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Overlord 2: The Seal Cub Clubbing Club (trailer in op, Demo on XBL, PSN and PC)

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    WotanAnubisWotanAnubis Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Strikerkc wrote: »
    Ganluan wrote: »
    I usually just stuck with a mix of browns and greens. Send in the browns to distract, then send in greens to annihilate.

    Browns all the way. I dealt with those water snake/dragon things by throwing waves of bodies at them... I had spares...
    I tend to deal with them by sending in one Brown, wait for the thing to snap, withdrawing the Brown in time and then step in myself to beat it in the head. The snake can't hurt you, so why waste your minions on it?

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    StrikerkcStrikerkc Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    ...so why waste your minions on it?

    Why not? o_O:twisted:

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    WotanAnubisWotanAnubis Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Strikerkc wrote: »
    ...so why waste your minions on it?

    Why not? o_O:twisted:
    Because then you won't have quite such a ludicrously large horde to casually throw into the burning fires of the smelting ovens to increase your own power. Obviously.

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    mxmarksmxmarks Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    how do you make just one brown move without moving all of them?

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    WotanAnubisWotanAnubis Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    mxmarks wrote: »
    how do you make just one brown move without moving all of them?
    I use that... what's it called... waypoint banner thing... assign one Brown to it, then move it.

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    MundaneSoulMundaneSoul fight fighter Daehan MingukRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    So I just grabbed the first Overlord for PC. I feel silly about having missed it back when it came out. It looks like great fun.

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    StrikerkcStrikerkc Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Strikerkc wrote: »
    ...so why waste your minions on it?

    Why not? o_O:twisted:
    Because then you won't have quite such a ludicrously large horde to casually throw into the burning fires of the smelting ovens to increase your own power. Obviously.

    My armory never suffered, despite my blunt methods. I may have had a large and monsterous hammer, but I still felt like I was doing something wrong if I actualy had to use it.

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    JihadJesusJihadJesus Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Strikerkc wrote: »
    Ganluan wrote: »
    I usually just stuck with a mix of browns and greens. Send in the browns to distract, then send in greens to annihilate.

    Browns all the way. I dealt with those water snake/dragon things by throwing waves of bodies at them... I had spares...
    I tend to deal with them by sending in one Brown, wait for the thing to snap, withdrawing the Brown in time and then step in myself to beat it in the head. The snake can't hurt you, so why waste your minions on it?
    I did a variation of this...only I fight dirtier.

    Step 1: 1 brown to control

    Step 2: Everything else Green. Marshalled at a waypoint (and therefore invisible) riiiiiiiiight by where the snake will strike.

    Step 3: Sweep single brown right in front of pile o' greens. Snake devours him.

    Step 4: Your whole army swarms his ugly head and stabs him to death in the face. Very, very quickly.

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    darunia106darunia106 J-bob in games Death MountainRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    So I sent an e-mail to Codemasters concerning the fact that you can't get Raising Hell on Steam, and I got this as a reply:
    I'm afraid there are no plans to release Raising Hell on steam at the current moment in time, however this does not rule out the option in the future.

    Our most recent games have been released on steam, so it is likely for Overlord 2, we can't however guarantee this.

    Definitely going to get this in retail.

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    BloodySlothBloodySloth Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    The demo for the original game was OK, but didn't impress me enough to put money down on the game. I eventually rented it after hearing so much about it from other people, and didn't regret it. I think I stopped playing somewhere in the dwarven castle, satisfied that I had wrung all the fun I could out of the game.

    Anyway, cut to now, I download the demo for Overlord 2 just for shits and giggles, and hot damn was it fun. So much destruction! And wolves! And seal clubbing! This already feels like a much more indulgent and entertaining game than the first.

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    FiarynFiaryn Omnicidal Madman Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    If you haven't played Raising Hell for the first Overlord, you're missing out. Raising Hell is overall much more inventive than the majority of the main game, with your minion useage being a little less straight forward. Overall a lot of fun.

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    darunia106darunia106 J-bob in games Death MountainRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    If you haven't played Raising Hell for the first Overlord, you're missing out. Raising Hell is overall much more inventive than the majority of the main game, with your minion useage being a little less straight forward. Overall a lot of fun.

    To be fair, I bought my copy of Overlord on Steam. But that will soon be rectified as I'm getting a retail copy from Goozex.

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    FoefallerFoefaller Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    The problem with blues is that most of the game was never set up for them...

    For them to be effective, it had to be a long, sustained battle where you can set them up somewhere they won't be massacred at. However, with the possible exception of your Dungeon, 99% of you battles were either done quickly (which required only 2-5 blues for cleanup) or were boss battles, and there was no safe area for them to sit back and play medic.

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    LalaboxLalabox Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Well, it does also look like the enemy may start employing tactics within these battles, and they look to be on a much larger scale than the simple brawls of the last game, so they might see some use in this game. Especially considering how many minion you seem to lose if you just charge head on into a phanalax of roman infantry.

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    JihadJesusJihadJesus Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    The biggest problem with the blues was that they were designed entirely around the idea that you'd find it useful to resurrect your minions. You know, the cannon fodder the game provides you in multitudes so that you can gleefully boil them alive by the hundreds just for shits and grins.

    The serve an entirely useless purpose, because no one gives a shit that they lost a minion - you've got hundreds more anyway, and the game knows that and revels in it. The blues just needed something else on top of that to make themselves useful; support magic like buffs or status effects on enemies would have made them at least have a purpose. Instead the devs just decide to force you to use them by making all of your other mans drown instantaneously in 3 inches of water.

    So in conclusion, fuck Blues.

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    CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I should be able to use the corpses of my browns as bridges.

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    Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    JihadJesus wrote: »
    The biggest problem with the blues was that they were designed entirely around the idea that you'd find it useful to resurrect your minions. You know, the cannon fodder the game provides you in multitudes so that you can gleefully boil them alive by the hundreds just for shits and grins.

    The serve an entirely useless purpose, because no one gives a shit that they lost a minion - you've got hundreds more anyway, and the game knows that and revels in it. The blues just needed something else on top of that to make themselves useful; support magic like buffs or status effects on enemies would have made them at least have a purpose. Instead the devs just decide to force you to use them by making all of your other mans drown instantaneously in 3 inches of water.

    So in conclusion, fuck Blues.

    Except that you're not always convienantly located right next to a minion node, so having the ability to keep your minion numbers from atrophying while being denied access to mounds is handy.

    Not terribly handy, but they have a use.

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    PowerslavePowerslave Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Couscous wrote: »
    I should be able to use the corpses of my browns as bridges.

    Now I'm going to be disappointed if there is no ability to make minion chain-bridges.

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    BloodySlothBloodySloth Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Couscous wrote: »
    I should be able to use the corpses of my browns as bridges.

    There definitely needs to be more perverse and morbid uses for minions. Have hundreds of them jump off into a crevasse to fill it up so you may safely walk over it. Make them throw themselves face-first onto hot coals so you don't have to burn your feet. Make them bash their brains out against locked doors until you get through. Get them to leap into piranha infested lakes until all the carnivorous fish are too fat and lazy to go after you. Use them as ammunition in crossbows and siege weaponry.

    Etc.

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    AldoAldo Hippo Hooray Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Only one brown survived my fight against the halfling boss, so he was decked out with the poker and hat of that lardy dude, he looked really cool. I wish I had a blue with me all the time so I could have kept him alive.

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    SilpheedSilpheed Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    The Blues would have been so much more useful if they had been able to ressurect from a distance, instead of having to run straight into whatever meatgrinder I've sent my greens and browns into.

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    LalaboxLalabox Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Aldo wrote: »
    t Lalabox: <3 Spirou & Fantasio!

    I'm so glad that someone got it. It is a terrifically brilliant and terribly unknown BD.

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    RizziRizzi Sydney, Australia.Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I just realised that I own the first one for PC and never installed it.
    Seems like something I would have done by now.

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    FoefallerFoefaller Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Game comes out/ships tomorrow, are you ready to be evil?

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    darunia106darunia106 J-bob in games Death MountainRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Pre-ordered mine on Amazon, should come Thursday.

    I will enslave everyone.

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    FiarynFiaryn Omnicidal Madman Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    darunia106 wrote: »
    Pre-ordered mine on Amazon, should come Thursday.

    I will enslave everyone.

    Even Santa Claus?

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    darunia106darunia106 J-bob in games Death MountainRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    darunia106 wrote: »
    Pre-ordered mine on Amazon, should come Thursday.

    I will enslave everyone.

    Even Santa Claus?

    Especially Santa Claus.

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    FoefallerFoefaller Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    darunia106 wrote: »
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    darunia106 wrote: »
    Pre-ordered mine on Amazon, should come Thursday.

    I will enslave everyone.

    Even Santa Claus?

    Especially Santa Claus.

    Of course, there isn't much that could be more evil...

    Anyway, the Wii and DS games (which are different games, not ports of Overlord 2) come out this week as well, on the fence as to when I'm getting them, anyone else planning on picking those up?

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    DisDis Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Does this game has better pathfinding?
    I kept getting LOST running like a wild goose on Overlord 1.

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    PoochPooch Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Dis wrote: »
    Does this game has better pathfinding?
    I kept getting LOST running like a wild goose on Overlord 1.

    I think it has a little Fable-style mini map in the HUD, something that I was wishing was in the first.

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    -Loki--Loki- Don't pee in my mouth and tell me it's raining. Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Pooch wrote: »
    Dis wrote: »
    Does this game has better pathfinding?
    I kept getting LOST running like a wild goose on Overlord 1.

    I think it has a little Fable-style mini map in the HUD, something that I was wishing was in the first.

    The PS3 was the first to get the mini map in it's Overlord: Raising Hell edition of the game, in addition to the expansion material.

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    ZombieSheepZombieSheep Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Took a quick look at the preview materials, seems fun, but I wish you can lord over creatures of bigger size, what's a evil army without the rare doom beasts among it's ranks.

    by the way, does anybody know the reason for the price difference between the PC and the console versions?

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    psycojesterpsycojester Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    It's never really an evil army anyway, more of an evil platoon.

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    klemmingklemming Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Eurogamer has a review up.
    Good score, and I'm looking forward to getting this on Friday. (Are any of the UK stores doing special editions/pre-order offers? I'd like a minion figurine)

    Hey, that first screenshot has a familiar caption though...

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    LalaboxLalabox Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Alright, it got a good score. Now get out there and buy this game, NOW. Laws of time and space should not concern you.

    Also, they stole the thread title. bikkibikkibo, you should be proud to have thought up of it.

    Greater musings will follow after I've finished cooking dinner.

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    CanisAquilusCanisAquilus Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Still dont feel comfortable fighting romans. Not at all. I hope it isnt mandetory.

    Oh and you should always have three to five blues with you to ensure the rest of your minions had optimal gear.

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    -Loki--Loki- Don't pee in my mouth and tell me it's raining. Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Still dont feel comfortable fighting romans. Not at all. I hope it isnt mandetory.

    How are they going to make fighting the main enemy optional?

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    klemmingklemming Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    How can you pass up a chance to fight the Romans?
    Have you never read Asterix?

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    Lux782Lux782 Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Just played the demo and found it enjoyable. I played OL1 but stopped midway through for whatever reason. This game may be a good LP.

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    SilpheedSilpheed Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Still dont feel comfortable fighting romans. Not at all. I hope it isnt mandetory.

    Oh and you should always have three to five blues with you to ensure the rest of your minions had optimal gear.
    Man, I'm going to fuck up their day so badly that they'll wish that they had been manhandled by Asterix and Obelix instead.

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