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Guitar Praise: Solid Rock - Thanks for your support

Vake XeaconsVake Xeacons Registered User regular
edited August 2008 in Debate and/or Discourse
With all the controversy against games, many anti-gaming groups have claimed "divine providence" to justify their stance. Ergo, many gamers have voiced their views against religion in general. It's depressing discussing religious views in a gamer forum because of "Christian" groups who are obviously full of bull.

Also, there have been a horrible trend in games with "religious" themes. Usually, that forms to "non-violent" violence: basic combative gameplay with non-lethal methods. Left Behind, which had nothing in common with the best-selling book of the same name, used "the power of prayer" to kill or convert non-believers (which included Catholics and Jews). Real Christians, such as myself, have to take the heat for it.

While I feel that certain games that do receive a lot of controversy (e.g. Manhunt) are tasteless, I believe in complete in total freedom of distribution. The First Amendment covers both Freedom of Religion AND Speech & Press. If we demand our freedom, we demand it for everyone else as well.

That's why I'm totally excited about Guitar Praise. Music simulation is the PERFECT genre for Christian games. With any luck, franchises like Guitar Hero, Rock Band, and Karaoke Revolution will pick up the genre in the future. Whether or not you agree with Christianity, it's nice to know we're not complete outcasts, which it certainly feels like nowadays. Thanks, Tycho. Thanks, gamers.

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Video games are an interactive form of entertainment, which make them more difficult to make for a Christian audience than passive forms of entertainment such as music and film. You can't let the player do anything that would be "un-Christian" so for most genres it would make the game feel very forced and limited.

    The music rhythm genre doesn't have this restriction, obviously, and you can make it appeal to a Christian audience just by selecting the music. The success of this game should be the same criteria that is used for other, similar games - the quality of music selection and the quality of the note charts.

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  • WerdnaWerdna Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Have you heard christian rock? And you would simulate it?

    Granted Guitar Hero has terrible music as well. I didn't know anyone in D&D was either. Or maybe you think guitar praise would be good in general for others since its PERFECT.

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  • mcdermottmcdermott Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Have you heard christian rock? And you would simulate it?

    Hey, for some kids it's all their parents will allow them to listen to. It's kind of cool that they might get to have some of the Guitar Hero-esque fun as well. It'd actually be nice of Harmonix or Red Octane would release a Christian version...milk the market, and at the same time bring some of the fun to those that don't necessarily dig the "OMG METAL" scene.

    I mean, 90% of the work is done as far as the engine goes. Just create a few different models for the characters, and notechart some bad Christian rock.

    Maybe even a little of the good stuff.

    Looking at Guitar Praise, though, I was sorely disappointed by the lack of MxPx...one of the few Christian rock bands that has managed to stand on their own in the mainstream. Maybe this made them not "Christian enough" for the producers, combined with them playing bands with and for the heathens.

    And in a couple short sentences, we've turned this back around to why I don't like the entire Christian music scene.

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    mcdermott wrote: »
    Looking at Guitar Praise, though, I was sorely disappointed by the lack of MxPx...one of the few Christian rock bands that has managed to stand on their own in the mainstream. Maybe this made them not "Christian enough" for the producers, combined with them playing bands with and for the heathens.

    And in a couple short sentences, we've turned this back around to why I don't like the entire Christian music scene.

    That seems to be the problem with Christian entertainment in general. I suppose it's comparable to the hipster indie music scene. If something becomes too mainstream, all of a sudden it's no good any more.

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  • WerdnaWerdna Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    mcdermott wrote: »
    Have you heard christian rock? And you would simulate it?

    Hey, for some kids it's all their parents will allow them to listen to. It's kind of cool that they might get to have some of the Guitar Hero-esque fun as well. It'd actually be nice of Harmonix or Red Octane would release a Christian version...milk the market, and at the same time bring some of the fun to those that don't necessarily dig the "OMG METAL" scene.

    I mean, 90% of the work is done as far as the engine goes. Just create a few different models for the characters, and notechart some bad Christian rock.

    Maybe even a little of the good stuff.

    Looking at Guitar Praise, though, I was sorely disappointed by the lack of MxPx...one of the few Christian rock bands that has managed to stand on their own in the mainstream. Maybe this made them not "Christian enough" for the producers, combined with them playing bands with and for the heathens.

    And in a couple short sentences, we've turned this back around to why I don't like the entire Christian music scene.

    At first I simply took it as good for the group as a whole. Which I would agree that it's nice when a particular demographic is able to take part of something from the masses especially when it is designed to fit into a specific set of values. Inclusivity. It's nice.

    But then, I couldn't help but wonder that someone online actually listens to the christian rock scene, which unfortunately is both vapid and pretentious. Sorry. I used to be a fellow listener to some christian music, even after I decided against continuing my faith in Jesus. Sure my aesthetic judgement cannot be an empirical one, but surely you must admit that nearly 99% of the christian music scene is pretty poor.

    Anyway, kudos. Didn't mean to change the subject. Couldn't help but comment on my own the glaring thoughts surrounding christian music.

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  • mcdermottmcdermott Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I'll point out that it's possible that the lack of MxPx isn't due to their mainstream success, it's just that I've seen that attitude far too often with bands that break out into the mainstream among hardcore Christian music listeners. Like, by playing a festival show with all those "evil" bands they've become less Christian or something.

    If that's not the reason, then I'd suggest that their choice of songs simply sucks. Three Skillet songs and no MxPx? Take a cue from Guitar Hero (at least the first three installments)...diversity is a good thing. The more artists you can include, the better.

    Alternately, if for whatever reason it was impossible to cut a deal with MxPx's record label (this is certainly a possibility), then that sucks and so do they. I just can't see Tooth and Nail, at least, being like that. I forget which "major" label they were on for a while.
    But then, I couldn't help but wonder that someone online actually listens to the christian rock scene, which unfortunately is both vapid and pretentious. Sorry. I used to be a fellow listener to some christian music, even after I decided against continuing my faith in Jesus. Sure my aesthetic judgement cannot be an empirical one, but surely you must admit that nearly 99% of the christian music scene is pretty poor.

    Oh, I'd say your judgement is spot-on. 90%+ of Christian would not be listened to by anybody but blood relatives and high school friends if it wasn't Christian. There is some seriously poor quality going on in that scene. I'd wager that if I listened to all the tracks on Guitar Praise, a significant number would qualify.

    Still, there are a handful of Christian artists I still listen to, because they had actual talent as well. After a while I just couldn't choke down the rest. If I wanted to listen to music without the "worldly" messages, I'd just listen to classical or something instead.

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