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You know, I think it is very much fair to call them anti-choice, because when they're asked to support things that actually reduce abortions and make sure children grow up in secure households, they almost always vote NO.
The anti-abortion position is based on a lot of paternalizing that holds that the rights of the mother - and in many cases the very competence of a mother to make an informed decision - become irrelevant once she becomes pregnant. Calling it "anti-choice" is very accurate.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
At the moment I've solidified my positions on all the props except for 2 (caged animals) and the one regarding high-speed transportation. My difficulty is Prop 2 stems from our local economy. I'm all for animals being grown in habital, humane environments but can local farms deal with this now with our economy in the tanker? I understand that they have 6 years to conform but if they don't many families will be buying cheap eggs from other states with similar inhumane environments. So this really is hurting small farms and really not aiding the fight for humane treatment of animals right?
On the other hand 6 years is a pretty long time to get used to breeding animals in humane, cage-free environments right?
A similar issue is with the proposition on the high-speed transportation bill. That sounds like it costs a ton of money but will it be worth it in the long run? I support a lowering of emmissions with this type of transportation but it sounds like it will take forever to build and quite a lot of money. Add to that CA is bankrupt.
My Ohio (Knox County) early-voting ballot had descriptions on it.
Sample ballot?
I would operate on the assumption you should do some research before you get in the booth. There probably won't be much besides a title and short summary if that.
Prolonged exposure to pro-lifers makes this all the more true
The way it is in California, at least, is that the voting booth machine is identical to the sample ballot, layout and all. If you are using paper ballots (still calculated using computer), in California they now use inkdots, and I don't know if any place still uses the punch card after the hanging chad fiasco but they still generally work the same way. With the paper ballot, it is aligned in a series of boxes in rows and column, each one numbered. These numbers correspond to the numbers that are next to the spots for the candidates or the yes/no's on propositions. For example, on my sample ballot, Yes on Prop 7 has a 110 next to it, and No has a 111 next to it. So if I vote No on Prop 7, I push the ink marker into the corresponding hole in the voting machine, and it marks box 111 on the paper ballot.
With the paper ballots, it is always a good idea to check your ballot after you mark it and take it out of the machine to be sure that the correct boxes are actually marked. The first year I voted, the pages on the machine were misaligned and out of order, so the ballots were being marked incorrectly (this was also back when they still used punchcard ballots.
Note that I'm talking about the California voting system, but a lot of areas use very similar systems.
Uh huh.
And they would argue that you are for the killing of a baby. So, that's anti-life.
All I'm saying is that it's childish. Ironically.
From what I've seen, the price is somewhat negligible for better eggs at Trader Joes. And from what I'm gleaning it shouldn't be too difficult for farms to shift to humane habits. I guess I could vote Yes on 2 then.
On another note I find it odd that my local paper has written editorials that oppose Prop 8 but endorse McCain.
WHAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED: City limits, population density, solve for maximum compactness (don't split up cities if you don't have to).
WHAT SHOULDN'T: Age, gender, race/ethnicity, education level, income level, locations of incumbents' homes, voting tendencies for the love of God what the shit.
Change city limits to "natural and political boundaries." - ie, county lines, city limits, etc, but also rivers, mountain ridges, etc.
I hadn't heard of this measure. Anyone from there know more about it? It's sounds somewhat similar to Santa Monica "legalizing" marijuana via ballot measure by putting reported incidents at the bottom of the priority list for the police. Maybe I should go to San Francisco more often. :winky:
According to my mom, that shit is already illegal. This would just be punishing them more for infractions.
So, they've already had their time to rectify the situation. Six years more is way too long.
We had a thread on it about a month ago.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
I'm leaning no on this because I'm unconvinced it would represent a good cost/benefit analysis, but this is just based on skimming the summary and arguments for/against. I haven't looked into it much.
I tend to oppose all bond measures unless it's for something we really, really need, like, yesterday. Government wants something, they can fucking well allocate funds for it out of existing tax revenue, and if the tax revenue isn't there, raise the fucking tax rate. Bonds are the government's way of deciding they want to spends them some money they don't have, so they'll just sell some bonds and force us to find a way to pay for it down the road.
And when our economy sucks, this logic applies doubly. High speed transport is nice, but I ain't fucking paying for it right now.
I am sad-face that it might destroy parkland though.
Boo needs stop in the bay area.
Then it can go to Vegas too.
There's some group that's been trying for years to build a Las Vegas to Anaheim maglev.
Terrible terrible idea. Why have a Republic if you're going to do this? It probably doesn't have to be as hard as it is in Mass but simple majority is ass backward. It takes successive joint legislative sessions (petitioner based ones only need to garner 25% though) AND a ballot initiative here. This is what happened with same sex marriage in MA and the controversy died away.
Yes, even a decent number of Republicans in Massachusetts largely don't want to outlaw gay marriage anymore. The joint session the second time did not pass (45 for, 151 against) which means it would be at least 2012 before a ballot initiative could be voted on.
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The CA government is a long shallow money trench in which pimps and thieves run free and good men die like dogs. /thompson
Do not think on it overmuch or you will go mad.
We were several billion samoleons in the hole last I checked, so I guess for once in history they might be averse to spending cash they don't have, but not so much that they're going to try to get out of the hole. We've got some hilariously crooked politicians in this here state.
Jersey politics are weird this election, though. I'm actually thinking about voting for a Republican for Congress.
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Is the Republican candidate a decent guy who will get shit done?
I'm still on the fence about Reichert/Burner in WA for this very reason.
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He's a decent guy (classical conservative type. Wants to sort our shit out fiscally whilst simultaneously not giving a shit who's fucking who), but based on that he's probably not going to get elected, let alone get shit done if he did make it to Congress.
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