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Ensemble shutting down; Head dudes make new studio; new studio will support Halo Wars

FyreWulffFyreWulff YouRegistered User, ClubPA regular
edited September 2008 in Games and Technology
Confirmed.
Microsoft has decided to close Ensemble Studios following the completion of Halo Wars. After the closure, the Ensemble leadership team will form a new studio and has agreed to provide ongoing support for Halo Wars as well as work on other projects with Microsoft Game Studios.

The team at Ensemble has made invaluable contributions to the games industry with their Age of Empires and Age of Mythology games and with the highly anticipated release of Halo Wars. This decision does not reflect at all on Ensembles talent or the quality of Halo Wars. in fact, many people who have had a chance to test drive Halo Wars agree that it is on track to being a fantastic game.

This was a fiscally-rooted decision that keeps MGS on its growth path. While the decision to dissolve Ensemble was not an easy one, Microsoft is working to place as many Ensemble employees who do not move to the newly formed studio into open positions within Microsoft as possible.

As to our overall strategy at MGS, it remains the same. We are committed to growing MGS with world-class talent both internally and with our external partners around the globe. We have recently added some well-known developers to our team and will continue growing the team. Were particularly excited about the titles we have in the pipeline and continue to evaluate additional opportunities to bring incredible games to life with the industrys best. Our investment in games has never been greater than it is today.


before confirmation:


Reported at H.B.O and Shacknews
Shacknews has learned via multiple independent reports that developer Ensemble Studios (Age of Empires) will shut down operation following the release of its upcoming title Halo Wars.

According to sources, employees not associated with Halo Wars have been laid off today. Those attached to Halo Wars have been offered incentives to stay on the project until completion.

Halo Wars, an RTS based on the Halo franchise, was announced in September of 2006. The Xbox 360 title is currently slated for release sometime in the first half of 2009.

Ensemble Studios was founded in 1995. The Microsoft-owned company is best known for the Age of Empires series of RTS games.

Shacknews has contacted both Microsoft and Ensemble for comment, but has not yet received a reply.

If this is true, Halo Wars is doomed. The game wasn't even really mentioned or shown at E3, only given a trailer release like 2 days afterwords, without any real press backing. I guess MS is shutting down it's studios left and right.

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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Age of Empires 2 Gold is the only game that never leaves my hard drive. Ever.

    :cry:

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  • zilozilo Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    It's transitioned from rumor to fact:
    Gamasutra wrote:
    Speaking to Gamasutra, a Microsoft representative declined to issue a statement but claimed an official response is en route.

    Sad day :(

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Well that sucks. Any chances some of the staff will move to different MS teams?

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  • FyreWulffFyreWulff YouRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited September 2008
    What different MS teams?

    They've pretty much closed their other ones down or let their clos buddies get away.

    FASA. Ensemble.

    Let Bizarre Creations and Bioware get bought by third parties.

    Turn 10 is probably next.

    Eventually they're either going to make everyone just 'Microsoft' or all we'll have left for MS first party is Rare as a 'seperate' studio.

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  • SpoitSpoit *twitch twitch* Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Bioware was never even a 2nd party to microsoft?

    Incidentally, What is Big Huge Games (Rise of Nations and the AoE3 expansions) working on?

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  • FyreWulffFyreWulff YouRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited September 2008
    I know. However, they were quite close, in that a employee transfer could have been pretty easy.

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  • ASimPersonASimPerson Cold... ... and hard.Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Man I loved me some AoE and AoK.

    I didn't like Age of Mythology or AoE3 that much, though. Apparently not a lot of other people did, either.

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  • ASimPersonASimPerson Cold... ... and hard.Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Spoit wrote: »
    Bioware was never even a 2nd party to microsoft?

    Incidentally, What is Big Huge Games (Rise of Nations and the AoE3 expansions) working on?

    Rise of Nations 2, I hope.

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  • SpoitSpoit *twitch twitch* Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    FyreWulff wrote: »
    I know. However, they were quite close, in that a employee transfer could have been pretty easy.


    No closer than, say, team ninja. The only game they did that Microsoft published was ME, and even that wasn't apparently that exclusive, since EA published the PC version

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  • FyreWulffFyreWulff YouRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited September 2008
    You know what i meant goddamnit.

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  • JCRooksJCRooks Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Woah, this is news to me. Interesting. Work is going to be abuzz with rumors now.

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    Gamertag: Rooks
    - Don't add me, I'm at/near the friend limit :)

    Steam: JC_Rooks

    Twitter: http://twitter.com/JiunweiC

    I work on this: http://www.xbox.com
  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    JC.


    You.

    Are.

    Next.

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  • JCRooksJCRooks Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    JC.


    You.

    Are.

    Next.

    The platform teams are very safe. :)

    (I've got also got an enormous amount of experience and there are a ton of game companies around here anyway, so worst case scenario I'm still in good shape)

    Anyway, as someone noted already, this is certainly not the first or even second time an internal studio has been closed. Everyone remembers FASA last year. There have been others previous too. Shane Kim a while ago, did an interview which explains the strategy behind MGS. Previously because 3rd party publishers were not developing for the original Xbox, MGS had to fill in a lot of genres by itself ... either through internal development or acquisitions.

    Times have certainly changed, especially considering how the 360 is arguably the 3rd party darling of the industry.

    Anyway, that's all I'll say. My buddies and I will be talking about this for a while, but I doubt I can talk about it. :)

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    Gamertag: Rooks
    - Don't add me, I'm at/near the friend limit :)

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    Twitter: http://twitter.com/JiunweiC

    I work on this: http://www.xbox.com
  • APZonerunnerAPZonerunner Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    What the fuck is going on at MGS?

    I don't really care for these guys, but the steps they're taking are plain out weird... surely a profitable PC dev who were clearly learning 360 should be kept?

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  • SteevSteev What can I do for you? Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Now it's kind of depressing looking at the back of the book from my collector's edition of AoE3 which strongly hinted at what AoE4 and 5 would be.

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  • zilozilo Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    You guys are assuming they're profitable. That may not be the case, we have no way of knowing.

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  • APZonerunnerAPZonerunner Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    zilo wrote: »
    You guys are assuming they're profitable. That may not be the case, we have no way of knowing.
    20 Million

    In 1997 a small group of people came together in Texas to form Ensemble Studios, and make a new kind of RTS game. The first Age of Empires surprised the critics, developed a major fan base, and went on to sell over a million copies. With each release of Age of Empires and Age of Mythology our success has grown along with our fans and community.

    Today we celebrate selling 20 Million copies of the Age of Empires franchise and we want to thank you our fans for making that possible. We hope to keep entertaining you and playing games with you for many years to come.

    Also.. please don't take Lionhead MS :( Or Rare :(

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  • FyreWulffFyreWulff YouRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited September 2008
    I imagine Lionhead is safe. For now.

    Rare is pretty much 'closed' already. Unlike Bungie, they don't even own their IP anymore. Rare is pretty much a brandname now.

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  • APZonerunnerAPZonerunner Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    FyreWulff wrote: »
    I imagine Lionhead is safe. For now.

    Rare is pretty much 'closed' already. Unlike Bungie, they don't even own their IP anymore. Rare is pretty much a brandname now.

    I think the one consoling fact I have about Rare is that it's more like Bungie - if MS chooses to let them go, they'll either sell them or hand it back or something - they won't just get shut down.

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  • RancedRanced Default Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Turn 10 will be around for a while. Forza 2 sold really well and it's pretty much their Gran Turismo contender.

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  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Ranced wrote: »
    Turn 10 will be around for a while. Forza 2 sold really well and it's pretty much their Gran Turismo contender.

    Age of Empires sold 20 million. Forza didnt sell 1/10 of that.

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  • DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Fuck, I hope they don't close Turn10.

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  • zilozilo Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    zilo wrote: »
    You guys are assuming they're profitable. That may not be the case, we have no way of knowing.
    20 Million

    In 1997 a small group of people came together in Texas to form Ensemble Studios, and make a new kind of RTS game. The first Age of Empires surprised the critics, developed a major fan base, and went on to sell over a million copies. With each release of Age of Empires and Age of Mythology our success has grown along with our fans and community.

    Today we celebrate selling 20 Million copies of the Age of Empires franchise and we want to thank you our fans for making that possible. We hope to keep entertaining you and playing games with you for many years to come.

    Also.. please don't take Lionhead MS :( Or Rare :(

    That's great and all... but there's no indication of how much it cost to keep them running through AoE3 + xpacs. 2 million sell-in is great, but it doesn't even tell half of the story.

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  • APZonerunnerAPZonerunner Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    There's certain ones I can't see them closing, Rare, Turn 10 and Lionhead I think all fit that bill. Mainly because they all provide something third parties don't.

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  • RancedRanced Default Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Forza 2 sold 4 million last I heard.

    Anyway, I imagine an RTS game company on a console isn't worth much to Microsoft anymore. Why they didn't keep them PC side, well, probably because AoE3 is pretty crap in comparison to a lot of different RTS's (Company of Heroes mainly) on the PC. Guess they didn't want to invest in them anymore.

    Is it a poor decision, though? Yeah, probably.

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  • ChewyWafflesChewyWaffles Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    Ranced wrote: »
    Turn 10 will be around for a while. Forza 2 sold really well and it's pretty much their Gran Turismo contender.

    Age of Empires sold 20 million. Forza didnt sell 1/10 of that.

    No, that's the franchise. I doubt AoE3 sold well at all.

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  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    Ranced wrote: »
    Turn 10 will be around for a while. Forza 2 sold really well and it's pretty much their Gran Turismo contender.

    Age of Empires sold 20 million. Forza didnt sell 1/10 of that.

    No, that's the franchise. I doubt AoE3 sold well at all.

    Yes I know.

    Age of Empires the series has sold 10 times as much as Forza 1 and 2.

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  • RancedRanced Default Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I like how the gap just keeps getting bigger.

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  • FyreWulffFyreWulff YouRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited September 2008
    Ranced wrote: »
    Turn 10 will be around for a while. Forza 2 sold really well and it's pretty much their Gran Turismo contender.

    Forza 2 was discontinued in publishing only 6 months after it's release.

    You see the issue was Microsoft was putting out both PGR and Forza. It was basically competing against itself.

    And CAR_RACING_GAME is no longer a system seller like it was in the early PS2 days. Now it's SHOOTING_GAME.

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  • zilozilo Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Forza 2's got a Platinum Hits release and it's moved 4 million worldwide...

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  • RancedRanced Default Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    zilo wrote: »
    Forza 2's got a Platinum Hits release and it's moved 4 million worldwide...

    but RACE_CAR_DRIVER games don't sell anymore you see

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  • zilozilo Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
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  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    This fucking sucks.

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  • RancedRanced Default Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Heh

    Only keeping the Halo Wars leadership team? Those guys are going to be stuck making Halo skinned AoE games for a while, unless it sells horribly.

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  • LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    PC GAMING DOOMED

    Edit: People should digg my post on it.

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  • FatsFats Corvallis, ORRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Well, that's depressing.

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  • FyreWulffFyreWulff YouRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited September 2008
    zilo wrote: »
    Forza 2's got a Platinum Hits release and it's moved 4 million worldwide...

    Yeah, and Halo 2 just got a platinum release and there's still only 3000 people playing it online.

    It's still very much discontinued.

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  • RancedRanced Default Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    The point you're making does not make very much sense at all.

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  • FyreWulffFyreWulff YouRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited September 2008
    The fact that it took it over a year to sell to 1/4th the userbase of the Xbox 360?

    Games don't go platinum to celebrate them selling awesome, they go platinum because Microsoft figures they've pretty much sold as much as they have, so they're trying to get people to buy it at a lower price.

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  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    When the fuck did selling to 1/4 of the userbase become a bad thing?

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