaves me in an awkward place.

My review is forthcoming and I want to ask for a raise. Considering the extra amount of work, I feel I deserve to be compensated above and beyond what a Pre 30 day collector makes - $30,000 a year. I have full benefits, my hours areeither 5am-2pm or 8am-5pm, the worst being that I work every other weekend. My boss is great and even tries to give me overtime.

TLDR: I do a lot more work than my previous position (which was originally temporary) and want to ask for more money when my review comes up. I'd settle for overtime. How do I go about this?

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  • Jimmy KingJimmy King Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    As uncomfortable as it is for many people, just come out and say it. Not rudely or anything, be professional about it. Just tell your boss straight up "I would like to discuss my current pay. My pay rate I am currently at is for a lower pay rate, lower responsibility position than I am now in. I do a large amount of work, have much more responsibility, and have made improvements to the efficiency with which this job can be done in my time in this position. I feel I deserve a raise."

    Obviously, exact wording and the like will depend on you, your boss, your relationship with your boss, etc. I just did this recently myself, and I assure you, I was very uncomfortable as I'm not big on making demands on other people, and that's what asking for a raise feels like to me no matter how much I know I deserve it. In many companies, asking is the only way you're getting a raise. If you're willing to keep doing the job at the same pay, then why pay you more? Your boss is aware of this. Your boss is also asking his boss for a raise when appropriate. He's not going to fire you or punish you for it. If it is, you don't want to stick around there anyway.

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  • 1ddqd1ddqd Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Well, it's not like I'm uncomfortable with it, just with figuring out what to ask for. The 30 Day reps I work with do pretty much nothing more than Pre 30s, but are eligible for bonuses (bonii). West Coast collectors get 20% more (because they're dealing with hippies, I guess), so I figure I'm entitled to at least that. Plus, with the improvements I've made, this position is now more efficient. The VPs ask me to do things and sometimes watch me do it - I've heard them say things like "Man you're fast" or "Never thought you'd have this much work, didja?" Things like that make me know the work is appreciated but as it is...

    ...I don't have a job description. So, I dunno if $35k is too much to ask, but that's at the very BOTTOM of what I feel is adequate for my position's responsibilities.

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  • khainkhain Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Do you know how much B made?

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  • 1ddqd1ddqd Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Well, I could ask him, we're pretty good friends (I loaned him my Fujifilm Digital Camera and he lost it - $99, not too mad about it). I'm sure it's a taboo thing here at work - like everything - but I haven't asked yet. Good point, I'll ask him tomorrow.

    Oh, by the way. Mortgage companies (at least, this one) get really busy EOM. So schmucks like ME come in on LABOR DAY WEEKEND at 5AM to set up dialer campaigns.

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  • see317see317 Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I'd ask B, privately, not at work or anywhere near work, what B made while doing that job.
    Use that to base your request on. I'd recomend against requesting the exact same amount (depending on how strong the taboo is) as that would make it pretty clear you where talking pay with B. I don't know if that would come back to bite you or not, but it could.

    As for working labor day... I come in to work at 9pm tonight and don't get off until 8am tomorrow morning.
    We should start a club.

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  • SerpentSerpent Sometimes Vancouver, BC, sometimes Brisbane, QLDRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Don't ask how much B made in that job.

    Ask B how much he thinks YOU should make in that job.

    subtly different -- and can get different answers, too.

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  • Shark_MegaByteShark_MegaByte Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    1ddqd wrote: »
    ...I don't have a job description.

    This is another thing to ask the boss for. If they don't have one written yet, they need to write one (if there is one written, it may need to be updated since you've made things more efficient), because not having one when there's a disagreement about your duties can be a huge pain for everyone.

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  • gilraingilrain Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Serpent wrote: »
    Don't ask how much B made in that job.

    Ask B how much he thinks YOU should make in that job.

    subtly different -- and can get different answers, too.
    I agree, even amongst friends, asking about pay rates/salary is pretty off-limits.

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