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cctex823cctex823 Registered User regular
edited September 2008 in Help / Advice Forum
Someone sent me this email, how do I respond?



What I don't understand is how so many people can support a man who was raised a muslim, father was a muslim, went to a muslim school as a small boy. Attended Chicago's United Trinity Church for over twenty years with Rev. Jeremiah Wright who Obama said was his spiritual mentor. A mentor who says our country is ruled by rich white people as opposed to what? rich black people. Wright who believes in Black Liberation Theology started by James Cone and Dwight Hopkins. Cone says Black Theology will accept only a god which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. It views all white people as racist. Rev. Wright associates himself with people like Louis Farrakhan and Omar Kadafi. Read up on Black Liberation Theology where Che Guevara Cuban mass murderer is portrayed as a Christ like figure. Che Guevara whose picture is on the wall in Obama's Houston campaign office. No wonder Obama refuses to wear the American Flag pin on his chest and put his hand on his heart during the National Anthem. Obama is obviously a supporter of marxism which believes in socialized health care, welfare, and gun control, we learn this by the mentors he has had. Obama says that people will say (republican's I guess) that he has a funny name, he's black, or his face doesn't look like any of those on the dollar bills, this sounds like racism to me in a very sneaky way. Obama also says we middle America country folk cling to our guns and religion, is this not our right as American's. So again no wonder Obama does not wear the American Flag pin or put his hand over his heart during the National Anthem. Or that his wife Michele is not proud of America until her husband had a shot at the Presidency. As Obama says "Yes We Can, Just Words, Just Speeches", I just cannot understand how a person with this background can get so much support from our fellow Americans, Americans whom I love as a Christian. Please explain.

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  • XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    tell them to make that wall into a few separate paragraphs and resubmit.

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  • SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited September 2008
    Email back '"Americans" doesn't need an apostrophe in the context you used it'

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  • DirtchamberDirtchamber Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Do some research and rebuke their claims? If you're confident in your convictions, you shouldn't need other people to provide them to you.

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  • EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    The person who sent this out won't listen to any logical arguments you have, so you'd be wasting your time. If you're feeling snarky, you can simply respond back with "Barack Obama is one of your fellow Americans, so you should love him equally as a Christian."

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  • grungeboxgrungebox Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    cctex823 wrote: »
    Someone sent me this email, how do I respond?



    What I don't understand is how so many people can support a man who was raised a muslim, father was a muslim, went to a muslim school as a small boy. Attended Chicago's United Trinity Church for over twenty years with Rev. Jeremiah Wright who Obama said was his spiritual mentor. A mentor who says our country is ruled by rich white people as opposed to what? rich black people. Wright who believes in Black Liberation Theology started by James Cone and Dwight Hopkins. Cone says Black Theology will accept only a god which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. It views all white people as racist. Rev. Wright associates himself with people like Louis Farrakhan and Omar Kadafi. Read up on Black Liberation Theology where Che Guevara Cuban mass murderer is portrayed as a Christ like figure. Che Guevara whose picture is on the wall in Obama's Houston campaign office. No wonder Obama refuses to wear the American Flag pin on his chest and put his hand on his heart during the National Anthem. Obama is obviously a supporter of marxism which believes in socialized health care, welfare, and gun control, we learn this by the mentors he has had. Obama says that people will say (republican's I guess) that he has a funny name, he's black, or his face doesn't look like any of those on the dollar bills, this sounds like racism to me in a very sneaky way. Obama also says we middle America country folk cling to our guns and religion, is this not our right as American's. So again no wonder Obama does not wear the American Flag pin or put his hand over his heart during the National Anthem. Or that his wife Michele is not proud of America until her husband had a shot at the Presidency. As Obama says "Yes We Can, Just Words, Just Speeches", I just cannot understand how a person with this background can get so much support from our fellow Americans, Americans whom I love as a Christian. Please explain.

    There was a pretty good article in Salon recently about how political beliefs trigger the "emotional response" part of the brain rather than the "reasoning/rational analysis" part. Also, the article notes that people have an inherent lack of awareness for their own political misgivings; that's why Swift Boating works. Once you get the basic idea, no matter how baseless, in a person's head, it takes a lot to undo that. Basically, you're probably better off not wasting time on this.

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  • ben0207ben0207 Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Tell him that today is opposite day.

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  • reminderGTOreminderGTO Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Send an email back with the following 'rumors':


    From: [Redacted]
    To: [Redacted]
    Subject: WHO IS BARACK OBAMA?

    There are many things people do not know about BARACK OBAMA. It is every American's duty to read this message and pass it along to all of their friends and loved ones.

    Barack Obama wears a FLAG PIN at all times. Even in the shower.

    Barack Obama goes to church every morning. He goes to church every afternoon. He goes to church every evening. He is IN CHURCH RIGHT NOW.

    Barack Obama's new airplane includes a conference room, a kitchen, and a MEGACHURCH.

    Barack Obama's skin is the color of AMERICAN SOIL.

    Barack Obama buys AMERICAN STUFF. He owns a FORD, a BASEBALL TEAM, and a COMPUTER HE BUILT HIMSELF FROM AMERICAN PARTS. He travels mostly by FORKLIFT.

    Barack Obama says that Americans cling to GUNS and RELIGION because they are AWESOME.

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  • The Crowing OneThe Crowing One Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    You don't respond. No rational conversation is born from an irrational and emotional plea that is based in ignorance and falls back upon misinformation.

    Sometimes I feel as if we should institute a national voting exam. You must be "this" stable to help choose who gets their hands on our nuke codes. But, alas, we love and cherish our right to take part in the country's most prestigious contest for homecoming queen.

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  • mugginnsmugginns Jawsome Fresh CoastRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Just delete it. These are chain letters that are sent out by people and forwarded a ton.

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  • WillethWilleth Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Dear Sir,

    Don't vote for him, then.

    Yours, Tex

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  • CrashtardCrashtard Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    mugginns wrote: »
    Just delete it. These are chain letters that are sent out by people and forwarded a ton.


    Also, block this person's email address. I warn everyone, even my friends, one time: do NOT send me forwards. I don't want to deal with that sort of stupidity, so don't send it.

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  • ErandusErandus Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    As him if he's so bigoted that a person having "muslim" influences in their history automatically disqualifies the person from being President. Should we make the office of POTUS Christian only? Have radical Islamists tainted his view of the religion as a whole so much that he now fears and hates all muslims?

    Also, read even the wiki article on Che Guevara and then ask this guy some basic questions about him. Does he even know anything about him aside from that he was "Cuban" and that he's on a lot of t-shirts now? Any substance about him aside from "Cubans are commies!"?

    It's also simplicity itself to find pictures of Obama both with his hand on his heart and wearing American flag pins. Again, if flag pins are so "required" by politicians these days, why do we not just make them part of the dress code? I can be extremely patriotic without a crappy little enamel pin that was probably made in China anyway. Additionally, placing your hand on your heart has never been part of the tradition of the national anthem. All that has ever been "proper" for the anthem is standing and removing your hat. It's the pledge of allegiance that "requires" hand on heart.

    "Marxism" is wildly different from believing in socalized health care.

    Alternately, delete the email, cause you can't really win with people like this. They'll believe what they want to. Personally, I love the debate, but it's easy for it to get out of hand and you're really not likely to drastically change anyone's world views.

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  • PolloDiabloPolloDiablo Registered User regular
    edited September 2008

    Barack Obama's skin is the color of AMERICAN SOIL.

    He travels mostly by FORKLIFT.

    I think these ones are pretty great. But, yeah, OP, delete it and cut this guy out of your life. At no point in his rambling, incoherent response was he even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought.

    But, since you realize he is ignorant, here are my simple key phrases to remember:

    Obama is not other people. Outward signs of patriotism are not the same thing as patriotism. Obama is not other people. Holy shit, he's black, did anyone else notice? Uh, sure, it's your right to cling to things. You seem to agree, so what's the problem? Again, Obama is not other people. And, you can't understand because you're not a very understanding person.

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  • Sir CarcassSir Carcass I have been shown the end of my world Round Rock, TXRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Do some research and rebuke their claims? If you're confident in your convictions, you shouldn't need other people to provide them to you.

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  • DenadaDenada Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    At no point in his rambling, incoherent response was he even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought.

    Sweet Billy Madison reference. :wink:

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  • RUNN1NGMANRUNN1NGMAN Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Email back, "Barack Obama has fathered two black children!!!!!"

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  • MrMonroeMrMonroe passed out on the floor nowRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Just send them here, and politely ask them not to rumormonger against a perfectly honorable man.

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  • archonwarparchonwarp Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    MrMonroe wrote: »
    Just send them here, and politely ask them not to rumormonger against a perfectly honorable man.


    Good find, I'm forwarding this to my annoying relatives.

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  • DocDoc Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited September 2008
    tell them "I am voting for him just to piss you off."

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  • SammyFSammyF Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Doc wrote: »
    tell them "I am voting for him just to piss you off."

    Better yet, phone bank for the Obama campaign, or take a weekend and come to a battleground state to canvass. The great thing about these emails that they send out is that they're usually sent out by an idiot kool-aide drinker to the rest of his idiot kool-aide drinking friends, who tend to live in states populated by similar idiot kool-aide drinkers (I note that you live in Texas). Occassionally innocent bystanders like yourself get caught in the crossfire. If you go to BarackObama.com, you can find information about calling swing voters who live in swing states--you know, the people who actually get to decide who wins and loses on election day!

    There's no point wasting your time with unpersuadable voters. Volunteering to talk to voters who haven't made up their minds yet is a great way to get back at the chain-letter sender and elect a President who will bring the change we need to Washington.

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  • mugginnsmugginns Jawsome Fresh CoastRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Is this a recruiting thread

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  • OctoparrotOctoparrot Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Well, since he's a 'Christian' , he's obviously been duped into working for the satanists, by spreading these rumors about Obama. You should try to inform him of the truth, if he'll even listen. If you've ever been to a black church, Wright is pretty standard fare.

    Now, McCain means son of Cain, and any good Christian knows that the descendents of Cain (remember Cain was known- and punished for his violent ways and short temper) seek revenge against the descendents of Adam. Clearly, electing McCain will help bring about Armageddon.

    Plus give him some of that "Manchurian Candidate" talk, remember McCain has been completely against legislation to help POWs. Very strange...

    I won't even go into the theological proofs that his white hair and pale skin means he clearly no longer has a soul.

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    How about you just let it go? Even if this guy was personally aiming it at you, there's no reason to respond. Be a mature individual and move on with your life, instead of looking for a way to win this "argument" and feel superior.

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  • badpoetbadpoet Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    cctex823 wrote: »
    Someone sent me this email, how do I respond?

    A simple "Fuck you, moron" should suffice.

    Why bother arguing with people who have the IQ of a retarded 5th grader?

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  • JebusUDJebusUD Adventure! Candy IslandRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    badpoet wrote: »
    Why bother arguing with people who have the IQ of a retarded 5th grader?

    Because these people still have the ability to vote.

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  • SheepSheep Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2008
    I think you should probably correct him where he's wrong and nicely explain to him about not believing everything repeated to him.

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  • Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    The best response to this is sending ridiculous things in return. At least you wind up with a laugh.

    Alternatively, send'em a link to fightthesmears.com.

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  • KalkinoKalkino Buttons Londres Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Send him that good old Mad Revisionist link

    http://www.revisionism.nl/Moon/The-Mad-Revisionist.htm

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