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How do I penetrate the world of comics?

DremDrem Registered User regular
edited October 2006 in Graphic Violence
If there is already a topic on "hi im new to comics how do i start", you can skip reading this post and tell me. If not, keep in mind that my only knowledge of comic books is on Marvel and DC characters. I don't know much outside of those universes.


The only time I've read comics was a long time ago when my father came home one day with a big box filled with comics. It looked like one of those boxes we always got croissants in, cardboard bottom with a plastic wrapping over the top. My elder brother and I quickly divided them up into who got what books, though we of course read all of them. My brother got some Green Lantern comics, and the Green Lantern got this cool new green and black suit. We thought it was pretty awesome. I got some Batman ones, and it seemed like the end of a story arc. Batman beat this "fake" Batman who looked really cool. He had a metal suit and had claws and stuff. I think he might have been red. I remember the name "Knightfall," though I don't remember if it was the title of issue or one of the advertisements at the end for what I assumed were novels. I never read anything after that.

But for the past few months, I've been reading Wiki articles on various series, and I find the stories pretty interesting. I suppose it started with Infinit Crisis, and then I'd read up on who the people in there were, and then I looked up various series I remembered about. I find the evolution of characters and stories good, and I like how they tend to cross-over.

But I also seem a bit lost as to how it all works, though some of my impressions may be from mis-interpretations from my childhood. Some series have different artists that switch? Or are there multiple writers and artists for one series that alternate? Or am I completely off here, and I'm mistaking some spin-off/alternate series for the main one? Coupled with that is the fact that there is already a long established history with the series and characters, and I fear that if I were to try and start reading something now, I'd have no clue what is going on. (I read that this is what Infinite Crisis was for)



tl;dr So where should I start right now with comics? What is good (aside from Watchmen, which I've heard a lot about from my elder brother who heard a lot about it from his crazy Swedish writer friend)? It doesn't have to be Marvel or DC, though they are the ones I'm most interested in since they're the only ones I know. Should I wait a little bit for this Civil War thing to finish up?

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  • SASA Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    Just think of a character you like (Spider-Man, The Flash, Batman, etc.) and pick up a trade paperback. Once you become invested in that character start dicking around in wikipedia to become more familiar with the particular universe you're trying to break into.

    Comics such as the Walking Dead, Invincible, and Y the Last Man are alot easier to get into as they aren't connected to a larger continuity. The entire series is contained in a single ongoing.

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  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited October 2006
    heh, penetrate.

    here's what you do, guy

    you pick up a couple of trades of fairly new series like Astonishing X-Men, or New Avengers, or Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man. (I guess the DC equivalent would be something like Batman/Superman, and the new Justice League Of America series) They'll get you basically up to speed with what's going on in the current comics. If you have questions, you can generally look up certain comics in wiki, which is what you've been doing anyway.

    After that, it's just up to you to decide what you like.

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  • bobgorilabobgorila Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    heh, penetrate.

    You beat me to it!

    Basically, read stuff that people recommend you, then you'd develop a feel for what you dig on a general level.

    Also: if Infinite Crisis grabbed you, then you should read 52.

    My final piece of advice: a better way than following characters is to follow writers. I know now that pretty much anything by Morisson or Moore is worth me checking out, because I've really dug all their shit to date. I'm also turning on to Jeph Loeb thanks to his superman/batman stuff (and despite Hush).

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  • SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    I was in the same boat about three years ago, no clue where or how to start. I knew I liked X-Men and Spider-Man just from past experiences. Honestly, all I did was go to a comic shop and start buying some stuff. I just happened to catch X-Men at the tail end of the New X-Men run, just as the teams were being re-done, but, honestly, you can jump into anything now thanks to Wikipedia. It's usually beneficial to wait for a new arc, but I don't think getting a trade of something is ABSOLUTELY necessary. Also, any questions you have you can ask here... hope that all helps.

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  • laughterkillsmelaughterkillsme Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    I really wanted to make a lube joke, but somebody already mentioned the penetrate ... =\


    I just recently started reading comics ... not sure what the BEST way to
    get into them is .. but the way I did was this:


    Trolled these boards a bit, and looked up what people were talking about.
    At first it was mostly Graphic Novels and Popular Trades ... Dark Knight
    Returns, Watchmen, etc.

    After a while I got into Astonishing X-Men, read through Age of
    Apocalypse, a buncha Captain America stuff ...

    Without Wikipedia though, I wouldn't know heads from tails as far as
    what is going on. I guess if you don't want to get caught up with newer
    issues through wikipedia, Ultimate series stuff might be for you.


    (Ultimate is basically an alternate universe where they restarted all teh
    comics, same general arcs but sped up and with twists)


    I'm on the fence on whether or not I like em in general .. but you can get
    like all the Ultimate X-Men through buying X3 which ain't a bad place to
    start ... I think ?? I could be wrong somebody please correct me if I am.


    (oh, and as you can tell I don't have very much experience with the DC
    comics .. but the infinite crisis/52 thing seems like a solid idea and I
    might try that)

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  • Conditional_AxeConditional_Axe Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    Really, the best thing to do is find a character you like, walk into a shop, and buy some issues, and maybe some trade paperback collections. It's impossible to go back to the beginning for some of these ongoing books, and everybody had to just jump in at one point or another. If you're a completist, you can always find back issues later, but I think there's a huge misconception about things being 'accessible', especially in an age where we have forums and wikipedia to help fill in any gaps.

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  • MunchMunch Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    We should really make a sticky thread about how to get into comics.

    Anyhow, here's what I would do.

    1) Hit the local library and check out a bunch of stuff from their graphic novel section and read through it, paying attention to authors, artists, and characters that you like, and then using Google, wiki, or the TPB List to find information on things that the artists/writers worked on, or that the characters appeared in.

    2) Visit your local comic retailers and find one that suits you. Keep in mind that comics always come out on Wednesday, unless there's a holiday earlier in the week, and most places will have their product out on the shelves by noon at the latest. Then, after having developed an idea of what characters/writers/artists you like from your library reading, browse the shelves and see what looks interesting. Also, if the comic shop workers are cool and knowledgeable, they'll be able to reccomend some stuff to you.

    3) Make liberal use of comic fan sites like Newsarama and Comic Book Resources. They often have previews of upcoming books, reviews, exclusive news, and interviews with creators.

    4) Keep an eye on threads here and see what people are discussing, what they like, and what they hate. Ask questions if you don't understand a plot point, a character's motivations, or whatever. Keep an eye out on what people are buying and reviewing in the weekly shipping list as well.

    I stopped reading comics for something like five years after starting high school, and only recently started reading them again around a year and a half ago, so I can sympathize with you. But really, comics aren't half as confusing as some people might think. Yes, you might not understand some little obscure nod to past stories in a comic, but nowadays most are written to stand fairly well on their own, and not be too burdened with history.

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  • Bad KarmaBad Karma Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    Munch wrote:
    3) Make liberal use of comic fan sites like Newsarama and Comic Book Resources. They often have previews of upcoming books, reviews, exclusive news, and interviews with creators.

    Just stay away from the forums.

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  • thepassengerthepassenger Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    Bad Karma wrote:
    Munch wrote:
    3) Make liberal use of comic fan sites like Newsarama and Comic Book Resources. They often have previews of upcoming books, reviews, exclusive news, and interviews with creators.

    Just stay away from the forums.

    Unless you want to see discussion about which X-character slept with which other X-character (supposedly Wolverine's banged them all).

    If you're familiar with the characters and don't want to deal with the years of backstory, the Ultimate line is definitely the way to go (unless you happen to hate Spider-Man or X-Men). I stopped collecting for about 6 years while I was in High School/College and got back into collecting around when Ultimate Spider-Man was in its 20s or so, picked up the trades of what I missed and was in love. Then I just kinda branched out and got everything that Bendis was writing at the time (I think it was only just DareDevil). Probably good to go to the library and eat up all the trades they have available there, and then follow writers not characters.

    I am not really sure how to break into the DC universe as that is something I have always WANTED to do, but have never had any success (I'd stick around for an arc or two, but it'd ultimately lose my interest). Any specifics on how to get into that universe because I love the characters through DCAU.

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  • Conditional_AxeConditional_Axe Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    what exactly are you looking for when you ask about how to 'break in' to the DCU?

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  • thepassengerthepassenger Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    what exactly are you looking for when you ask about how to 'break in' to the DCU?
    I have no issues with the DCU, I love the Elseworld's stuff, but I just can't seem to maintain any sort of regular titles in that universe. I feel that stuff like Justice League/Society is too daunting because I don't know shit about the characters besides those from the cartoons. And I feel like I only purchase books on a regular basis in the DCU if it's stunt artist/writer arcs. Like right now I'm getting Batman for Morrison/Kubert, but I'm sure once their run is up, I'll not buy Batman again until they come back.
    Maybe some trade suggestions that aren't Elseworld's trades besides Infinite Crisis that take place in normal DCU continuity. I like the characters, but for some reason they can't seem to grab me to want to read about them on a monthly basis. Maybe I am broken. :oops:

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  • bobgorilabobgorila Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    Actually, you know what got me into comics? Really good comic-based cartoons.

    Batman TAS made sure I checked out Justice League, which segued into JLU, and then I just /had/ to know the back-stories to all these cool "new" characters my brain had been assaulted with.

    The X-men cartoons also made me try and check out some X books, but it turns out they all suck balls.

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  • SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    what exactly are you looking for when you ask about how to 'break in' to the DCU?
    I have no issues with the DCU, I love the Elseworld's stuff, but I just can't seem to maintain any sort of regular titles in that universe. I feel that stuff like Justice League/Society is too daunting because I don't know shit about the characters besides those from the cartoons. And I feel like I only purchase books on a regular basis in the DCU if it's stunt artist/writer arcs. Like right now I'm getting Batman for Morrison/Kubert, but I'm sure once their run is up, I'll not buy Batman again until they come back.
    Maybe some trade suggestions that aren't Elseworld's trades besides Infinite Crisis that take place in normal DCU continuity. I like the characters, but for some reason they can't seem to grab me to want to read about them on a monthly basis. Maybe I am broken. :oops:

    Teen Titans was my gateway to the DCU, honestly. And the last arc of Green Latern with Kyle Rainer. But TT, even when bad, is really good.

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  • Conditional_AxeConditional_Axe Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    what exactly are you looking for when you ask about how to 'break in' to the DCU?
    I have no issues with the DCU, I love the Elseworld's stuff, but I just can't seem to maintain any sort of regular titles in that universe. I feel that stuff like Justice League/Society is too daunting because I don't know shit about the characters besides those from the cartoons. And I feel like I only purchase books on a regular basis in the DCU if it's stunt artist/writer arcs. Like right now I'm getting Batman for Morrison/Kubert, but I'm sure once their run is up, I'll not buy Batman again until they come back.
    Maybe some trade suggestions that aren't Elseworld's trades besides Infinite Crisis that take place in normal DCU continuity. I like the characters, but for some reason they can't seem to grab me to want to read about them on a monthly basis. Maybe I am broken. :oops:
    You shouldn't let continuity daunt you. The current JSA run, for example, is very cognizant that it's using old characters and referring to old stories, and for the most part, they hand it well and recap everything you need to know.

    And really, because comics are ultimately episodic, all you need to know is the book's logline.

    Most of the character origins are not very far removed from what you saw in the DCAU; there's little that's wildly inconsistent between the two.

    I wish DC would publish a new Who's Who. As a kid, that was a great help for me, and it made me seek characters out that I'd not heard of before. A new Who's Who, and a new, more consistent, comprehensive OHOTMU would be really great for new readers.

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  • Caveman PawsCaveman Paws Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    I find most comics go to great lengths to be "newbie friendly". This means that the characters are constantly talking about who has what powers, recent events from previous issues, who is shagging who,etc.

    It's very easy to get into any comic. Add all the handy tips the others have pointed out (wiki, pick a character you like,etc) and your good to go.

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  • thepassengerthepassenger Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    Will make a mental note to pick up the Justice League books this Wednesday unless it's another $30 rape you in the ass week. JSA and JLA just relaunched right (judging from the new lineup threads here)?

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  • The Muffin ManThe Muffin Man Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    Sentry wrote:
    what exactly are you looking for when you ask about how to 'break in' to the DCU?
    I have no issues with the DCU, I love the Elseworld's stuff, but I just can't seem to maintain any sort of regular titles in that universe. I feel that stuff like Justice League/Society is too daunting because I don't know shit about the characters besides those from the cartoons. And I feel like I only purchase books on a regular basis in the DCU if it's stunt artist/writer arcs. Like right now I'm getting Batman for Morrison/Kubert, but I'm sure once their run is up, I'll not buy Batman again until they come back.
    Maybe some trade suggestions that aren't Elseworld's trades besides Infinite Crisis that take place in normal DCU continuity. I like the characters, but for some reason they can't seem to grab me to want to read about them on a monthly basis. Maybe I am broken. :oops:

    Teen Titans was my gateway to the DCU, honestly. And the last arc of Green Latern with Kyle Rainer. But TT, even when bad, is really good.

    It got me into the Titans as a whole.

    Before the show, I had no interest in who the fuck Changeling was, or what the deal with Raven is.

    Now I'm wishing more characters had made cameos, like Donna Troy for example.

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  • Conditional_AxeConditional_Axe Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    Will make a mental note to pick up the Justice League books this Wednesday unless it's another $30 rape you in the ass week. JSA and JLA just relaunched right (judging from the new lineup threads here)?
    JSA relaunches in December. JLA is on issue #2. JLA seems like it refers to events in 52 that we haven't seen yet in a few spots, so it's not something you're missing if you hit something that confuses you.

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  • TerrorbyteTerrorbyte __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2006
    The best place to start in the DCU is Starman - it's a well-written series with a unique character that touches on the foundations of the DCU. Then I'd move on to Morrison's JLA run - it captures the larger-than-life aspects of the universe quite well. Wikipedia helps a lot. Marvel is a lot more accessible for the "dip in and test the waters" crowd. But, DC rewards the kind of reader who is like "Man, that's interesting. Let me find out more about this..."

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  • Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    edited October 2006
    what exactly are you looking for when you ask about how to 'break in' to the DCU?
    I have no issues with the DCU, I love the Elseworld's stuff, but I just can't seem to maintain any sort of regular titles in that universe. I feel that stuff like Justice League/Society is too daunting because I don't know shit about the characters besides those from the cartoons. And I feel like I only purchase books on a regular basis in the DCU if it's stunt artist/writer arcs. Like right now I'm getting Batman for Morrison/Kubert, but I'm sure once their run is up, I'll not buy Batman again until they come back.
    Maybe some trade suggestions that aren't Elseworld's trades besides Infinite Crisis that take place in normal DCU continuity. I like the characters, but for some reason they can't seem to grab me to want to read about them on a monthly basis. Maybe I am broken. :oops:

    No. You don't get to do this. You by Ostranders run on it or I will a haunt you.

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  • LuxLux Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    http://www.comics101.com/archives/comics101/archives.php

    These are nice articles to help you out. Particularly the earliest ones, where they focus one one character like Daredevil or The Flash.

    Wikipedia is great, too, though if you're getting into DC you might want to read up on Crisis on Infinite Earths especially.

    And, of course, the old cartoons are the best.

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  • TerrorbyteTerrorbyte __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2006
    Lux wrote:
    http://www.comics101.com/archives/comics101/archives.php

    These are nice articles to help you out. Particularly the earliest ones, where they focus one one character like Daredevil or The Flash.

    Wikipedia is great, too, though if you're getting into DC you might want to read up on Crisis on Infinite Earths especially.

    And, of course, the old cartoons are the best.

    Oh god, yes. I was just there reading over the Wonder Woman guide. Well written, humorous explainers. A real gem of a comic book resource on the web.

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited October 2006
    They wrote a piece on Goliath back in may. Heh.

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  • JordynJordyn Really, Commander? Probing Uranus. Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    regginfreggininfinitecrisisfregginoohkettlefishoffishregginarrrrg

    Ok.


    Read Invincible.

    Then walk outside, shake your fist at the sky and shout "KIRRRRRKMAAAAAAAAAAN!"

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  • SkankPlayaSkankPlaya Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    Is it bad that I read the title of this thread and responded out loud "With your peen"? Because I did, and then proceeded to giggle about it for a little bit.

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  • CharmyCharmy Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    Terrorbyte wrote:
    The best place to start in the DCU is Starman - it's a well-written series with a unique character that touches on the foundations of the DCU.

    I've heard a lot of Starman love around here. Am I a bad person for having not enjoyed it?

    In my defense, I only ever had a chance to read the first trade. I guess it must have improved as it went on?

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  • Adaemus1sfAdaemus1sf Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    It does improve (and gets very good), but the sense of envelopment in an already existing universe can be annoying if you don't fondly remember very old comics. The nostalgia oozes out of the pages of that book, I swear. I must say though, I'm glad Whippy told me to buy it.

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