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Stick that in your pipe and smoke it! [Pipe thread]

cogellcogell Registered User regular
edited October 2008 in Help / Advice Forum
Like, tobacco pipes.

I'm looking to get a pipe to smoke from so I can be a classy gent and get all the honies. The only problem is I have no idea where to start. What kind of pipe should I get? Are there any special tools involved in smoking the thing? What's a good brand of pipe tobacco? Are there online resources for this that I've missed? Hints or tips in maintaining the pipe? Basically, I need a tobacco pipe 101. Thanks in advance!

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  • TheLawinatorTheLawinator Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    You should get a pipe that blows bubbles, probably the best/healthiest option.

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  • cogellcogell Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    You should get a pipe that blows bubbles, probably the best/healthiest option.

    Bubbles don't have that wonderful pipe tobacco aroma! And while bubble pipes are classy as all get out, I'd still like to have a tobacco pipe that I can smoke on every once and a while.

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  • RichardTauberRichardTauber Kvlt Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I smoke chacom pipes and rattrays red raparee tobacco. Try some different blends to see what you like and make sure your pipe is made out of good material like briar wood. Be sure to try some latakia blends to see if you like that as it's quite an experience.

    A pipe tool is probably a good idea to get if you plan on smoking more than once since you will have to clean the pipe after smoking it. Remember to be patient and careful smoking your pipe the first twenty or so times so that the layer of choal builds up neatly inside it.

    If you plan on smoking every day, buy more than one pipe. Six pipes is a good number usually. Also, visit a proper tobacco store if you plan on buying a pipe, more often than not they've got beginners packages that will do just fine.

    Always smoke your pipe to the bottom.

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  • WillethWilleth Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I smoke chacom pipes and rattrays red raparee tobacco. Try some different blends to see what you like and make sure your pipe is made out of good material like briar wood. Be sure to try some latakia blends to see if you like that as it's quite an experience.

    A pipe tool is probably a good idea to get if you plan on smoking more than once since you will have to clean the pipe after smoking it. Remember to be patient and careful smoking your pipe the first twenty or so times so that the layer of choal builds up neatly inside it.

    If you plan on smoking every day, buy more than one pipe. Six pipes is a good number usually. Also, visit a proper tobacco store if you plan on buying a pipe, more often than not they've got beginners packages that will do just fine.

    Always smoke your pipe to the bottom.

    My dad only ever had the one, aside from a meerschaum one he kept for special occasions.

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  • ceresceres When the last moon is cast over the last star of morning And the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited September 2008
    My dad used to smoke a pipe when I was little. He had to stop because of a problem with his jaw, but the terrible thing is that I really miss the smell of pipe smoke. I didn't know people really smoked them much anymore.

    He had one pipe he smoked, and another two I think for decoration. Kinda wish I could remember what the brand of tobacco was.. all I remember was that it came in a white pouch with a big black circle and gold lines along the edge.

    Please pardon my unhelpful nostalgia. :)

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  • LackadaisicalLackadaisical Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    My brother still smokes to this day--and for a short while he used our Grandfather's pipe. It's imperative that you find a good one, make sure it's clean and keep it that way (you can buy pipe cleaning tools at smoking stores, along with a pipe and pipe tobacco.) It's generally cheaper than cigarettes as long as you ration it out properly, and it sure makes you look cool! Try and find a specialty smoking store in your area and discuss it with the merchant who works there. He may be biased, but he should know better than I the purpose of having a pipe.

    If I were ever to smoke, I probably would get a pipe if only to have something to occupy myself with that wasn't a cigarette.

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  • cogellcogell Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Sweet. Thanks for all the help guys.

    My grandfathers both smoked pipe, so I always associate my earlier memories of them with that sweet pipe tobacco smell. Sometimes an older gentleman will walk around smoking a pipe on campus, and I'll spend my day following him for that smell.

    I'll be hitting an Up in Smoke today to see what they recommend. Thanks a lot guys!

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  • TL DRTL DR Not at all confident in his reflexive opinions of thingsRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Yeah, no reason to get a pricey piece for your first go. A pipe tool should only be a couple bucks, and have both a flat circular end for packing the bowl down and a poker.

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  • Forbe!Forbe! Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Find a tobacconist. A decent estate (used) pipe will run you about $20-50. These pipes are broken in, and give a really nice smoke. Buy a pipe tamper (everyone is calling them tools). Most pipe tampers come with something to ream the inside, it should be spoon shaped, and a flat end with a tamper on it. This packs the tobacco down after you've lit it once. It packs the ash to make the smoke more consistent.

    If you intend to smoke a pipe regularly, the first few weeks can be very harsh. Your mouth needs to get used to the high PH that your saliva will be at due to the smoke. It can make your stomach very upset and give you fairly bad heart burn. Also, when storing your pipe, make sure to have it laying with the stem upward. This allows moisture to run from the stem into your bowl, where it will evaporate more readily. A good pipe should only be smoked two-three times a day to keep it fresh. The more you smoke it, the more moisture will build up in the stem and the bowl. It gets kind of gross when you pull from a pipe and get really sour saliva back in your mouth from smoking it too much. Never move the stem from the pipe while it is warm. This wears the fit down between the stem and the pipe. When removing the stem to clean, rotate it in one direction only (IE: Always turn clockwise). This also helps retain the fit of the stem. Most tobacconists carry their own type of pipe tobacco, usually flavored/blended in house. Ask for an aromatic blend, and they will usually give you a variety of options. Non-aromatic blends are usually very heavy smokes, and not for novice pipe smokers.

    As for brands: If your local tobacconist doesn't have their own variety of pipe tobacco, try Dunhill out. It is a commonly carried tobacco, and their aromatics are decent. However, nothing beats a fresh sack of handmade aromatic tobacco.

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  • KingMooKingMoo Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    i must have missed something because I don't recall pipe smoking to be cool. I'm not against smoking or anything but are teenages smoking pipes nowadays?

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  • ShogunShogun Hair long; money long; me and broke wizards we don't get along Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    KingMoo wrote: »
    i must have missed something because I don't recall pipe smoking to be cool. I'm not against smoking or anything but are teenages smoking pipes nowadays?

    Since when do teenagers deem what is cool amongst the population? I am not a teenager and I don't smoke but I would be tempted to try some real tobacco out of a nice pipe. The tobacco in ciggs is terrible but from what I understand good pipe tobacco isn't nearly as bad.

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  • Forbe!Forbe! Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    You can buy bad pipe tobacco just like you can buy bad cigarette tobacco. In general, any tobacco from a gas station or Wal-Greens is going to be awful.

    Most tobacconists blend cigarette tobacco just like they do with pipe tobacco. For example, the tobacconist in my town buys all of his tobacco pesticide free from Virginia. While it is still awful for you, it isn't as bad as any big name brand like Camel or Marlboro, which contains chemicals to preserve the tobacco, flavoring agents, and even chemicals to keep the cigarette ignited (tobacco usually self-extinguishes fairly quickly).

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  • ShogunShogun Hair long; money long; me and broke wizards we don't get along Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Well I'm curious as to a brand of good pipe tobacco. At the place I worked previously there was a guy who every day at 1pm would go down to the plaza to smoke his pipe. I would often times skate down there on a break and I would smell his pipe a lot and it smelled fucking good.

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  • KingMooKingMoo Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Shogun wrote: »
    KingMoo wrote: »
    i must have missed something because I don't recall pipe smoking to be cool. I'm not against smoking or anything but are teenages smoking pipes nowadays?

    Since when do teenagers deem what is cool amongst the population? I am not a teenager and I don't smoke but I would be tempted to try some real tobacco out of a nice pipe. The tobacco in ciggs is terrible but from what I understand good pipe tobacco isn't nearly as bad.

    ok ok... maybe I should have said "when did Paris Hilton start smoking a pipe"

    I'm actually thinking that this is a good idea since I like smoking on occasion. But is it really all that different than smoking a cigar?

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  • Forbe!Forbe! Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Yes it is different from smoking a cigar.

    Dunhill, Middleton (apple), and Paladin are all decent companies.

    When I did smoke pipe, I didn't usually smoke anything commercial, though.

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  • cogellcogell Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    KingMoo wrote: »
    i must have missed something because I don't recall pipe smoking to be cool. I'm not against smoking or anything but are teenages smoking pipes nowadays?

    For the record, I'm not doing this to be "cool". Most teenagers here are smoking cigarettes, which smell awful and sting the nose. Pipe tobacco smells wonderful, and is enjoyed by many people, including those who don't smoke. Bottom line is it looks relaxing, smells wonderful, and can be cheaper than cigarettes (basis for this is a pack a day: $28 a week, $112 a month, and so on)

    I really appreciate all the help and advice you guys have given me. I picked out a pipe I liked, got some cleaners and a tool, and am now looking for a brand of tobacco. Aromatics are being recommended a lot, but are there certain blends/flavors I should be looking for as a newbie?

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  • SarcastroSarcastro Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Pipe smoking is very much like smoking cigars, in that it has a low end, and a very very high-end. They aren't like cigarettes at all, the smoke is stronger, fuller flavored, and you're not really supposed to inhale.

    I used to enjoy a pipe now and then in college, I cant even remember the kind of wood, though I still have it somewhere. When I got it, it was almost tan with just a hint of cherry. After being seasoned and smoked consistantly, it turned into a dark lustrous red, and the base into almost a black cherry.

    The pipe tool is extremely handy for many things, being part pocket knife, part scraper and part long pokey thing. Haven't smoked it in a long time, but I put it in safekeeping. I liked Captain Black I think at the time, but I remember trying all sorts of different ones. There really is an art to packing and smoking it, getting the draw and heat just right. Good times.

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  • Phil G.Phil G. __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2008
    As far as aromatics go, they don't show flavours as much as you would think. Sure one smells like raspberry out of the bag/tin, but it probably will not taste like it. You may get a hint of it, but it depends. The room note (Smell of the burning tobacco to yourself and others) will likely be amazing, but it will lack in the taste department.

    Since you're just starting out, I'll give you some recommendations for tobaccos to try. I'm not a big Virginia tobacco fan (it tastes too much cigarettes like to me) so I can't say too much there, but I do like English and Va/Per (Virginia and Perique) blends:
    • Dunhill's Night Cap- A really strong English, so it is very smokey, pretty high in nicotine too.
    • A&C Peterson's Escudo- This is a Va/Per, Virginia and Perique mix. Kind of figgy and sweet because of the Virginia and spicy because of the Perique.
    • Dunhill's My Mixture 965- Haven't had too much of it, but it is a very good solid English blend.
    • Dunhill's Early Morning Pipe- An Oriental Blend, so it is fairly spicy, but good. They say nicotine isn't high in it, but I was knocked down on my ass by it.
    • McClelland's Frog Morton- This is an English and aromatic mix, so it is a nice one to get started on.
    • Boswell's Christmas Cookie, Dutch Treat, Raspberry Cream- These are really, really good aromatics. You can only get them online here.
    • Mac Baren's Vanilla Cream- This is an alright aromatic. Tastes good, smells good. It has a problem with tongue bite, as most Mac Baren's (Mac Biten's, as they're known) do. Advice for dealing with bite later.
    • Mac Baren's Virginia No 1- The only Virginia I smoke. It bites, and can punish you if you smoke fast, but it is a very sweet and pure tobacco.
    These are some basics that a lot of people try as they start out. If you want to look at some reviews of these tobaccos, check out Tobacco Reviews.

    Now for tongue bite: It depends on the person. I am one of those people that has the body chemistry that doesn't get bitten often, so I don't worry that much, but here are some tricks since you probably aren't like me.
    1. Dry your tobacco out: Drying the tobacco out let's some of the moisture out, and can help tongue bite. I suggest 30-45 minutes for any drugstore tobacco (Prince Albert, Captain Black) or aromatic; 15-20 minutes for anything else.
    2. Smoke slowly: This not only keeps you from burning a hole in your pipe, but it keeps bite down and flavour up. Don't expect to go through an entire bowl without re-lighting a couple of times. if your pipe is too hot to hold to your cheek without discomfort, put the pipe down and come back to it later.
    3. Avoid drinking or eating while smoking. It messes with the pH in your mouth and makes tongue bite easier.

    I would go into loading a pipe, but everybody does it different. Search youtube for the Frank Method (you don't have to be as anal as him though) or do the clasic "Hand of the baby, hand of the mother, hand of the father" layering method. the goal is to have a draw that isn't too hard and isn't too easy. If it feels like a straw with a drink, then you're peachy. If it doesn't, unload and start again.

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  • RNEMESiS42RNEMESiS42 Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    cogell wrote: »
    KingMoo wrote: »
    i must have missed something because I don't recall pipe smoking to be cool. I'm not against smoking or anything but are teenages smoking pipes nowadays?

    For the record, I'm not doing this to be "cool". Most teenagers here are smoking cigarettes, which smell awful and sting the nose. Pipe tobacco smells wonderful, and is enjoyed by many people, including those who don't smoke. Bottom line is it looks relaxing, smells wonderful, and can be cheaper than cigarettes (basis for this is a pack a day: $28 a week, $112 a month, and so on)

    I really appreciate all the help and advice you guys have given me. I picked out a pipe I liked, got some cleaners and a tool, and am now looking for a brand of tobacco. Aromatics are being recommended a lot, but are there certain blends/flavors I should be looking for as a newbie?

    I remember this old guy that worked at the liquor store who would smoke his pipe outside every hour. It always smelled really good. The thing is, once you went inside and were face to face with him, the side of his lip where his pipe would rest was bumpy, calloused, and brown. Also, a few of the teeth on that side were brown and falling out...nice guy, though.

    I used to be under the impression that pipe smoking wasn't as bad for you, similar to smoking a cigar (since maybe you don't actually inhale it). Just be careful man, tobacco is still tobacco!

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  • Phil G.Phil G. __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2008
    Very true, I only smoke my pipes once every week or so, mainly because that is the only time I have, but it is also safer. I forget which year, but one of the Surgeon General's reports on smoking found that pipe smokers who smoke less than 4 bowls a day live longer than non-smokers. I think it is something about the relaxation it brings :P

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  • GihgehlsGihgehls Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Phil G. wrote: »
    I think it is something about the relaxation it brings :P

    I think it is because smoking gives you vitamins.

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  • Seaborn111Seaborn111 Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    are you located in norman?

    if so, go to sooner fashion mall, go to the smoke shop out front of sears and ask them these exact questions. they'll help you out.

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  • cogellcogell Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Those Boswell's tobaccos sound fantastic. Definitely gonna check those out. And yeah, I'm currently located in norman, so I'll go check out that smoke shop sometime soon. Thanks folks!

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  • Sir CarcassSir Carcass I have been shown the end of my world Round Rock, TXRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Is there a mouth cancer risk with puffing a pipe? Are there tobaccos that are better about this than others?

    I've had a pipe for quite a while now (about 10 years), but rarely smoke it now. In fact, I haven't even touched it for about 5 years now. The main reason is my wife always bitches about it, how it's still dangerous (we both quit smoking cigarettes in 2001). I did enjoy it occasionally, and would like to still, but I'd rather not if it's going to greatly increase my cancer risk.

    Also, is it better to keep tobacco fairly fresh, or does it keep fairly well?

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  • Phil G.Phil G. __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2008
    Well, there is a higher risk than a non-smoker, that is for sure. But if you only do it weekly and don't inhale (for your lungs sake, and the sake of the taste of tobacco) I'd imagine you aren't in that bad of shape (Note, this is my personal opinion, so it is up to you). Whenever you go to your dentist, ask him to check your mouth for signs of cancer.

    I don't know if there is any higher risk of cancer with different tobaccos, I know that drugstore tobacco like Prince Albert and Captain Black are chock full of chemicals to help preserve them/keep them moist, so there might be something that makes them more dangerous than something that relies on a tin to keep it moist. Aromatics also have more chemicals added for flavour, so take that as you will. One can buy a pipe tobacco that is absolutely pure with no additives, but I can't remember what it is called.

    Filter pipes (Numerous kinds of filters: charcoal, paper, balsa wood, rock maple wood) are very common in Europe, but I honestly can't tell you if they do anything to lower the risk of cancer.

    If the pipe tobacco is kept in something airtight then it keeps very well, from experience, aged tobacco is even better than non-aged. It should be in a mason jar or unopened tin for that to work though. Here is an FAQ about aging pipe tobacco.

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  • The NescientThe Nescient Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I've actually read abot a few studies that show that occasionally smoking a pipe is good for you, like one bowl of tobacco every day or two. It basically came down to finding that the amount of stress it relieves outweighs the minimal adverse effect on your lungs. I can probably still track down the actual study if you guys are interested.

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  • Richard_DastardlyRichard_Dastardly Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Do you inhale pipe smoke like a cigarette or smoke it like a cigar?

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  • cogellcogell Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I believe it smokes more like a cigar. You don't inhale, you just puff.

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  • gilraingilrain Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Always good to see people interested in pipe smoking! It's a relaxing, old-world, and (relatively) safe way to enjoy tobacco. Like must indulgences, the ritual is important in ensuring that it is kept in moderation and not abused. The ritual of selecting a pipe, a blend of tobacco, and then carefully packing, lighting, and smoking a pipe is what makes it such a different experience from other forms of smoking.

    The best beginner's guide has been and still is the FAQ for ASP (alt.smokers.pipes). It's available here. They also maintain a program which supplies worthy beginner's with free pipes and tobacco. I started with one, myself.

    A decent pipe which will serve you well will be about $40, new. However, you can find good deals on old estate pipes, especially at places with little idea of how to value them, like antiques shops. If you intend to smoke regularly, you should consider collecting a cycle of pipes, so that you never have to smoke any one pipe more than once a day. A pipe should rest for a while before being smoked again. Clay and meerschaum are an exception, and can be smoked every few hours. Aside from that, most collectors like to dedicate a single pipe to certain styles of tobacco, or even to a single blend.

    To add a little bias, I prefer G.L. Pease tobacco blends and my father's pipes. :)

    Stanwell makes good beginner's pipes, though, and this store is the best on the Internet for general supplies. The Newegg of pipe smoking, so to speak.

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