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Spider-Man: Web of Shadows DS - Metroidvania + intense combat!

ZauronZauron Registered User regular
edited February 2009 in Games and Technology
Greetings! Some of you know me as the gameplay programmer of Minebot Arena and the GBA version of Spyro: The Eternal Night (http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?t=29570).

Wanted to let you all know about my latest project, Spider-Man: Web of Shadows for the DS.

Those familiar with Spyro GBA may recognize my handiwork in this title, as the combat and controls are in a similar style. If you liked the controls and combat design of that game you will probably like the way this game plays as well.

It is not a clone of Spyro though! Not only is it on the DS this time, which enables things such as a handy mini-map on the bottom screen, but of course Spider-Man as a character is much different than Spyro which means a completely unique set of moves. I'm particularly proud of the new unique web swinging mechanic, which I put a lot of work into to make it feel just right. Also, its much more Metroidvania-ish than Spyro was, with the entire game world being linked together in a large game map instead of being divided into separate stages, and the only factor limiting you from getting to a new area is what abilities you have.

This was my first real experience working with 3D graphics (although its still 2D in gameplay), and it was actually a different team than Spyro with the exception of myself, which means a new level design mentality and art direction. This time I was responsible for designing Spider-Man's moveset and overall combat design, as well as the programming for Spider-Man, the enemies & bosses, general game physics, and some other minor gameplay stuff.

I hope anyone interested in this style of game will give it a shot and let me know what you think! It should be in stores now.

Here is the trailer for it (not made by me this time):

Here's an apparantly fan-made trailer posted on YouTube (also not from me) that uses some (but not all) of the combat moves not shown in the main trailer. The music it uses is a bit...interesting...and definitely not from the game ;).

Here's some reviews:

http://ds.ign.com/articles/922/922817p1.html
http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/reviewArt.cfm?artid=17178
http://nds.gamezone.com/gzreviews/r35243.htm
http://www.cheatcc.com/ds/rev/spidermanwebofshadowsreview.html
http://www.pocketgamer.co.uk/r/DS/Spider-Man%3A+Web+of+Shadows/review.asp?c=9839

- Zauron
Author of Minebot Arena and some other stuff
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  • j0hnz3rj0hnz3r Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    That is shit hot!

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  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Holy shit.

    That looks hot.

    EDIT: Eerie how alike my response was.

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  • Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood My baby's in there someplace She crawled right inRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Wow, that looks awesome. The combat especially looks very fitting. Spidey's an agile dude so I love seeing him pummeling people in mid air and using web swings to continue combos.

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  • KlykaKlyka DO you have any SPARE BATTERIES?Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    HOLY SHIT

    I am a huge Spider-Man whore and that just made me consider buying a DS!

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  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    That looks absolutely fantastic, man. I mean really. Very fluid. The webslinging is incredibly hot.

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  • slash000slash000 Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Holy shit, great work my friend. Very impressive.


    I'm glad you were able to do this with a more interesting and more popular license than Spyro.

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  • METAzraeLMETAzraeL Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    glad to see you working on another franchise that needs help, you seem to have a great hand at combat and gameplay.

    I still remember getting the launch Spider-Man game bundled with my DS phat - perhaps this can wash the bad taste away.

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  • GyralGyral Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I was going to jokingly post "That is shit hot!" but after watching the video, that's pretty much my response. Looks nice and reminds me of the SNES/Genesis Spider-Man sidescrollers.

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  • slash000slash000 Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Gyral wrote: »
    I was going to jokingly post "That is shit hot!" but after watching the video, that's pretty much my response. Looks nice and reminds me of the SNES/Genesis Spider-Man sidescrollers.

    except better!

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  • RenzoRenzo Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    And it's in a Metroid-style game? Wow.

    Damn, both the 360/PS3 and DS versions of Spidey look fantastic.

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  • EtchEtch Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I like when he's balancing on one hand and kicking the shit out of some guy.

    Ridiculous amounts of hits in attacks are always fun.

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  • KlykaKlyka DO you have any SPARE BATTERIES?Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Renzo wrote: »
    And it's in a Metroid-style game? Wow.

    Damn, both the 360/PS3 and DS versions of Spidey look fantastic.

    That's what you get when you are not tied to a bad movie license!

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  • ZauronZauron Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Etch wrote: »
    I like when he's balancing on one hand and kicking the shit out of some guy.

    Ridiculous amounts of hits in attacks are always fun.

    Yeah, that was one of the first attacks I came up with when trying to think up neat moves to do. I was really happy with how it turned out in the game. It always gets a good reaction when people see it, and the max number of kicks you can do with it is based on how awesome your combo has been up to that point which I think is pretty rewarding.

    Spider-Man's animator and I tried to come up with attacks that fit Spidey's unique style (he's agile with super-human reflexes, but he has no formal training in martial arts) and still looked and felt awesome, which was harder than it sounds. We worked closely together to perfect Spider-Man's look and feel as much as possible.

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  • KiTAKiTA Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Holy... holy god.

    Please keep making video games.

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  • MumblyfishMumblyfish Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Spyro: The Eternal Night was my favourite game on the GameBoy Advance. No small praise for the console that gave me Advance Wars, Fire Emblem and Mario & Luigi, which in my opinion are still best-in-genre games.

    Web of Shadows looks even better.

    You are a wonderful man. Never stop.

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  • NerdtendoNerdtendo Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I came so hard, the front of my pants have torn asunder from the force.

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  • KlykaKlyka DO you have any SPARE BATTERIES?Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    The animations are so...so..so SMOOTH.

    I could look at this for hours.

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  • SaddlerSaddler Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Looks good, and I've been wanting a game like this for the DS. I wonder if that was the actual game music playing over the video?

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  • TyrantCowTyrantCow Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    WOW!

    That looks good, man. I remember hearing good things about the Spyro combat...

    What will be the best way to procure this game? Will it be available at your average big box retailer?

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  • ZauronZauron Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    TyrantCow wrote: »
    WOW!

    That looks good, man. I remember hearing good things about the Spyro combat...

    What will be the best way to procure this game? Will it be available at your average big box retailer?

    I'm not made privy to that kind of info through internal sources, but from what I've seen around the internet, its likely going to be a much less limited release than the GBA version of Spyro was and should be readily available at all retailers. According to IGN the release date is the 21st of this month.

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  • KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I hate you Zauron.

    Well, no. My wallet hates you. Seriously, that video, and the fact that you're working on it convinced me to buy this.

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  • bloodyroarxxbloodyroarxx Casa GrandeRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Klyka wrote: »
    The animations are so...so..so SMOOTH.

    I could look at this for hours.

    I was going to say the same thing, like seriously holy fuck that's some crazy animation.

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  • LethardicusLethardicus Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    this is RIDICULOUS. is there leveling and items and etc? (haha i saw metroidvania and....yeah). regardless this looks like something im gonna need to pick up...

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  • 4rch3nemy4rch3nemy Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I think this will turn out to be a very polished/smooth action game with an experience bar but NOT a metroidvania game. I hope to all hell it will be as adventure-y as metroidvania is but it looks to be more action, less backtracking to find cool shit / new areas.

    I could be wrong. I hope I am.

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  • DeMoNDeMoN twitch.tv/toxic_cizzle Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    This just looks so very good.

    My wallet also hates you.

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  • OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? the foot of mt fujiRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Holy shit what

    This looks amazing

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  • ArikadoArikado Southern CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I am eagerly anticipating this title having seen the gameplay video.

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  • ZauronZauron Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    4rch3nemy wrote: »
    I think this will turn out to be a very polished/smooth action game with an experience bar but NOT a metroidvania game. I hope to all hell it will be as adventure-y as metroidvania is but it looks to be more action, less backtracking to find cool shit / new areas.

    I could be wrong. I hope I am.

    Another preview goes into a bit more detail about the Metroidvania nature of the game, found here:
    http://talkingaboutgames.com/content/view/2324/94/

    I'll add that Metroidvanias are my favorite genre ever, and although I was not in charge of that aspect of the design (it was the lead designer's excellent idea to combine a Metroidvania with my combo-based combat system), I certainly wouldn't claim it was one if it wasn't. For those that played Spyro GBA, I will say this one is much more Metroidvania-ish than Spyro was.

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  • FeralFeral MEMETICHARIZARD interior crocodile alligator ⇔ ǝɹʇɐǝɥʇ ǝᴉʌoɯ ʇǝloɹʌǝɥɔ ɐ ǝʌᴉɹp ᴉRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Wait, so you did Spyro GBA and now you're working on a DS platformer?

    I'll buy seven, just so I can play one and stuff the other six down my pants when I'm feeling lonely.

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  • nomenome Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    As someone who has played the hell out of Spyro GBA, I just want to say I'm glad you're getting lots of gaming related work.

    Will the different difficulty settings be handled as well as Spyro?

    I guess it goes without saying that I'll be picking up this game as well. You realize PA expects great things from you by now? :)

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  • IconIcon Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    With great power comes great responsibility :)

    I want this more than the new Castlevania game. I love Metroid as much as the next person that loves metroid and I love me some beat em up combat too. But I really love fast there is not enough fast games. This game seems almost old Sonic fast in places, give a big pat on the back to the clever clogs who said "we need to make this faster" and then keep repeating himself. There is nothing cooler than clearing out 3 or 4 screens like the flash!


    Nice work!

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  • randombattlerandombattle Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Zauron wrote: »
    4rch3nemy wrote: »
    I think this will turn out to be a very polished/smooth action game with an experience bar but NOT a metroidvania game. I hope to all hell it will be as adventure-y as metroidvania is but it looks to be more action, less backtracking to find cool shit / new areas.

    I could be wrong. I hope I am.

    Another preview goes into a bit more detail about the Metroidvania nature of the game, found here:
    http://talkingaboutgames.com/content/view/2324/94/

    I'll add that Metroidvanias are my favorite genre ever, and although I was not in charge of that aspect of the design (it was the lead designer's excellent idea to combine a Metroidvania with my combo-based combat system), I certainly wouldn't claim it was one if it wasn't. For those that played Spyro GBA, I will say this one is much more Metroidvania-ish than Spyro was.

    Zauron stop being so cool. Save some cool for the other developers geeze..

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  • warder808warder808 Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Holy fucking Hell. I never buy the DS version of big releases. I will make an exception.

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  • DeMoNDeMoN twitch.tv/toxic_cizzle Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Alright Zauron, I don't if you can really talk about it, but it may or may not affect my purchasing of the game.

    Are there unlockables? As in, costumes or characters? Even concept art? A simple yes or no will suffice.

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  • Ah_PookAh_Pook Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    man this game looks cooler than the ps3/360 versions. nice.

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  • 4rch3nemy4rch3nemy Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Zauron wrote: »
    4rch3nemy wrote: »
    I think this will turn out to be a very polished/smooth action game with an experience bar but NOT a metroidvania game. I hope to all hell it will be as adventure-y as metroidvania is but it looks to be more action, less backtracking to find cool shit / new areas.

    I could be wrong. I hope I am.

    Another preview goes into a bit more detail about the Metroidvania nature of the game, found here:
    http://talkingaboutgames.com/content/view/2324/94/

    I'll add that Metroidvanias are my favorite genre ever, and although I was not in charge of that aspect of the design (it was the lead designer's excellent idea to combine a Metroidvania with my combo-based combat system), I certainly wouldn't claim it was one if it wasn't. For those that played Spyro GBA, I will say this one is much more Metroidvania-ish than Spyro was.

    Sweet. That relieves my fears a bit. Thanks Zauron.. a) for improving upon the metroidvania formula and b) being radical. gnarly. wicked. etc.

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  • skaceskace Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Consider it bought sir. I don't judge DS games too harshly, since just about anything is great on the shitter, but this looks like it could be one of the better games to come out for the system.

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  • SirUltimosSirUltimos Don't talk, Rusty. Just paint. Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Holy crap. This looks incredible. The combat looks incredibly fun and the animation in unbelievable.

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  • ZerokkuZerokku Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    First day buy. This looks awesome.

    But my wallet hates you with a burning passion =P

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  • ZauronZauron Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Brief mention of more of the Metroidvania nature of the game in the second-to-last paragraph of this preview: http://www.gamingtrend.com/Articles/articles.php?artID=392&pg=2

    Also second half of this preview goes into it a bit, and says some other nice things (I particularly appreciated the line that says "...the graphics time perfectly with the controls, something a lot of developers just can’t seem to get right."): http://www.4colorrebellion.com/archives/2008/10/02/4cr-preview-spider-man-web-of-shadows-wiids/

    I'd also like to add, that one of the things that I think makes a good Metroidvania is to have some power-ups that you can get early if you are very skilled, or you can get the obvious way later when you have the correct ability. For example, in Super Metroid you can get many things using wall jumps and bomb jumps very early in the game, or you can come back later when you have ability upgrades and get those same items much more easily the "intended" way. Just sayin'

    I'm sorry I can't answer some of your questions, I can't really touch on anything that hasn't been brought up by other sources.

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