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The last two RPGs I've played where NWN2 and Witcher. They where good as far as character creation went and story was ok, but the thing that I hated was the quests.
It was "Go here and [Kill or Get] [Monster or Item] and then Return"
The 'fedex' type of quests, fucking hate them. Anyways, both of those games it felt like I was running around more then I was actucally playing.
Run to X, kill Y then return.
Run to A, bring back B and return.
Is oblivion like that? I heard it was good with side quests and such.
I forget which one it was..think it was SuperNES, but Final Fantasy had a game (Tera, Locke, that gambler guy) that had a story line.quest that wasn't fedex style....
The thing that redeems Oblivion is that you can basically just ignore all quests and just explore if you want. Leveling is tied to the use of your skills, not experience gained from questing, so there's little incentive to actually do quests if you don't feel like it.
The thing that redeems Oblivion is that you can basically just ignore all quests and just explore if you want. Leveling is tied to the use of your skills, not experience gained from questing, so there's little incentive to actually do quests if you don't feel like it.
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Your advice better be worth $49.95 for Oblivion + expansion packs!
The thing that redeems Oblivion is that you can basically just ignore all quests and just explore if you want. Leveling is tied to the use of your skills, not experience gained from questing, so there's little incentive to actually do quests if you don't feel like it.
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Your advice better be worth $49.95 for Oblivion + expansion packs!
or you can just the original used for $25 at gamestop
Oblivion is so fucking awesome and huge. My only problem was that if you do enough of the sidequests you can manage to max your character out early in the game and then you're just a walking invincible tank.
Oblivion is alright. I personally had more fun with the character creator than the actual game.
The fault of the game is that while there's a lot to explore, it's all very much the same. See one dungeon you've pretty much seen 'em all. That kind of thing.
Morrowind is a much better game. It's older, but if exploration and quests are your deal, then Morrowind is much more likely to tickle your fancy than Oblivion. Morrowind has real variety and the different places and cities have a very distinct feel. Oh, and the places you can just accidentally find are varied and can have awesome loot!
Oblivion's loot is based on your level, which really really sucks and breaks all immersion. So are the enemies. So don't worry, unless you intentionally try to gimp yourself you'll never be outmatched in Oblivion.
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ShogunHair long; money long; me and broke wizards we don't get alongRegistered Userregular
edited September 2008
If you're getting Oblivion for the PC you had better be prepared to get deep into the modification aspect of the game. Mods are what make Oblivion PC worth it. There is a thread in G&T so do a search and learn as much as you can. It can vastly change your playing experience. It is a fantastic game regardless.
Yeah, Oblivion and Morrowind without mods just aren't as fun. I mod'd the heck out of both games. Some of the stuff people have done for them is absolutely beautiful (and will make your game NSFW lol).
I forget which one it was..think it was SuperNES, but Final Fantasy had a game (Tera, Locke, that gambler guy) that had a story line.quest that wasn't fedex style....
What was that game?
FFVI(JP)/III(US). Great game.
Oblivion is definitely worth it. I actually preferred Morrowind for the reasons previously given, but as it's practically free to buy new, you could pick it and Oblivion up and decide for yourself.
Oblivion is so fucking awesome and huge. My only problem was that if you do enough of the sidequests you can manage to max your character out early in the game and then you're just a walking invincible tank.
This. I did the assassin guild and mage guild trees, a bunch of the statue quests, etc. When I finally went back to the main quest the idea of stuff killing me was hilarious. As far as the 'fedex' quests, Oblivion is defined by them. Yea, you don't HAVE to do them but the main quest by itself is not a lot of gameplay.
They're both great games, but IMO (and opinions differ on this) Morrowind is the better game. Its story (well, the main quest story, anyway) is much more nuanced and darker than Oblivion's.
On the other hand, quests in Morrowind tend to be more fetchy than in Oblivion. Oblivion's are more action-y and dynamic, which makes some of them a lot more fun, at least the first time you play them.
On the other hand, exploration itself in Morrowind is much better, because the environments are excellent, varied, and you can find really interesting - and sometimes great - stuff just lying around. The world is much more static and it really gives you that sense of discovery when you find something awesome. Loot in Oblivion, on the other hand, is more random. You won't find great stuff just lying around - you get it from questing or as random loot from enemies.
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kaliyamaLeft to find less-moderated foraRegistered Userregular
edited September 2008
Morrowind is a way more interesting game - I would start with that, so you don't get distracted by the climb-down in graphics quality. I got obsessed over morrowind, and turned off by oblivion.
Morrowind is a way more interesting game - I would start with that, so you don't get distracted by the climb-down in graphics quality. I got obsessed over morrowind, and turned off by oblivion.
Morrowind was amazing
I spent so so long on that game
oblivion was good, but just didn't last
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NoneoftheaboveJust a conforming non-conformist.Twilight ZoneRegistered Userregular
An apt description. I recently bought Oblivion, and I just can't get into it; the setting is generic, the gameplay is repetitive and the characterization is nonexistent.
If you're looking for something different and don't mind shitty graphics, try out Planescape: Torment. Definitely a plot-based game. It seems to get a lot of reccomendations around here.
Morrowind is a very different game from Oblivion. It has a much steeper learning curve but as a result, if you can penetrate it's extremely unforgiving exterior it is, reportedly, an infinitely more rewarding experience to Oblivion. Oblivion, meanwhile is a lot easier to access but perhaps not as involving as a result.
I say 'reportedly' because I've never actually played Morrowind, just read informed opinion of it.
Definately get Morrowind before. I probably put in over 200 hours playing and didnt even touch the expansions :S not to mention its alot better and HARDER then Oblivion.
Dont get me wrong I really liked Oblivion.... it is just too easy
I like Oblivion but I find myself getting bored with it very quickly. They must have only had five voice actors because everyone sounds the same >_<
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...and I thought of how all those people died, and what a good death that is. That nobody can blame you for it, because everyone else died along with you, and it is the fault of none, save those who did the killing.
I think I've played all the Elder Scrolls. I loved Morrowind, though i think it would seem more than dated these days, and people are kind of on the mark when the say Oblivion has less of a learning curve.
However. Oblivion has it's finer points, and those finer points are the mod packs. You can custom up that game any which way you like it- harder, tougher, faster, world expansions, gear expansions, pack animals, new quests, crazy haunts and hangouts- massive. I can't even tell you how vast the player content makes this game. And the story isn't all that bad either.
Mostly the game is about world exploration- ala Morrowind- and so you can explore as you will. There is some neat stuff to see for sure.
I tried to get into Morrowind before Oblivion, but I couldn't get over the fact that I could stab a guy, literally see my weapon connect with my enemy, but could still "miss". It's really disappointing too because Morrowind sounded much more open ended than Oblivion.
Oblivion is great through. I spent 70 some hours playing it. If you get it on PC be sure to mod it like everyone else has said. Unless you like dealing with highwaymen who have armor that is supposed to be ridiculously rare. Also, guards who are psychic.
oblivion probably isn't for you. It has a lot of that FedEx styled stuff but it also allows you to instantly return to any location you've already been to by clicking on it on the map.
oblivion probably isn't for you. It has a lot of that FedEx styled stuff but it also allows you to instantly return to any location you've already been to by clicking on it on the map.
well, that doesn't sound to bad.
The majority of my time in The Witcher is spent RUNNING from one quest to the other. It should be called 'The Runner', M I RITE?!
Maybe the 'instant port' will be better, focus on the quests instead of running around across vast reaches of land I've already seen.
The problem with instant teleportation is that it really cuts down on unintended exploration. Instead of wandering the wilderness on the way to a place and perhaps finding something awesome, you just port right there. I kind of regret using it.
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Morrowind is incredibly hard to get into if you've never played an Elder Scrolls game. Also terrible melee system.
Oblivion is a super fun game if you don't pretend you are a critic while playing. Fast travel helps out tons because sometimes you don't want to explore the entire map, you just want to maybe get to a city so you can buy some stuff, or quickly get to the Arena without going through half of the Imperial City first. With the addition of a few mods it becomes a very good game. The only official mod that is necessary is Shivering Isles. All the little tiny dlc ones are stupid.
If for nothing else, Morrowind has a much deeper smorgabord of mods that you can cherry-pick and play. There are some excellent player/weapon models out there as well as game tweaks and new content.
Oblivion may look better visually, but modders have yet to do anything "WOW!" worthy except for Deadly Reflex.
/my 2 cents
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RentI'm always rightFuckin' deal with itRegistered Userregular
edited January 2009
The levelling aspect in Oblivion is terrible and broken. Plus the game just feels like "GENERIC RPG MADE HUEG". No individuality really at all
Now Fallout 3, which is basically Oblivion with a not broken levelling system/interesting world/awesome quests, is like the best of both worlds
Thats great, too bad he isn't talking about Fallout 3 genius.
A single mod will fix Oblivion's leveling system, and will take about 45 seconds to download.
my favorite in oblivion is the stupid fucking auto-leveling resulting in situations later in the game where you'll get a bandit who will stop you on the side of the road
this bandit will be auto-leveled to you, so if you're high level, so will he be
in addition, his armor will be auto-scaled to match yours, so he'll be decked out in full daedric armor, worth thousands and thousands of gold
he'll then demand 10 gold and threaten to beat you up if he doesn't get it
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Oblivion does do them really good though. There is a lot to do, and lots to see.
What was that game?
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Your advice better be worth $49.95 for Oblivion + expansion packs!
or you can just the original used for $25 at gamestop
I've never played an elder scrolls.
The fault of the game is that while there's a lot to explore, it's all very much the same. See one dungeon you've pretty much seen 'em all. That kind of thing.
Morrowind is a much better game. It's older, but if exploration and quests are your deal, then Morrowind is much more likely to tickle your fancy than Oblivion. Morrowind has real variety and the different places and cities have a very distinct feel. Oh, and the places you can just accidentally find are varied and can have awesome loot!
Oblivion's loot is based on your level, which really really sucks and breaks all immersion. So are the enemies. So don't worry, unless you intentionally try to gimp yourself you'll never be outmatched in Oblivion.
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If you want to play them in order you'll need to pick up Arena and Daggerfall as well. At least I think those are their names.
FFVI(JP)/III(US). Great game.
Oblivion is definitely worth it. I actually preferred Morrowind for the reasons previously given, but as it's practically free to buy new, you could pick it and Oblivion up and decide for yourself.
This. I did the assassin guild and mage guild trees, a bunch of the statue quests, etc. When I finally went back to the main quest the idea of stuff killing me was hilarious. As far as the 'fedex' quests, Oblivion is defined by them. Yea, you don't HAVE to do them but the main quest by itself is not a lot of gameplay.
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On the other hand, quests in Morrowind tend to be more fetchy than in Oblivion. Oblivion's are more action-y and dynamic, which makes some of them a lot more fun, at least the first time you play them.
On the other hand, exploration itself in Morrowind is much better, because the environments are excellent, varied, and you can find really interesting - and sometimes great - stuff just lying around. The world is much more static and it really gives you that sense of discovery when you find something awesome. Loot in Oblivion, on the other hand, is more random. You won't find great stuff just lying around - you get it from questing or as random loot from enemies.
However, if you invest a few hours at www.tesnexus.com and mod up(PC only - which I 100% recommend) , it can be whatever you want it to be.
Morrowind was amazing
I spent so so long on that game
oblivion was good, but just didn't last
An apt description. I recently bought Oblivion, and I just can't get into it; the setting is generic, the gameplay is repetitive and the characterization is nonexistent.
If you're looking for something different and don't mind shitty graphics, try out Planescape: Torment. Definitely a plot-based game. It seems to get a lot of reccomendations around here.
I say 'reportedly' because I've never actually played Morrowind, just read informed opinion of it.
Dont get me wrong I really liked Oblivion.... it is just too easy
Nothing's forgotten, nothing is ever forgotten
However. Oblivion has it's finer points, and those finer points are the mod packs. You can custom up that game any which way you like it- harder, tougher, faster, world expansions, gear expansions, pack animals, new quests, crazy haunts and hangouts- massive. I can't even tell you how vast the player content makes this game. And the story isn't all that bad either.
Mostly the game is about world exploration- ala Morrowind- and so you can explore as you will. There is some neat stuff to see for sure.
Oblivion is great through. I spent 70 some hours playing it. If you get it on PC be sure to mod it like everyone else has said. Unless you like dealing with highwaymen who have armor that is supposed to be ridiculously rare. Also, guards who are psychic.
well, that doesn't sound to bad.
The majority of my time in The Witcher is spent RUNNING from one quest to the other. It should be called 'The Runner', M I RITE?!
Maybe the 'instant port' will be better, focus on the quests instead of running around across vast reaches of land I've already seen.
Morrowind is incredibly hard to get into if you've never played an Elder Scrolls game. Also terrible melee system.
Oblivion is a super fun game if you don't pretend you are a critic while playing. Fast travel helps out tons because sometimes you don't want to explore the entire map, you just want to maybe get to a city so you can buy some stuff, or quickly get to the Arena without going through half of the Imperial City first. With the addition of a few mods it becomes a very good game. The only official mod that is necessary is Shivering Isles. All the little tiny dlc ones are stupid.
Oblivion may look better visually, but modders have yet to do anything "WOW!" worthy except for Deadly Reflex.
/my 2 cents
Now Fallout 3, which is basically Oblivion with a not broken levelling system/interesting world/awesome quests, is like the best of both worlds
A single mod will fix Oblivion's leveling system, and will take about 45 seconds to download.
this bandit will be auto-leveled to you, so if you're high level, so will he be
in addition, his armor will be auto-scaled to match yours, so he'll be decked out in full daedric armor, worth thousands and thousands of gold
he'll then demand 10 gold and threaten to beat you up if he doesn't get it