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Hey guys, I was wondering if anyone knew of some good software for defraging Windows Vista. The defrag that it comes with doesn't seem to work very well, and I've seen it suggested before that I should try a third-party tool. Any suggestions?
Auslogics is pretty much the best one that's free. If you don't mind paying there are even programs that defrag in real time and at boot; Pefect Disk 2008 and the best one Disk Keeper.
ya I'm going to have to agree with dark shroud, disk keeper is the best. written by the guys who wrote windows defragment tool, but it does a much better job, it analyzes the drive before and after defragmentation, it can do multiple drives simultaneously, scheduling. it's a pretty fantastic tool.. also it's crazy fast.
I think Defraggler is kinda nice because you can pick and choose which fragmented files you wanna defrag. Although, if you're kinda low on space, it won't defrag certain files even if you select only that one file to defrag. =\
I usually only lurk, but I feel I need to chime in here.
Diskeeper is an awesome program in that you never really need to run a defrag, it has a small process that always is watching for new/modified files and defrags them on the fly when the system is idle (read: won't slow down your games). It does pretty much all you need. The defrag included with Windows is actually a very stripped down version of diskeeper that MS licenses from them.
BUT...good god. I gave up on them. I use a unique email address for every registration or product I buy. So I *know* what companies do with my email address. Diskeeper has not sold my info to anyone, I never get any third party spam on that address, ever. However, diskeeper themselves spam me with 5-10 marketing messages for their own products per week...even the same product I already own. I tried numerous times to get it fixed, and they've lied every time in saying they'll fix it. Needless to say, there's a filter that goes straight to trash for them now. Great product, love it, but no thanks. When I upgraded to 64 bit, I never bothered with it because of the complete disrespect for my privacy.
So, diskeeper = good. What they do with your email = bad. If you buy the product, make sure to use a disposable address, or you will be sorry.
You know, Maximum PC did a test recently. They found that out of 8 contenders, none made any worthwhile difference in boot/shutdown times - you're just as good going with the stock Windows defragger. I believe it was June 2008 issue, maaaaybe July. Any ways, convinced me $60 is $60 too much for defragmenting programs, no matter how many ways you can sort your sectors!
You know, Maximum PC did a test recently. They found that out of 8 contenders, none made any worthwhile difference in boot/shutdown times - you're just as good going with the stock Windows defragger. I believe it was June 2008 issue, maaaaybe July. Any ways, convinced me $60 is $60 too much for defragmenting programs, no matter how many ways you can sort your sectors!
Theres more the a defrag then just windows load times. I.E. increased lifetime of your hard drive.
Hey guys, I was wondering if anyone knew of some good software for defraging Windows Vista. The defrag that it comes with doesn't seem to work very well, and I've seen it suggested before that I should try a third-party tool. Any suggestions?
If you opt for a third party defragmentation solution, you should preferably select one which is compatible with the volume shadow copy service (if your volume is formatted with 4k cluster size). This will minimize file movement during defrag on the relevant volumes and consequently also minimize shadow copy activity.
You can read more about the interaction between shadow copy and defrag in Vista/WHS/Server 2003 here http://support.microsoft.com/kb/312067
and http://www.diskeeperblog.com/archives/2007/12/dk08_feature_sp.html
That's a good point, probably most effective for businesses. The only installs I know that have Volume Shadow Copy and Previous Versions are Business and Ultimate. Thanks for the tip DiskeeperRep!
Theres more the a defrag then just windows load times. I.E. increased lifetime of your hard drive.
Given that the OP claims the Windows defrag "doesn't seem to work very well" I'm guessing he's expecting night/day results, such as boot time decreases and generally faster PC operation. Just wanted to dispel that myth. I concur that a properly maintained defragmentation level is a good thing, but that the method is basically irrelevant.
You know, Maximum PC did a test recently. They found that out of 8 contenders, none made any worthwhile difference in boot/shutdown times - you're just as good going with the stock Windows defragger. I believe it was June 2008 issue, maaaaybe July. Any ways, convinced me $60 is $60 too much for defragmenting programs, no matter how many ways you can sort your sectors!
People don't want to hear this, which is OK too. They like their utilities.
I run 'defrag c: -f' (and whatever other drives) every tuesday on all our servers
If you opt for a third party defragmentation solution, you should preferably select one which is compatible with the volume shadow copy service (if your volume is formatted with 4k cluster size). This will minimize file movement during defrag on the relevant volumes and consequently also minimize shadow copy activity.
You can read more about the interaction between shadow copy and defrag in Vista/WHS/Server 2003 here http://support.microsoft.com/kb/312067
and http://www.diskeeperblog.com/archives/2007/12/dk08_feature_sp.html
Best regards
Representative
Diskeeper Corporation
Did someone from Diskeeper just make an account to answer this guy's question? That's awesome.
If you opt for a third party defragmentation solution, you should preferably select one which is compatible with the volume shadow copy service (if your volume is formatted with 4k cluster size). This will minimize file movement during defrag on the relevant volumes and consequently also minimize shadow copy activity.
You can read more about the interaction between shadow copy and defrag in Vista/WHS/Server 2003 here http://support.microsoft.com/kb/312067
and http://www.diskeeperblog.com/archives/2007/12/dk08_feature_sp.html
Best regards
Representative
Diskeeper Corporation
Did someone from Diskeeper just make an account to answer this guy's question? That's awesome.
I hear they do this all the time on different forums/news groups.
Posts
http://www.auslogics.com/disk-defrag/index.php
So far, it's way better than Microsoft's. Much faster, and I don't know why they don't show defrag information for Vista anymore.
And it does suck they got rid of the info in Vista - not even an option to turn it on it seems.
It's good.
Diskeeper is an awesome program in that you never really need to run a defrag, it has a small process that always is watching for new/modified files and defrags them on the fly when the system is idle (read: won't slow down your games). It does pretty much all you need. The defrag included with Windows is actually a very stripped down version of diskeeper that MS licenses from them.
BUT...good god. I gave up on them. I use a unique email address for every registration or product I buy. So I *know* what companies do with my email address. Diskeeper has not sold my info to anyone, I never get any third party spam on that address, ever. However, diskeeper themselves spam me with 5-10 marketing messages for their own products per week...even the same product I already own. I tried numerous times to get it fixed, and they've lied every time in saying they'll fix it. Needless to say, there's a filter that goes straight to trash for them now. Great product, love it, but no thanks. When I upgraded to 64 bit, I never bothered with it because of the complete disrespect for my privacy.
So, diskeeper = good. What they do with your email = bad. If you buy the product, make sure to use a disposable address, or you will be sorry.
Theres more the a defrag then just windows load times. I.E. increased lifetime of your hard drive.
If you opt for a third party defragmentation solution, you should preferably select one which is compatible with the volume shadow copy service (if your volume is formatted with 4k cluster size). This will minimize file movement during defrag on the relevant volumes and consequently also minimize shadow copy activity.
You can read more about the interaction between shadow copy and defrag in Vista/WHS/Server 2003 here
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/312067
and
http://www.diskeeperblog.com/archives/2007/12/dk08_feature_sp.html
Best regards
Representative
Diskeeper Corporation
Given that the OP claims the Windows defrag "doesn't seem to work very well" I'm guessing he's expecting night/day results, such as boot time decreases and generally faster PC operation. Just wanted to dispel that myth. I concur that a properly maintained defragmentation level is a good thing, but that the method is basically irrelevant.
People don't want to hear this, which is OK too. They like their utilities.
I run 'defrag c: -f' (and whatever other drives) every tuesday on all our servers
Safe mode defrag ftw! What does -f do for it? I just do 'defrag c:'
Did someone from Diskeeper just make an account to answer this guy's question? That's awesome.
I hear they do this all the time on different forums/news groups.
"-f Force defragmentation even if free space is low"
Oh good, I'll do that tonight. I have 4% free on my music drive lol