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Is WOW beginning to die out?

D-BoyD-Boy Registered User new member
edited September 2008 in Games and Technology
To players, one of the most appealing features of MMORPGs is the massive community in the game world. In this virtual atmosphere, you can meet people from every corner of the earth and grind out levels for hours… but eventually we will tire. And that brings us to today’s topic – is the most successful massive multiplayer role-playing game, Blizzard’s epic World of Warcraft becoming less massive?

WOW has more than 10 million subscribers round the world. But this huge population is divided into countless servers, which “effectively” reduces the game community size. Moreover, WOW’s enormous landmass, which was highly appreciated by the players, now has begun to show its flaw. The players are scattered in the huge maps, reducing population density. The new influx of new players is starting to decline and the veterans are all stick to high-level regions.

When I started my WOW journey recently, omg… it felt like wandering round a ghost town. As most of players are either grinding in the dungeons or on the way to the dungeons, my newborn Belf paladin can hardly meet someone for help. It was more or less the same as playing a single player RPG to me.

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Now people all talk about WOW killers. Players are all looking forward to a MMO with revolutionary graphics and gameplay which can liberate them from their burnout of WOW. However, I consider that to a MMO, the massive community is more critical than the graphics and gameplay. If you’re being critical of graphics and gameplay in MMOs, it may indicate that you’re tiring of this genre. I mean let’s face it, if you take the MMO out of MMORPG, that’s 50% of your processing power saved, and with single player RPGs can always outperform MMOs when it comes to complex storyline quests, submersive roleplaying and gameplay speed (no connection to wait for, right?). Maybe we should try out other games instead.

At their core, MMOs are about sociality and communication. For those F2P MMOs, though their graphics and gameplay can’t compare to WOW, the size of their community, high population density, ability to customize yourself are pretty good. Players can also enjoy the engaging MMO atmosphere elsewhere. Just look at [UL], the Chinese style F2P MMO. As published 5 years ago, its 2.5D graphics are outdated. But when you enter in the main towns of the game, you can immediately see players all chatting, trading and dancing. Players can meet people from different parts of the world, quest together, go PK noobs or join in guild wars. This is a real MMORPG.
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It is my first post here. Hopefully you like it and please share your opinions:lol::winky:

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  • halkunhalkun Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Isn't this what the MMOE subforum is for?

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  • HozHoz Cool Cat Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    If an MMO has 10 million subscribers and the early zones are empty, well, that seems like a good thing to me. It means people don't stop playing it.

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  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Belongs in the MMO forum, but the answer is still no. At worst, it's not beginning to die out, it's starting to grow less. The amount of people you see is totally dependent on your choice of server, and admittedly you won't see very many when there are like six teams of 25 man raids all down in dungeons.

    Also the expansion's coming out soon which will just explode the game all over again.

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  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Short answer: No.


    Long answer: Nope.


    It hasn't decreased in active subscribers since release and is now on 12 million.

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    edited September 2008
    no

    message too short

    definitely no

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  • JediNightJediNight Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    That sure is a real MMO. I've always wanted to stand around in the middle of a town standing on top of a fuckton of people so I can't see or read anything. Generic fonts are sweet too...

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  • theantipoptheantipop Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    At this point, if you don't have a friend willing to play with you and help you out, you're going to feel alone until you power your way near the level cap. This is what you get for stepping into a 4 year old MMO with 3 continents and 9 major cities.

    Anyway, you shouldn't need help with anything since patch after patch has nerfed the crap out of lowbie content while pumping up rewards and speeding up leveling. 1-60 is a goddamn joke.

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  • EvilBadmanEvilBadman DO NOT TRUST THIS MAN Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    So, your major complaint is there isn't overpopulation in those starting areas, knowing full well that you're playing the game 3 years after launch? Or that the landmass is simply ridiculous as opposed to some older games? Or That there's too many servers and you want 1000000 people on a server?

    Those all sound incredibly stupid and short sighted.

    Also, get to Outland and hang around Shattrath if you want people to bog down your screen.

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  • HerrCronHerrCron It that wickedly supports taxation Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    EvilBadman wrote: »
    Also, get to Outland and hang around Shattrath if you want people to bog down your screen.

    Ohh LagTrath, how i loath thee.

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  • JediNightJediNight Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    The server list tells you how full the servers are. So pick one that says High or Full?

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  • Dr.ObliviousDr.Oblivious Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    Short answer: No.


    Long answer: Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

    Message fixed for ZP reference.

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  • Agent--006Agent--006 Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    To be honest I would also like to see an increase in the player capacity for each realm, but I guess there are technical limitations. I would also like to see cross realm PVE instances - like the battlegrounds - especially for lower level content!

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  • Lord JezoLord Jezo Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    If that "empty" screenshot is from you actually playing why is there a watermark on it on the bottom right?

    Anyone think this is cleverly disguised spam for the mmo he linked as being awesome?

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  • X3x3nonX3x3non Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I actually agree with him. I having been playing the game casually on and off since two years ago. Back then there was certainly more chatter and activity in the main cities. Now I hardly see people trying to sell me their things in the trade channel. In the old continent when I do /who I get a few people here and there whereas I used to get much more. A /who in Stormwind used to yield 50 people at all times, it now hangs around 10-25. The size of the population made the game fun and interesting, grinding through content now to reach 70 feels very desolate and boring. I sincerely hope that WoTLK will bring back players to my server, even though it is already rated at "medium" population and shouldn't be that empty.

    The way the game plays now 10-60 still takes way too long because it is a boring solo grind with little to mix things up.

    I have to disagree with his preference of shitty games though.

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  • reVersereVerse Attack and Dethrone God Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Lord Jezo wrote: »
    If that "empty" screenshot is from you actually playing why is there a watermark on it on the bottom right?

    Well, he mentions he plays a "newborn" i.e. low level Blood Elf, so it's obviously not a screenshot he took by himself seeing how Stormwind is an Alliance city and Blood Elves belong to the Horde.

    Also, even if it was a screenshot he took by himself, it still wouldn't prove anything in regards to the possible population of the city. That's a screenshot of the Cathedral Yard. There's exactly three things of interest there: Paladin and Priest trainers inside the Cathedral, and the orphanage which plays part in a once-a-year Children's Day event.

    Everyone knows that if you want to see loads and loads of people in Stormwind, there's two places you should visit: the Battlemasters in the Stormwind Castle where all the PvPers wait out their Battleground queues or the Trade District, which is the first place you run into when entering Stormwind, because both the Auction House and the Stormwind Bank are there, so it's the area of choice for people to hang out and show off their epics.

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  • SnareSnare Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I want WoW to die so that I don't jump on it every so often and waste my money/time.

    Also you argument about having the landmass too big? That doesn't really relate to the game being less popular...
    Maybe I'm reading it wrong.

    The problem with WoW (for me and mabybe others) is that once you've played 1 to 70 every other game is the same thing, with different graphics. Annoying.

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  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    reVerse wrote: »
    Lord Jezo wrote: »
    If that "empty" screenshot is from you actually playing why is there a watermark on it on the bottom right?

    Well, he mentions he plays a "newborn" i.e. low level Blood Elf, so it's obviously not a screenshot he took by himself seeing how Stormwind is an Alliance city and Blood Elves belong to the Horde.

    Also, even if it was a screenshot he took by himself, it still wouldn't prove anything in regards to the possible population of the city. That's a screenshot of the Cathedral Yard. There's exactly three things of interest there: Paladin and Priest trainers inside the Cathedral, and the orphanage which plays part in a once-a-year Children's Day event.

    Everyone knows that if you want to see loads and loads of people in Stormwind, there's two places you should visit: the Battlemasters in the Stormwind Castle where all the PvPers wait out their Battleground queues or the Trade District, which is the first place you run into when entering Stormwind, because both the Auction House and the Stormwind Bank are there, so it's the area of choice for people to hang out and show off their epics.
    And that was always extremely crowded for me, on a medium server (Scarlet Crusade). Loads of people standing around, messing around with fun items etc.

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  • theantipoptheantipop Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Seriously, force a friend to play with you. There are really two games within wow: solo/pug grinding and goofing around in a fun game with good friends. I made it 3 months doing the former at launch before I quit. I played 2.5 years doing it the right way and had a blast.

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  • KrunkMcGrunkKrunkMcGrunk Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    WoW sucks. Who cares.

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  • MalkorMalkor Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
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  • Captain KCaptain K Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Making the same post here and at another forum doesn't make somebody a shill.


    It might mean that person is dumb, though.

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  • darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Malkor wrote: »

    You're right! I'm going to start playing WoW now just because.. wait.. I'm going to not play WoW? What's he shilling?

    Personally I don't care for it, but there's no way it's dying out. Blizzard just need to say they're adding a new piece of armour or whatever and about half a million lapsed subscribers all jump back in to make a new character and level up.

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  • durandal4532durandal4532 Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Captain K wrote: »
    Making the same post here and at another forum doesn't make somebody a shill.


    It might mean that person is dumb, though.
    If that post is "What if... this other game is really best game? Could it be? Maybe all of you should check it out" then I think shill is kind of likely.

    Also: God, no.

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  • scootchscootch Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    dude. 15 million players.

    why even ask this question?

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  • PeregrineFalconPeregrineFalcon Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Not shill, blog copypasta:
    http://www.mmorpg.com/blogs/AndyLee/092008/2597_Is-WOW-beginning-to-die-out

    But at least it's copypasta and not just "Hai guyz, is WoW dying? Read blog to find out!"

    Although blog itself could be shill if said F2P game has pay-to-purchase items/content like most Chinese/Korean made grindfests do

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  • Captain KCaptain K Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Oh yeah I guess you're right. Somehow my brain failed to process the part about "this other Chinese MMO is a better game".


    Well whatever, this thread blows anyway, now I can convince myself it deserves locking.

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