google's dream...apple's nightmare?
johyongil
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sosososo......is anyone interested in the G1 "Dream" from Google/Android??? or does no one care?
Personally....very excited...
http://code.google.com/android/adc_gallery/
^^^ how can you NOT get excited after seeing that??? especially if your bound by contract to tmob and/or don't want to switch companies just cuz you want the iphone?
Personally....very excited...
http://code.google.com/android/adc_gallery/
^^^ how can you NOT get excited after seeing that??? especially if your bound by contract to tmob and/or don't want to switch companies just cuz you want the iphone?
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Without buying a data plan.
I'm interested.
Pretty sweet if you ask me. Competition is great for the customers.
Eh, I'm not so sold on it yet, actually. I was really looking forward to it, but today, finding out it only has 1GB of storage internally....
...that, and the interface is a little choppy...
...eh, we'll see.
Everything else, I like. In theory, it's perfect. In theory.
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If you ask me, 200 dollars for an iPhone is pretty fucking competitive. Hell, I feel like I got my money's worth when I paid 400.
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There's one phone on Verizon or something where the home screen has an icon layout like the iPhone, but it looks like someone threw them on the screen. They're all off center and crooked. I don't know what they were going for but it looked pretty shitty to me. Maybe I'll get a google phone someday, but for now my iPhone is just peachy.
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I've tested that phone, and you're right. And those vomited icons are actually in a screen that's laid over most of the stuff you'd actually want to get to, giving you an unnecessary extra step.
That's the LG Dare, and it is supposedly an awesome phone. I plan on getting one when my discount comes up. The icons that are all askew are that way to show that you can rearrange your layout however you want to. There is also a basic grid home screen. There is also the Samsung Glyde which has a grid layout touch but with slide out QWERTY keyboard.
The Blackberry Storm looks to be a big competitor too. Especially for those iPhone users who want decent push and enterprise support.
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I do like how Tmobile lets you get voice+ data/sms for $55/month ($30 for lowest voiceplan + 25 for lowest data/sms plan). I hope this prompts ATT to let me drop my $75 plan on the iphone down to something a little more reasonable (probably not).
Oh also, I noticed this when I was debating the iphone 3g, but I wish there was a rundown on the quality of browsers in all these "smart" phones. I have a friend with some shitty Samsung phone on VZW that has such a shitty browser it's almost worthless. Do the Dare and Instinct and similar cheaper phones actually have full HTML browsers that render properly and zoom flawlessly?
no headphone jack? no multitouch? that all depend on which android loaded phone you get, don't it?
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They have full HTML browsing, however the rendering and zooming I do not know since I don't have any hands on with either of them.
I do. And they're pretty spotty. Some sites look great, others are a big ole mess.
Yeah, people are mostly talking about the first phone that was announced today that will be using it, the HTC Dream/T-Mobile G1. As far as multitouch, supposedly its capable of multitouch, it's just not implemented, which may have to do with stupid Apple.
It's Java-based, but that's not the problem. It's the application architecture overall, with an awfully painful implementation of passing state between screens. For example, if I have a screen that invokes another screen, I have no guarantee that my first screen will be around when I exit out of the second screen.
Furthermore, when changing screens you essentially have to manually serialize all the screen's state that you want to keep around. In other words, your screens aren't really stack based. They're their own little entities where only the current screen is guaranteed not to be garbage collected. Pretty clunky overall. And that's only 1 of my gripes (there's a few more).
Granted, this was back in Feb.-Mar. or so of this year, so hopefully the SDK has come a long way. However, I have a feeling the general architecture probably hasn't been changed as drastically as myself and others would like.
TL;DR - The SDK is wonky, so I'll be curious as to how strong the 3rd-party market for the phone will be.
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Yep.
iPhone's lack of MMS really makes me want a new phone.
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I quite like the HTC Touch Diamond I have..
I do find it really absurd that my wife and I have unlimited data and text and all that but if we want to send a funny picture or something we have to go through email. Such a pain. That's probably my only complaint about the iPhone. Fucking apple.
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Excuse my curiousity, but what do people use MMS for? Can't you just email whatever photo you need someone to be able to see?
I have the same curiosity. I rarely used MMS on my Blackjack; on my iPhone it seems mostly pointless to me. I mean, I don't even really use email for that sort of stuff, just one of the bazillion social networking apps.
It would be a lot quicker to text an image than email it. And sometimes the images don't load or even send through the iPhone's mail setup (using gmail).
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Depends on the phone/carrier I think. Another reason I don't use it.
Also, only 1 gig of internal memory!? come on.
Is it decided what hardware will house it? What quality camera? Size etc.?
See, that's just it. Android isn't a single phone; it's an OS intended for any phone to be able to use, for anybody to develop for. It would open up the third-party mobile software market and allow consumers to pick out their own phone apps (as opposed to the current structure, where the carrier controls one's ability to use apps).
http://www.t-mobileg1.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Dream
Yea, as noted above, this is just the first phone that uses it (and presumably the only one you can get this year).
the point to to the googlephone is android (the OS) and that its hardware independent.
except that android is able to be crippled by the carrier, for instance, T-Mobile is making it so that you cannot use certain apps with the G1 (such as VOIP).
most of my friends don't have email on the go. but they have MMS on the go.
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I guess my brain isn't thinking along that metric. When I think phone I think the hardware, albeit my affinity for Sony Ericsson's UI.
things I hate about iphone list is pretty short, but they're so huge to me it has me looking for alternatives.
1. no MMS
2. no Video
3. I get no message from AT&T when I get an MMS from a friend. so when my friends send me a MMS I never know it. atleast it should tell me I have an MMS in the inbox. AT&T is already set up for off the phone MMS browsing. why the fuck they're not extending this service to iphone I do not know.
#2 is being fixed as we speak by jailbreaking and downloading a unauthorised app. soon it will have youtube and email support so I have a way to transfer it off the iphone. #2 will be non issue.
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