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Well, looks like my wang is on strike.

Angry_PotatoAngry_Potato Registered User regular
edited September 2008 in Help / Advice Forum
Alt here. Howdoyado?

Well, it would appear that my penis is angry at me.

I've been dating this women for well over 11 months, and things have been going absolutely great. She's funny, smart, and dropdead gorgeous as well (actually was a suicidegirl for awhile). We're both 21, enrolled in college, and we generally have a great time with one another. But enough with the rosey stuff.

When it comes to sex, you could say I'm unpredictable. Sometimes, my dick will just refuse to cooperate. We've had sex maybe 11 or 12 times now (we didn't actually have intercourse until about month 10 of the relationship), and it has either been really shakey or really good. Sometimes I won't be able to maintain an erection, or if I'm not using a condom, I tend to climax too quickly (yes, I know, use a condom always, gotcha - she is on birthcontrol, nothing came out of it, I'll never do it again, don't bother mentioning it). We've had sessions where I have blown her mind (to the point of where she wouldn't stop talking about it for a few days), and sessions where I have totally bombed and left her frustrated.

Keep in mind that this is the first physical relationship I've had with a girl. Yes, I'm 21, and I understand that is an abnormality in our culture. No, I am not some sort of horrendous troll man or am obsessively obese or something. I'm not a bad looking guy, and I've had a number of sexual opportunities since I was 16. However, I had no urge to pursue them until now.

Initially, I thought that my sexual frustration stemmed from having an abusive-suicidal-alcoholic mother with Borderline Personality Disorder (there's Freud for you), but after going to a few counseling sessions offered by my school, they told me that I was incredibly well-adjusted and that my past circumstances didn't seem to have much of a lasting affect on me. So, I sort of ruled that out, but who knows?

I've noticed that when we're about to have sex, I almost dread it - not that I hate having sex with a gorgeous woman. I look forward to it. But I just get wrapped up in, "Oh shit, am I going to get there too quick? What if it's terrible? What if blahblahblahblah" - and I hate that. If I'm guilty of anything, it's overanalyzing and overthinking things. So I'm fairly certain that my ED is purely psychological (as I've maintained good healthy erections for an extended period of time).

My question is this - how the hell do I get around my overthinking this sex thing? Do I drink some wine? Put on some Barry White? Pinch my nipples really hard? Do you guys have any tips for "getting in the zone", because I'd really just like to be able to consistently perform and be an average, normal, healthy young adult.

Thanks for your time.

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  • ShogunShogun Hair long; money long; me and broke wizards we don't get along Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Do you guys do a lot of foreplay?

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  • Angry_PotatoAngry_Potato Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Shogun wrote: »
    Do you guys do a lot of foreplay?

    Yep. In fact, that one really good session I noted above involved me giving her a full body rub. Oils, candles, all that stuff. It really worked for me, and I told her that.

    However, she doesn't really like the fact that it takes me that long to "get ready". She's really into spontaneous sex. For example, she's told me that one of her big fantasies is for me to "take her" while she's cooking in the kitchen and have her on the kitchen table (which, by the way, is totally improbable - she doesn't cook. I doubt she'd even know which end of the pot to hold).

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  • GrundlterrorGrundlterror Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    You have anxiety, just chill man. As long as this girl doesn't have a huge problem with it you'll relax and open up. A couple of options for ya:

    A) Drink some (not much). This will make you think less about it.

    B) Start small, don't go for it all at once. Hands > Mouth > Vagina. Get comfortable at each step before moving onto the next.

    C) Realize there is nothing wrong with you, you just think about it too much. Eventually everything will fall into place.

    I was basically in the exact same situation as you, and now I'm fine so don't fret. Do you take antidepressants at all? That was my main problem, then I got off them and just had the anxiety... and then I got over the anxiety.

    Good luck man.

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  • Limp mooseLimp moose Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    your focusing way to much on you and not enough on her. (mentally at least)

    Instead of worrying about not lasting long enough or not getting it up ect. Focus on pleasing her. Give her a massage, go down on her, finger her, make entirely sure she is getting off. By then you will be so excited and horny you shouldn't have any trouble getting it on. And even if you only last 5 minutes she won't be laying there waiting for an orgasm that isnt coming.

    Also remember this is all in your head. Really just stop worrying about it. (easier said then done I know) but focus on something else and it does become easy. And its really not a big deal if you do cum to early. Just say wow you are awesome give me 5 minutes and we can go again. Its nothing to be ashamed of. All men are not monster porn stars with rock hard cocks 24/7

    You are very very normal. Hot girls make most guys blow their load early. That just means you get to have more orgasms faster. (trust me its better than the alternative of not being able to climax cause the chick is ugly)

    Foreplay at least 10 minutes, 20 minutes is better. (your times may vary but if you are just looking for guidlines these can help.

    If none of that works get some of those urge suppressing condoms. They make them for a reason and they should help (i personally have never used them but i have heard good things from people that needed them)

    But mainly dude just relax. Your boning a hot chick. Its supposed to be fun. Stop filling your mind with worry dread and shame and just look at how great her boobies are and smile.

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  • ShogunShogun Hair long; money long; me and broke wizards we don't get along Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Instead of worrying about whether or not it will be bad think only of her. Focus and concentrate solely on the girl.

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  • maximumzeromaximumzero I...wait, what? New Orleans, LARegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    And in the end if you find you can't perform to satisfy her, you have to remember that there are other ways to satisfy her than with your wang.

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  • Angry_PotatoAngry_Potato Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    You have anxiety, just chill man. As long as this girl doesn't have a huge problem with it you'll relax and open up. A couple of options for ya:

    A) Drink some (not much). This will make you think less about it.

    B) Start small, don't go for it all at once. Hands > Mouth > Vagina. Get comfortable at each step before moving onto the next.

    C) Realize there is nothing wrong with you, you just think about it too much. Eventually everything will fall into place.

    I was basically in the exact same situation as you, and now I'm fine so don't fret. Do you take antidepressants at all? That was my main problem, then I got off them and just had the anxiety... and then I got over the anxiety.

    Good luck man.

    Nah, not anti-depressants of any kind. I just have a brain that runs constantly at full-throttle, which while good for my particular profession, can make my personal life a bit Hellish.

    By the way, if I can make a slightly off-topic comment, kudos to you for owning your anxiety problem. I have a great deal of respect for anyone who can beat a problem without having to use a pill as an extended crutch.

    But I will try out that drinking suggestions. Maybe some red wine or something.

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  • GrundlterrorGrundlterror Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Remember, a little bit. Because while I have overcome my anxiety (thank you btw) I still have some problems when I'm wasted.

    Then again, I really like to drink so my wasted is quite wasted :)

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  • Limp mooseLimp moose Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    if you want a drink that will relax you i have a couple of suggestions.

    A gin and tonic (or vodka if you prefer) will do 2 things the booze will relax you and the tonic will settle your stomach (sometimes nerves can upset people's guts which is bad when you are naked and close to someone else)

    A light chilled white wine. pinot grigio or Rieslings. In fact unless you have a well developed palet I recommend the brand Relax in the blue bottle. Girls tend to really like it and its sweet. Split a bottle with her, hell drink it off of her.

    Don't have more than 3 or 4 drinks though as this can lead to a total inability to get it up and that is just frustrating as all hell.

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  • GrundlterrorGrundlterror Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Limp moose wrote: »
    Don't have more than 3 or 4 drinks though as this can lead to a total inability to get it up and that is just frustrating as all hell.

    QFT! And Limp moose just sounds like a source you can trust on this issue :P

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  • Angry_PotatoAngry_Potato Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Limp moose wrote: »
    if you want a drink that will relax you i have a couple of suggestions.

    A gin and tonic (or vodka if you prefer) will do 2 things the booze will relax you and the tonic will settle your stomach (sometimes nerves can upset people's guts which is bad when you are naked and close to someone else)

    A light chilled white wine. pinot grigio or Rieslings. In fact unless you have a well developed palet I recommend the brand Relax in the blue bottle. Girls tend to really like it and its sweet. Split a bottle with her, hell drink it off of her.

    Don't have more than 3 or 4 drinks though as this can lead to a total inability to get it up and that is just frustrating as all hell.

    Ahhh, Whiskey Dick. I am fully aware of the horror stories.

    And God damn, you guys are all quick on the draw. Thanks for the flood of helpful advice.

    As for the alternatives to wang-on-funhole intercourse, we've fooled around many times and I seem to have no problems there. She is happy with my handiwork (a nice boon from being a bandgeek) and is very, very pleased with my oral skills (again, see bandgeek). Whenever we fool around, I have no problem getting an erection - it's just when it comes to sex that I choke.

    But I'm going to try out all this different stuff as soon as I get a chance. I'll keep you guys posted.

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  • Limp mooseLimp moose Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    man if i had a dollar for every time i was in a hotel bathroom pleading with my dick to get hard at 3am because i had drank the better part of a bottle of whiskey.... (note pep talks to your penis have been found to work about 20% of the time)

    One other thing i forgot to mention was that you should also communicate to her that she makes you nervous and that it is out of a desire to please her that you sometimes feel intimidated and worried. Tell her to try and relax you and get you in the mood sometimes. (IE if you are rubbing her down with massage oils and candles she could be returning the favor)

    at least try and make her understand that this is new territory for you and that you are an apt pupil and willing to learn.

    Experience and practice will solve this problem in a week or 2 man. Have no worries.

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  • GrundlterrorGrundlterror Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Question: When you guys start out, what position do you normally start in? Because I found it easier for the first few times until I got my confidence up to start missionary. We tried with her on top first and that didn't work out.

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  • Angry_PotatoAngry_Potato Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Question: When you guys start out, what position do you normally start in? Because I found it easier for the first few times until I got my confidence up to start missionary. We tried with her on top first and that didn't work out.

    Well, depends because we switch it up. She has been on top more often than I have as she seems to be better able to position herself, which I'm fine with. While I enjoy the view very much, the way her bed is built doesn't give her a lot of motion downstairs, which leaves me a little numb to the whole experience. But if we do it on the floor or someplace more firm, it works out better.

    We've tried on a chair, but that didn't work for me. Spooning works out, and we've tried that on more than a few times. The one time I tried missionary, I just lost interest halfway through it because that goddamn bed is so hard to move on. It's one of those Temperpedic(sp?) Swedish Foam pads. Feels like trying to fuck in a gymnastic foam pit.

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  • GrundlterrorGrundlterror Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Try to figure out a way to start in missionary, I think that might help a lot.

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  • i n c u b u si n c u b u s Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    You have anxiety, just chill man. As long as this girl doesn't have a huge problem with it you'll relax and open up. A couple of options for ya:

    A) Drink some (not much). This will make you think less about it.

    B) Start small, don't go for it all at once. Hands > Mouth > Vagina. Get comfortable at each step before moving onto the next.

    C) Realize there is nothing wrong with you, you just think about it too much. Eventually everything will fall into place.

    I was basically in the exact same situation as you, and now I'm fine so don't fret. Do you take antidepressants at all? That was my main problem, then I got off them and just had the anxiety... and then I got over the anxiety.

    Good luck man.
    This actually works, every once in a while if I'm not really wanting to and she is I'll down a tall glass of jager and redbull and it gets me good to go. It's good enough to take your mind slightly off of what your actually doing but at the same time leaves you still conscious of whats going on and able to enjoy it. If your not into the idea then there are techniques that can help you with maintaining like focusing on your breathing, counting in your head, etc but alcohol is pretty much the easy way out of this one (not that I'd condone getting drunk in a situation like that).

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  • Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I had a similar problem when I started having sex with my current girlfriend, and it was all in my head. I wasn't even worried about my performance (because she is so easy to get off that i could probably poke her in the eye and produce an orgasm, not because I am a stallion), but I was worried about how compatible we'd really be and whether I was just rebounding from a previous infatuation.

    When I realized that I really did like her and it was going very well, I had no problems. Until then, if I was only halfway to bonertown, I would usually go for it anyways because penetrative sex brought me to a full erection very quickly. The trick there is making sure you have the condom on properly.

    Other thing I found: I found it much more arousing to do foreplay when she was sitting up or kneeling, so I could see the movement of her body more than when she was lying down. That's a huge turn on for me; if you can find something like this, just a simple switch in position can drastically affect how easily you get turned on.

    Also, of course, if you hold off on masturbating when she's not around, you're far more likely to pop a raging boner, with the downside that you'll probably finish quicker as well. Masturbating the morning before you see her results in the opposite. What I'm saying is, jerking is like a penis_edit.exe that lets you roughly customize your performance.

    Hope some of that will be helpful.

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  • SarcastroSarcastro Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Energy drinks can be fun indeed.

    You mentioned BPD- this can come in all shape and sizes from being a typical dual-core Virgo, to literally switching in and out of different performance modes.

    This... is going to sound weird. Do you ever feel like theres a part of you locked away in a cage? That theres an alternate method of being that makes you stronger, more psychologically capable? Are you scared of it, or what it might do?

    Occasionally people with BPD or close approximations to it, have a sexual way of being that they are worried about, or feel might be inappropriate. At the same time though, a lot of their fantasies and sexual drives are held within that part. Organizing the two (or more, but lets just say two for simplicities sake) states of mind to work together can be tricky.

    Just from what it sounds like, you require a lot of revving in order for your body to be aroused. In people with multiple states, that arousal helps break down the barriers between states, so that the inner, tucked away self can come forward and get what it wants from the situation. Basically, it shuts down the highbrain and kicks in the lowbrain, the instinctual, grittier side of what is otherwise a very tightly controlled personality.

    If this is the case, you don't need to have the arousal if you can find the 'switch', the part of you that gives out and lets that state, that alternate way of thinking and feeling come into play. You can certainly play in co-op mode, smoothly transition between ways of thinking, or go all out on one side or the other.

    All conjecture of course, but its pretty common in borderline personality issues to have one's sexuality compartmentalized into different functions, a natural way (for that person) to deal with those thoughts and physical responses. Its kinda weird to speak of 'teamwork' in regards to one's own self, but essentially thats the gist of it. Live together, work together, play together.

    Give me a PM sometime if this sounds like it could be you, I've done a fair amount of work in this area.

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  • CasualCasual Wiggle Wiggle Wiggle Flap Flap Flap Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Text book case of performance anxiety man. I'd guess its simply because you're still new to it and it's still a big deal to you. As you have sex more it'll become less and less this big event that you have to excel at and more a regular thing. Once that goes you'll be fine, it's just because you're a late starter and you think you don't think you have enough experience for the age you are, I was exactly the same. It doesn't help that you have a great girl and feel a massive need to impress her but I'm assuming she knows that you're new to this so she isnt expecting miracles from you. Important thing is take things slow don't go in there with massive expectations of yourself and RELAX. The more you do it the easier it gets.

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  • wasted pixelswasted pixels Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Get her off before you have sex. I'm serious. Fingers, oral, toys, whatever does it for her. That way, even if you are a one-minute-wonder, you won't care: you already "got the job done". And having that weight off your shoulders will reduce your overall anxiety, making it easier for you to get it up (and to keep it up longer).

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  • DixonDixon Screwed...possibly doomed CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Man oh man I know how you feel man, for my fist physical relationship, I was 17 and I have a similiar problem where my brain just doesn`t know how to shut off. It gives me problems all the time, not just sex but like air planes stuff like that. Anyway, eventually it just went it away for me after like a solid month of sex pretty much every day, I found that the first time left a stigma in my brain and that was the problem. After that before sex I would get all panicky and sometimes feel nauseous it was so bad.

    Things I did to help was drink a little, this just helps your brain slow down
    There is no point in someone telling you to stop thinking about it because you can`t....so what I did was just read up on the internet (like your doing now) for ways of coming around this even if they have no reason to work it gives you that placebo effect where it helps you mentally which is where the problem roots from.

    Also shooting one off like an hour before (if possible) helps

    EDIT: Now I am 20 and have no problem with this sorta thing so it gets better for sure

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  • TrentusTrentus Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    She is happy with my handiwork (a nice boon from being a bandgeek) and is very, very pleased with my oral skills (again, see bandgeek).

    I sometimes think that if I'd learned french horn instead of the sax, I could apply those skills in other areas of my life...

    I like to think that music and sex are rather similar, in that both require rhythm, timing, a bit of improvisation here and there, a dexterous tongue and fingers (some girls go crazy at the mere mention of flutter tongue), and passion. Also in that practising scales alone is never as much fun as trading fours around a band. So because of your band-geekdom, that pretty much automatically makes you a sex god.

    I think the only advice I can give is just have fun. If there's anything that quashed my sexual anxieties, it was that. Sex is something you should rarely ever take seriously, and something that should be laughed at and joked about often.

    Say you're watching star wars together. Pounce on her and growl like a tauntaun, get her laughing, happy and smiling, then start making the moves. But keep up the humour. Take off her pants, work your way down then yell "It's a trap!" and leap away (and then back again, obviously). The more you're both giggling, and genuinely having fun, the more comfortable and confident you're going to feel when doing the deed.

    The example may be a little extreme, but you get the idea. Just relax and don't be afraid to have a laugh or two. If you make her giggle and smile even once while you're getting intimate then you will have set things in motion for a night of hot, steamy fun. Now go forth, and unleash your inner sex god!

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  • ceresceres When the last moon is cast over the last star of morning And the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited September 2008
    Sarcastro wrote: »
    You mentioned BPD- this can come in all shape and sizes from being a typical dual-core Virgo, to literally switching in and out of different performance modes.
    I think he said it was his mom who had BPD.

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  • TrowizillaTrowizilla Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Trentus wrote: »
    Say you're watching star wars together. Pounce on her and growl like a tauntaun, get her laughing, happy and smiling, then start making the moves. But keep up the humour. Take off her pants, work your way down then yell "It's a trap!" and leap away (and then back again, obviously). The more you're both giggling, and genuinely having fun, the more comfortable and confident you're going to feel when doing the deed.

    That is so adorable, I'm going to try it on my boyfriend.

    Tickle fights are also ripe for turning into sexy-time, btw.

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  • JebusUDJebusUD Adventure! Candy IslandRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    you have only had sex just over ten times. No wonder you are freaking out! Eventually you will get used to it and chill out a little. Just concentrate on not worrying. Right now you are too inside your own head. The more you worry it will happen the more it will happen.

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  • adamadam Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Don't worry I emailed her this link. That should solve it.

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  • edited September 2008
    I've been dating this women for well over 11 months, and things have been going absolutely great. She's funny, smart, and dropdead gorgeous as well (actually was a suicidegirl for awhile).

    Which suicide girl?

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  • oncelingonceling Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    You can satisfy her need to be taken spontaneously by either prepping yourself beforehand using masturbation, or making the event just about her pleasure and not using intercourse. I think she'll prefer the former though. Alternatively, if she does anything that can make you hard without needing manual stimulation like wearing provocative outfits or cooking naked or whatever, just share that with her and I'll bet she'll be more than happy to oblige in order to satisfy her need to be 'taken'.

    Trust me ;)

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  • SG MahonaySG Mahonay Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Your social commentary made me laugh, in a good way.

    Sounds like a combination of anxiety and inexperience. The SAME things used to run through my head before I started having sex consistently. As the years went on and I got more experience those problems went away. Practice makes perfect bud. Just work on it and it will get better.

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  • QorzmQorzm Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    one of her big fantasies is for me to "take her" while she's cooking in the kitchen and have her on the kitchen table (which, by the way, is totally improbable - she doesn't cook.
    This last bit made me laugh out loud, but not in an insulting way.

    Try just doing one night where your goal is to put all of your attention on her, similar to the body rub, but don't even worry about your penis. Your goal is to turn her on and pleasure her as much as possible, and through doing that, your penis might get very excited.

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