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Lookin' for a laptop

Lostprophet8Lostprophet8 Registered User regular
My current computer has begun to slowly die. I want to replace it with a laptop. What are some sites I should check out? Which are creditable and which aren't? Are there any brands I should avoid? For example, my roommate got an HP laptop and his wireless card burnt out in a few months, and it turns out that is a pretty common problem. Can I trust a refurbished laptop? What all do they do to make it "refurbished"? I don't want too much, just something that has plenty of space for music and can play a few games like World of Warcraft and Spore. Any advise would be greatly appreciated.

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    KhavallKhavall British ColumbiaRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    For the same price as a "good" laptop that will be obsolete in a few months, seem extremely heavy, loud, and hot, and you will regret buying, you can buy an Eee 901 and build a very respectable desktop.


    Think about it.

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    DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Khavall wrote: »
    Eee 901

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    EgoEgo Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    A refurbished laptop will be one of two things, either a laptop that was or became defective in some fashion (ie LCD inverter went, motherboard went etc) and has been repaired, or a laptop that was returned to the store (which necessitates an inspection after which the laptop is sold as refurbished --a laptop is worth less used than refurbished, so retailers do this more often than you'd first imagine.)

    Refurbished parts scare a lot of people. There are no real statistics available on refurbished products either, which scares responsible buyers who try to do research. But.

    To sell a computer as refurbished in the United States or Canada (I don't know about other parts of the world,) a product must undergo hardware testing, and generally speaking this means you'll get something that works (in the technical sense --scuffed cases and cosmetic issues are common enough) and even have a bit of a warranty and a course of action if you get a refurbed laptop and it doesn't work right.

    A refurb of a 'troublesome' model will still be troublesome unless it's just a single faulty component (say a wireless card) that's replaced with another model. So if you find a refurb laptop that looks good for you, go look up reviews and complaints for it (ie google 'problems with xx-xxxx' or 'problem with my xx-xxxx'.) A refurb of a good laptop is probably going to be a damned good deal.

    About netbooks, a friend of mine's replacing his laptop, and he realized that for all he does on it a netbook would make a lot of sense for him (it's portability being so much better than his current 15.4" desktop replacement.) You know what you do on your laptop --if you don't want a second machine or don't have room for it, I doubt a netbook would make you happy, but netbook + desktop is really turning into an awesome combination so there's a reason people above mentioned it.

    In summary: do a bit of research on models of refurbished laptops that interest you, and you'll probably get a great deal out of it.

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    maximumzeromaximumzero I...wait, what? New Orleans, LARegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Daedalus wrote: »
    Khavall wrote: »
    Eee 901

    Okay I've done a google search on this thing...

    The fuck? 9" display? A 1.6Ghz processor?

    Why...why would you want this thing?

    I don't think I'd go any smaller than 13" ...and 1.6Ghz? What? That's just sad.

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    TrentusTrentus Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Daedalus wrote: »
    Khavall wrote: »
    Eee 901

    Okay I've done a google search on this thing...

    The fuck? 9" display? A 1.6Ghz processor?

    Why...why would you want this thing?

    I don't think I'd go any smaller than 13" ...and 1.6Ghz? What? That's just sad.

    I'd love one. My macbook pro is big and heavy, and while I'm at uni, it's often a lot more power than I need. Especially when I can get the servers to do most of the work anyway. So the eee would be more than enough power for my needs there.

    I do love being able to play games and encode video, or do just about whatever the hell I want on my mac, and I would never replace it with an eee. But there are times where I wish I had something smaller.

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    syndalissyndalis Getting Classy On the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Products regular
    edited September 2008
    Daedalus wrote: »
    Khavall wrote: »
    Eee 901

    Okay I've done a google search on this thing...

    The fuck? 9" display? A 1.6Ghz processor?

    Why...why would you want this thing?

    I don't think I'd go any smaller than 13" ...and 1.6Ghz? What? That's just sad.

    because some folks like their laptops portable and utilitarian and their desktops to be powerhouses.

    Me? I have a 17" Macbook Pro. Best of both worlds if you don't mind hauling the beast around town.

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    1ddqd1ddqd Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    You need to tell us more: do you want gaming prowess, battery life, or cheap-ocity?

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    DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Daedalus wrote: »
    Khavall wrote: »
    Eee 901

    Okay I've done a google search on this thing...

    The fuck? 9" display? A 1.6Ghz processor?

    Why...why would you want this thing?

    I don't think I'd go any smaller than 13" ...and 1.6Ghz? What? That's just sad.

    It weighs two pounds and has a battery life of five hours.

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    Torso BoyTorso Boy Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I've had nothing but crap from Dell in the realm of desktops (though I'm pretty demanding), but I just took a gamble and picked up a Studio 17. I've had it for just over three weeks and I think it's fantastic, despite some infrequent issues with the internal speakers and keyboard media controls.

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    PeregrineFalconPeregrineFalcon Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Daedalus wrote: »
    Daedalus wrote: »
    Khavall wrote: »
    Eee 901

    Okay I've done a google search on this thing...

    The fuck? 9" display? A 1.6Ghz processor?

    Why...why would you want this thing?

    I don't think I'd go any smaller than 13" ...and 1.6Ghz? What? That's just sad.

    It weighs two pounds and has a battery life of five hours.

    This is the same guy that thinks that homebrew is a waste of time and can't figure out why anyone would mod a PSP or get a DS loader card.

    tl;dr don't feed the trolls.

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    KhavallKhavall British ColumbiaRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Daedalus wrote: »
    Khavall wrote: »
    Eee 901

    Okay I've done a google search on this thing...

    The fuck? 9" display? A 1.6Ghz processor?

    Why...why would you want this thing?

    I don't think I'd go any smaller than 13" ...and 1.6Ghz? What? That's just sad.

    This is the part where you say "Just kidding!" and forget you ever posted this.

    It weighs two pounds and has a five hour battery life.

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    JustinSane07JustinSane07 Really, stupid? Brockton__BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2008
    I just bought an HP DV4T and it's a really good laptop so far. My only complaint is there is a single fan and when it ramps up, it really ramps up. It's loud as shit at full blast.

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    Rigor MortisRigor Mortis Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Daedalus wrote: »
    Khavall wrote: »
    Eee 901

    Okay I've done a google search on this thing...

    The fuck? 9" display? A 1.6Ghz processor?

    Why...why would you want this thing?

    I don't think I'd go any smaller than 13" ...and 1.6Ghz? What? That's just sad.
    Some of prefer not subsidizing our local chiropractor's early retirement.

    I can fit my laptop, PSP, DS, MP3 player, DS, two sets of earbuds, three music books, a novel, my day planner into a messenger bag with enough space left over for these: http://www.korg.com/gear/info.asp?a_prod_no=NanoSeries&category_id=8 - and the total weight is less than a full-size notebook computer.

    Think, man, think

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    archonwarparchonwarp Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    If you want to game and want a 15.4" desktop replacement, get the Qosmio.
    It's pretty cheap considering what it packs under the hood, and it's not too terrible looking. The downside is that it's x-box level huge and heavy.

    Take my advice, get a 13.1" or smaller notebook. Get one of the new macbooks that are coming out soon, or the Asus Eee 1000h so that you can do anything ever on your 10.2" screened laptop, and have a ton of money left over to invest in whatever.

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    PeregrineFalconPeregrineFalcon Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Some of prefer not subsidizing our local chiropractor's early retirement.

    I can fit my laptop, PSP, DS, MP3 player, DS, two sets of earbuds, three music books, a novel, my day planner into a messenger bag with enough space left over for these: http://www.korg.com/gear/info.asp?a_prod_no=NanoSeries&category_id=8 - and the total weight is less than a full-size notebook computer.

    Think, man, think

    And let's just not have the "But but but it's not that heavy you should be okay with lugging around a seven pound laptop you're a weakling if you can't I bench 200lbs with my cock HURF HURF DURF" argument.

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    JustinSane07JustinSane07 Really, stupid? Brockton__BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2008
    You're fond of the "HURF DURF" phrase, aren't you Peregrine?

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    PeregrineFalconPeregrineFalcon Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    You're fond of the "HURF DURF" phrase, aren't you Peregrine?

    Quite fond, really; it summarizes most arguments rather well I find.

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    NatheoNatheo Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Im a fan of my xps m1530. it's not mega huge, it's more than powerful enough with a t8300, 8600m 256, and 4gb of memory. I also like the amount of desktop space it affords with a 1920x1200 screen. Problem is it's only got a 6 cell battery that it easily burns through in about 2.5 hours, and the speakers are really tinny. But it's a laptop, so i usually use my headphones anyways.

    As far as size goes, it's 6 pounds without the ac adapter, 7 pounds with, and only 1.2 inches thick at it's thickest point, which is where the screen hinge is. It's really not that bad. It's not perfect, but i think it's better than most.

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    MisanthropicMisanthropic Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Keep your eye on slickdeals.net - they frequently have laptop deals from all the major manufacturers. And you can really find some good deals - I've seen new, current gen laptops go for up to $500 off.

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    Mai-KeroMai-Kero Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    If you don't go with the awesome mini-PC eee thing, go with a Dell. They're solid, have decent tech support, and generally built like tanks. For example: my Vostro. How many times has this thing been dropped? Lots. Do I worry and try to be careful? No. Because it's the Highlander of computing machines. Guns don't hurt it, I would have to actually sever the screen with a sword. And if that happens I've got accidental damage anyway.

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    143999143999 Tellin' ya not askin' ya, not pleadin' with yaRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Does anybody have any experience with this thing? Wired kinda liked it.

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    PeregrineFalconPeregrineFalcon Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    143999 wrote: »
    Does anybody have any experience with this thing? Wired kinda liked it.

    It's a big, heavy motherfucker, like all gaming notebooks, but it's goddamn fast.

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    mojojoeomojojoeo A block off the park, living the dream.Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Natheo wrote: »
    Im a fan of my xps m1530. it's not mega huge, it's more than powerful enough with a t8300, 8600m 256, and 4gb of memory. I also like the amount of desktop space it affords with a 1920x1200 screen. Problem is it's only got a 6 cell battery that it easily burns through in about 2.5 hours, and the speakers are really tinny. But it's a laptop, so i usually use my headphones anyways.

    As far as size goes, it's 6 pounds without the ac adapter, 7 pounds with, and only 1.2 inches thick at it's thickest point, which is where the screen hinge is. It's really not that bad. It's not perfect, but i think it's better than most.

    I have the same. I completly recommend it.

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    AzioAzio Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    syndalis wrote: »
    because some folks like their laptops portable and utilitarian and their desktops to be powerhouses.
    Not me. I like all my technology to be fancy and expensive.

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    FremFrem Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Azio wrote: »
    syndalis wrote: »
    because some folks like their laptops portable and utilitarian and their desktops to be powerhouses.
    Not me. I like all my technology to be fancy and expensive.

    Fancy? Did we mention the elegant Linux architecture, the infinite hackability, and the fact that it boots in a fraction of the time it takes Vista to boot on a normal laptop?

    As for expensive, they come in different colours. I recommend purchasing them all so you can make an informed decision on which one you want to be seen in public with.

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    UltaruneUltarune Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I'm going overseas to visit family for two weeks in 2 days and I want to purchase a laptop to play low-fi games like X-com, maybe starcraft, watch dvds that I will bring, write, etc. I'm not concerned about modern gaming or anything, so what should I look for in a laptop? Any recommendations on brands, store to buy it from, deals, minimum requirements, or anything else? Its unlike me to make an off the cuff purchase like this, but eh, I'd like a laptop and could use it for when work gets boring as well, and its not like building a gaming rig in terms of complexity and price differentials, right? I'm looking to spend 5-600 or so, but if anyone suggests otherwise I could go up. Thanks for any advice.

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    zanetheinsanezanetheinsane Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    My friend bought a "gaming laptop" once to replace his desktop since he had to travel alot. After about a year he regretted it. It had become pretty obsolete in terms of games, was ridiculously huge and heavy, and he ended up buying a new desktop anyway.

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    Dance CommanderDance Commander Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I'm aggravated, because a netbook is -exactly- what I need--low power, good battery life, solid, portable--except I really, really want a full size keyboard. Also, installing Linux from USB keys is something I've never been able to get to work on desktops, so I'm apprehensive about buying a computer with no optical drive.

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    ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    There is now a program out there, whose name escapes me, that you select from a menu which Linux build you want and which drive you want a boot disc made to (including flash drives). It even downloads the OS for you.
    The Eee 1000s have a larger keyboard than the 900s, I think they are close to a fullsize,

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    Dance CommanderDance Commander Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Yeah, I can't remember the name of that program, but I've used it. Problem was, I've never managed to make a computer boot from a USB flash drive. Maybe laptop mobos have better support for it, though.

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    AzioAzio Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    My friend bought a "gaming laptop" once to replace his desktop since he had to travel alot. After about a year he regretted it. It had become pretty obsolete in terms of games, was ridiculously huge and heavy, and he ended up buying a new desktop anyway.
    This used to be true but it isn't really anymore. You can get gaming laptops now that are fairly slim and lightweight.

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    ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    And cost 3 grand?

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    KhavallKhavall British ColumbiaRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Azio wrote: »
    My friend bought a "gaming laptop" once to replace his desktop since he had to travel alot. After about a year he regretted it. It had become pretty obsolete in terms of games, was ridiculously huge and heavy, and he ended up buying a new desktop anyway.
    This used to be true but it isn't really anymore. You can get gaming laptops now that are fairly slim and lightweight.

    That are still unreasonably expensive, have awful battery life, and slim to no upgradability.

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    NileNile Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    143999 wrote: »
    Does anybody have any experience with this thing? Wired kinda liked it.

    It's a big, heavy motherfucker, like all gaming notebooks, but it's goddamn fast.

    I'm buying one tomorrow. It'll be my first laptop. I'll let you know how it runs.

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