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Anxiety relief...?

Nakatomi2010Nakatomi2010 Registered User regular
edited September 2008 in Help / Advice Forum
So, my wife wants me to go see a head doctor for some anxiety issues she believes that I have, occasional panic attacks and some such, felt like I was drowning the other night after inhaling some water while I was taking a bath... I was fine immeadiatly after the incident, however as time progressed I began to feel like I was drowning, and as such she claimed panic attack and tried to calm me back down.... She's also under the impression that my chest pains are related to anxiety proplems...

So, I was wondering, are there any non-prescription things that can help to reduce the likely hood of these types of things occuring...? I've been to bath & body works and got this nifty stress relief bath aroema therapy stuff which has relaxed me a bit once, and another "flavor" which is supposed to assist in sleeping, which my wife has told me to only use on the weekends as it made me smell so good it turned her on, and she doesn't want the girls at work smelling it...


So, non-prescription anxiety solutions? Thoughts?

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  • Drew_9999Drew_9999 Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Are you going to the doctor or not?

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  • YourFatAuntSusanYourFatAuntSusan Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I don't know if i'm allowed to suggest this but in all seriousness, marijuana. Don't mix it with prescribed drugs, don't mix it with alcohol. Don't drive or do anything that requires dexterity.

    Just have some when you're home for the night, kick back and relax. It will help your anxiety.

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  • YourFatAuntSusanYourFatAuntSusan Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    wow, doublepost :(

    delete me.

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  • The Crowing OneThe Crowing One Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Over time, and away from water, you felt as if you're drowning?

    Go see a doctor, he'll be able to make better and more accurate recommendations than any of us ever could.

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  • Drew_9999Drew_9999 Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I don't know if i'm allowed to suggest this but in all seriousness, marijuana. Don't mix it with prescribed drugs, don't mix it with alcohol. Don't drive or do anything that requires dexterity.

    Just have some when you're home for the night, kick back and relax. It will help your anxiety.
    This is such a bad idea on so many levels.

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  • YourFatAuntSusanYourFatAuntSusan Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Drew_9999 wrote: »
    I don't know if i'm allowed to suggest this but in all seriousness, marijuana. Don't mix it with prescribed drugs, don't mix it with alcohol. Don't drive or do anything that requires dexterity.

    Just have some when you're home for the night, kick back and relax. It will help your anxiety.
    This is such a bad idea on so many levels.

    Why? Because TV says so?

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  • SlitzSlitz Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Marijuana won't work for everyone and with my personal experiences it magnifies the anxiety on the come down.

    If you want to try other things before a doctor I would recommend exercise. I used to be an anxious wreck, but after about a week and a half of strict exercise I felt worlds better. Throwing in some healthy food choices will supplement the exercise.

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  • IncenjucarIncenjucar VChatter Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Why? Because TV says so?

    Because

    1) Some people do not react well to pot on various levels

    2) Doing illegal things can VASTLY increase your anxiety level.

    3) Doing illegal things attaches you to criminals, some of which may do worse things than smuggle plants.

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  • Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    self-medicating is bad mmkay

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  • Nakatomi2010Nakatomi2010 Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Drew_9999 wrote: »
    I don't know if i'm allowed to suggest this but in all seriousness, marijuana. Don't mix it with prescribed drugs, don't mix it with alcohol. Don't drive or do anything that requires dexterity.

    Just have some when you're home for the night, kick back and relax. It will help your anxiety.
    This is such a bad idea on so many levels.

    Why? Because TV says so?

    Yeah, I have to agree ere, this is a bad idea... Aside from being illegal Marijuana will, over time, kill your sperm, create holes in your brain, potentially make you have an even worse anxiety attack depending on how you react to it, and it is quite illegal......


    No, I'm not seeing a doctor for it, I work retail and don't really have the time, or the decent health care to have a head doctor... I'm just looking for something that'd have the ability to calm me down and see whether or not I ought to based on the results, or something along those lines....


    Part of what made me feel like I was drowning though was, according to my wife, part of what made me freak out last year, that it to say I read long ago about dry drowning, that it to say someone who drowns with very little un intentional water intake that people don't realize is going to affect them unti they're dead, kinda going to sleep and not waking up... What made me freak out last year was apparently my eading about Caffeine being lethal at 400mg, and me panicking about it.... Among other things over time... More frustrating for me though is her "Oh, you're just having another attack" attitude, I understand it may be non life threatning, but it sure as hell feels like it to me...

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  • Drew_9999Drew_9999 Registered User regular
    edited September 2008

    Why? Because TV says so?
    Give me a fucking break, dude. It's obvious that the OP has anxiety issues and should be seriously considering seeing a doctor. Going through the trouble of buying, keeping and using weed is just giving him something else to worry about. Additionally, it's fucking bad for you.

    For the record, I think it should be legal, and not just for medical use. But that doesn't mean it's a substitute for seeing a doctor about an illness.

    Nakatomi, panic attacks like you seem to be having are relatively common things that people see doctors for all time. I know someone who has symptoms similar to yours. If you panic because you choked a bit on some water, or because you find out that enormous amounts of caffeine might kill you, IMO you need to see someone about your anxiety.

    Though your wife might not handle it the best, she's probably frustrated that you obviously have a problem that you are unwilling to solve. Seriously, man, just go to the doctor. It's won't be a big deal. They won't have you all drugged up and loopy all day.

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  • OremLKOremLK Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Marijuana is indeed a bad idea. It can cause anxiety and other problems. While I have no problem with legalizing the drug, this is not the place for that discussion and it's simply a bad suggestion in this case.

    Go to the doctor. My wife did (for obsessive anxiety problems) and mentioned Prozac, which the doctor prescribed for her. It helped her immensely.

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  • The Crowing OneThe Crowing One Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Drew_9999 wrote: »
    Seriously, man, just go to the doctor. It's won't be a big deal. They won't have you all drugged up and loopy all day.

    I think this sums it up best.

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  • stigweardstigweard Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Drew_9999 wrote: »
    I don't know if i'm allowed to suggest this but in all seriousness, marijuana. Don't mix it with prescribed drugs, don't mix it with alcohol. Don't drive or do anything that requires dexterity.

    Just have some when you're home for the night, kick back and relax. It will help your anxiety.
    This is such a bad idea on so many levels.

    Why? Because TV says so?

    Yeah, I have to agree ere, this is a bad idea... Aside from being illegal Marijuana will, over time, kill your sperm, create holes in your brain, potentially make you have an even worse anxiety attack depending on how you react to it, and it is quite illegal......


    No, I'm not seeing a doctor for it, I work retail and don't really have the time, or the decent health care to have a head doctor... I'm just looking for something that'd have the ability to calm me down and see whether or not I ought to based on the results, or something along those lines....


    Part of what made me feel like I was drowning though was, according to my wife, part of what made me freak out last year, that it to say I read long ago about dry drowning, that it to say someone who drowns with very little un intentional water intake that people don't realize is going to affect them unti they're dead, kinda going to sleep and not waking up... What made me freak out last year was apparently my eading about Caffeine being lethal at 400mg, and me panicking about it.... Among other things over time... More frustrating for me though is her "Oh, you're just having another attack" attitude, I understand it may be non life threatning, but it sure as hell feels like it to me...

    It sounds more like a fear of death with a dash of hypochondria that spurs the attacks. It takes roughly ~150mg/kg of caffeine (or 10 to 12 grams) to kill a man. 400mg is less than you'd find in one large coffee from Starbucks. Instead of thinking rationally on the chances of these things really happening, you take them at face value and worry about them. If you can't see a psychiatrist about it (which I'd recommend), you will need to find the true root cause of what brings up the attacks on your own and deal with it. If you go to a regular doctor, they are likely to give you Ativan or Paxil and treat the symptoms but, once you run out of meds you will be right back to square one.

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  • TreelootTreeloot Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I don't know if i'm allowed to suggest this but in all seriousness, marijuana. Don't mix it with prescribed drugs, don't mix it with alcohol. Don't drive or do anything that requires dexterity.

    Just have some when you're home for the night, kick back and relax. It will help your anxiety.

    I had one of the worst panic attacks of my life after smoking weed.
    She's also under the impression that my chest pains are related to anxiety proplems...

    I had quite a few problems with chest pain before I started taking anxiety medication. I still have chest pain every now and then, but I'm able to think about it more rationally now and realize that it's just something like muscle tightness rather than anything dangerous.

    Go to a doctor and see if there are any free counseling services in your area. Natural solutions like aroma therapy probably aren't going to help much.

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  • ihmmyihmmy Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I'm currently on paxil for anxiety attacks, because they were so bad that my non-medication solutions weren't working.

    But until then, things that worked on my more moderate attacks included yoga (rodney yee's yoga tapes, specifically), deep breathing, distracting myself with something (reading, singing, talking to someone about something unrelated, etc. when it starts getting tight in my chest), sleeping (usually, until I started waking up with panic attacks still, ugh), and these herbal sleeping pills with valerian - just one mellows you out for about an hour, doesn't knock you out all night or anything.

    I'd also had some moderate success taking st. john's wort, but that you absolutely cannot mix with ssri's (like paxil) and it apparently can reduce the effectiveness of the pill (which, obviously not a concern for you, but was for me)

    Eventually they got bad enough that, well, that stuff wasn't working anymore and now I'm on a really low dose (10mg) of paxil to manage my anxiety. Works for me. You could also talk to your doctor about beta blockers (like propranolol), which were something I tried before resorting to paxil - it is prescription, but you take one or two when you feel the attack coming on and it helps mellow you out. Low doses of beta blockers (like you'd be given for anxiety) often help people with things like stage fright, big speeches for classes, etc.... not addictive, not something you have to take every day, etc. They just weren't strong/intense enough to help me control the stupid panic attacks :( otherwise they woulda been perfect for me

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  • CorvusCorvus . VancouverRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    So, non-prescription anxiety solutions? Thoughts?

    Talk-therapy. Which your doctor can help you get hooked up with. Just go to the damn doctor and find out what your options are.

    Hell you're having chest pains? You better be going to doctor, anxiety aside. You won't do your family any favours if you drop dead from a heart attack that could have been avoided.

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  • Nakatomi2010Nakatomi2010 Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Corvus wrote: »
    So, non-prescription anxiety solutions? Thoughts?

    Talk-therapy. Which your doctor can help you get hooked up with. Just go to the damn doctor and find out what your options are.

    Hell you're having chest pains? You better be going to doctor, anxiety aside. You won't do your family any favours if you drop dead from a heart attack that could have been avoided.

    I've done the doctor thing when this all started happening, they ruled out heart problems, and initially diagnosed me with GERD, but then after an Endoscopy they pretty much said it was all in my head and I need to see a head doctor... So the urgency isn't that critical for me, I was just hoping that there'd be something I can do/take which would make it less fierce until such a time as I can find time to go to a head doctor...

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  • EdilithEdilith Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    As someone who suffers from anxiety and panic attacks on occasion, I really can't say enough that you can take control. If you feel yourself getting overwhelmed or panicky, just sit down (somewhere quiet if possible), and breathe slowly and deeply. Just doing this and overcoming thoughts of "I'm going to drown/die/lose control/etc." with "I have been through this before, I will be fine in a few minutes, I have control". Just simple things like this can make a big difference. Along the same lines, if you start fretting over caffeine overdose/dry drowning and other things, try to think logical thoughts and dismiss the panic. I recently purchased Mind Over Mood and during the first few chapters realised just how linked behaviours/thoughts have an influence on each other. You should really check it out if you have the bucks spare.

    Your chest pains may well be linked to your anxiety as your body is under a lot of stress, but only a doctor can really diagnose this.

    I can also understand your feelings on your wife's reaction of "Oh, just another panic attack" and just how traumatic panic attacks feel; have you told her this? It can be very difficult and stressful for others to know how to react and best help you, especially if you don't let people know how it feels for you. During the first panic attack my parents witnessed, my father went to hug me and my mother started yelling at me to calm down and for my father to 'stop mollycoddling' me :lol: Maybe you could talk with your wife and go through a short list of things to do if you're panicking (sit you down, reassure you it will pass, have a paper bag on hand for the hyperventilating, etc.).

    Hope that helps at all. If you want a chat or have any questions just send me a PM.

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