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Shadowrun character

BelruelBelruel NARUTO FUCKSRegistered User regular
edited September 2008 in Artist's Corner
hey, i've been doodling on a sketch of my shadowrun character (just started playing last week with some dudes on the forum) and i have been running into some tough spots.

chicoblue already helped me a lot with the face and hands, but i am terribly out of practice with drawing people, and i would love it if you guys could put your collective awesome might towards helping me improve this in any way.

i'll take any advice/sketch overs you guys feel generous enough to send my way

the red arrows point to areas that i think i really need help with
notes:
-not sure about the positioning og the eyes themselves, and the iris/pupil part i have sketched in right now is in no way final, i just wasn't sure what i was going to have her be looking at yet, but blank eyes bother me


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  • ProjeckProjeck Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I like it! everything looks solid to me, cant wait to see it farther down the road!

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  • TalleyrandTalleyrand Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I'm usually not a great source of advice but it does seem like something is off with the face. Maybe it's the difference between the pupils themselves, but hey, it's Shadowrun. For all I know one of them shoots laser beams. The only other thing I see that might be a problem is her hairline. It's seems somewhat unsymmetrical.

    The feet and jacket seem like you're getting close to nailing them and I don't see what's wrong with her thumb.

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  • nakirushnakirush Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I think the eye problem is more of a jawline/hairline issue. It looks like there's a slight perspective problem.
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  • BelruelBelruel NARUTO FUCKS Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    oh thank you, that hairline looks much better, i will go tweak that up next time i start working on it

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  • TamTam Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Most obviously:

    She seems to be shooting one way and looking another
    The head is misplaced on the neck
    The thighs are gigantic
    The legs seem to come straight out of the waist rather than the hips

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  • JohnnyCacheJohnnyCache Starting Defense Place at the tableRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    She should be looking down at least one of the guns she's firing.

    Also...feat?

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  • TamTam Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    You want to establish the plane of the face with parallel lines. Here's a basic correction overpaint
    the arms were two different lengths as well.

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  • BelruelBelruel NARUTO FUCKS Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    that drawover helps immensely tam, i hadn't even noticed the waist thing at all

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  • TamTam Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Glad to be of help. You might want to tone down the thighs even more though- my "correction" actually looks pretty big now.

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  • DeeLockDeeLock Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Well the biggest problem i have is the balance of the drawing. It's like she's leaning way back but if she was actually doing that she'd fall right over. Try doing it, you'll end up on your ass.

    If you flip the canvas you can notice these kinds of problems better. Proportion and anatomy errors are easier to see once you flip the image.

    Here you'll notice that her eyes are all outa whack and she's about to fall over.
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    I did a quick drawover to show how she can be balanced out a bit better.
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    Now the weight is centered over her feet (i hope) and she's not in danger of falling over.

    Of course if you want her to be flying backwards she could be, but it doesn't really make sense if she's squatting.

    There's also a few anatomical errors that i fixed, like her eyes and her arms (they were different sizes the far one was longer than the close one.)

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  • FutoreFutore Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Something that would make this look more realistic would be taking into account how you would actually shoot in a crouching position like that.

    They're huge hand guns, which always have a lot of recoil since they're high calibre and have a light weight. and she's holding two. so, her back would be slanted like you and Tam drew from taking the force

    the problem with balance that dee lock is talking about would be corrected by her leaning more on her back foot. Also, spread the feet apart just a little so that she can be leaning on the back more

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  • srsizzysrsizzy Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Just a note, the facial expression is incredibly static.

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  • ScosglenScosglen Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Tam's drawover prettymuch covered everything. I would bitch about the arms but you're putting an overcoat on her anyway so It's a little moot.

    My only suggestion would be that having both arms locked at the elbows makes the pose a little bit stiff.

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  • FutoreFutore Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Tam, your avatar is hypnotizing.

    but, I just pasted a bunch of your avs together so that they'd dance together, and um, they yell AIDS at me

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  • TamTam Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Futore wrote: »
    Tam, your avatar is hypnotizing.

    but, I just pasted a bunch of your avs together so that they'd dance together, and um, they yell AIDS at me

    wait

    what

    I haven't used the version that flashed AIDS in a long time.

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  • FutoreFutore Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
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    I guess it's what PA has saved as your av

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  • TamTam Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Futore wrote: »
    I guess it's what PA has saved as your av

    huh

    weird

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  • BelruelBelruel NARUTO FUCKS Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    its the non aids one for me tam

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