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So I just finished playing (reading, really) through Animamundi: Dark Alchemist via the best goddamn Let's Play thread ever (protip: READ IT! NOW!) and now I am in a serious mood for all things infernal and Faustian and gothic and profane in nature, perhaps with some debauchery and hedonism thrown in for flavor. Strangely, even though many a game goes with the whole heaven-and-hell-or-their-analogues-and-everything-inbetween aspects and you see plenty of characters who claim to pledge allegience to one hellish force or another, very few seem to really get into the dark arts and the profane and other things that'd earn you a one-way ticket to one of the inner rings of Hell, often just portraying it in the vein of "he's a demon/madman who goes around destroying stuff abd being a douchebag and just trying to plunge the whole of existance into chaos, RAR!". Shin Megami Tensei seems to be the most prominent for this sort of thing what with negotiating with demons to get them to serve under you and the Heaven vs. Hell stuff going on and all the biblical and mythological references and stuff, but even then it doesn't really seem to go very deep (then again I've only played parts of 1 and 2 and the very intro of Nocturne, so who knows what'll pop up during the endgame).
So what do you say, G&T? What's eternal damnation to a bit of digital hedonism?
So what do you say, G&T? What's eternal damnation to a bit of digital hedonism?
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That said I like the idea of hedonism you mentioned. There really isn't a lot of games that deal with that theme well. I'd love to see something with weird blood rituals, kinky sex, just the wackiest most un-holy stuff you can think of. You know, the characters really sinning. I suppose the lack of this stuff has a lot to do with AO games being shunned by larger retailers (or not existing at all, like here in Australia).
Even the idea of suggesting this stuff would just be food for the games are for kids critics that would be horrified by this supposedly immature attitude towards games featuring sin. But it's not immaturity, it's that yearning that all humans feel to walk on the wild side, to see what it's like to be bad.
That kinda got off topic a bit, but yeah. Hedonism is good, need more of it in games.
As far as actual examples in games, I'm really not sure. I remember some of these themes being in Max Payne, especially the first one with it's end of the world, blood and ice theme. Also for some reason Vampire: The Masquerade: Bloodlines springs to mind, though I've never played it, but I keep thinking it followed these same lines.
Anyway, anyone got any other games they know of?
Oh. My. God. That was phenomenal.
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Wrong. The best Let's Play is the KOTOR II one found here: http://fromearth.net/LetsPlay/KOTOR%202/
Seriously though, while the Animal Crossing one is good, it doesn't have a goddamn thing on PM2.
Edit - BAM. Read it motherfuckers, and be schooled.
Truly. The Animal Crossing LP is pure genius.
Yahtzee's essay on the same was much better.
Fuck Yahtzee.
If you like the guy that much, go ahead
Thats the one where he plays it out
Edit:
You son of a bitch, now I'm going to be reading this all night.
It is spectacular.
Oh gods.
That is fabulous.
To be more on topic, I think this sort of hedonistic vibe runs through a few games in recent memory. GTA Vice City springs to mind, if only because of it's Scarface-esque storyline.
But it's still not a game that really just throws caution to the wind and engages in goat fucking, or the like. Not that I approve of such behavior, but I'm trying to prove a point.
Is there any game like this, G&T?
It's fantastic from what little I've played of it.
Goddamn computer. *sigh*
Pretty much. This is the only "main stream" release for debauchery that you'll see in the West. Even if you're an angelic, max humanity vampire, you still have to suck blood, interact with floozies and the black market, and occasionally sell some shady stuff to get through things.
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This game has always interested me. I have seen some glowing talk about it in this forum. But my computer is crap. How powerful of a computer do you need to run this bad larry?
And does it let you be a total son of a bitch to everyone? And drink their blood at the same time?
Cause, that would kick ass.
The game is based on the Half-Life 2 engine for a rough equivalent of what to expect performance wise. It runs worse than HL2 itself though. So we're talking about tech that's a number of years old by now.
Not quite everyone. Some people are smart enough to do things like have bullet proof glass and other security measures in place so you can't sink your fangs into them. Or it just wouldn't be a good idea to drink their blood.
While you often can be an asshole to people, it's really more about being a manipulative bastard than being a total douchebag.
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Holy crap! That sounds like a blast. I am totally going to look into this game now. Thanks!
EDIT: DAMN! It's like, $50 on Amazon, yikes!
I haven't finished it, but the part where he
Your mind will be blown when you finish it.
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The Animal Crossing one is the most important work undertaken by man, and the pinnacle of our achievements as a species. I didn't listen to the voice overs the first time through, and I fully intend to go back to it just for that.
Oh, and V:tM: Bloodlines is $20 on Steam.
All right, people. It is not a gerbil. It is not a hamster. It is not a guinea pig. It is a death rabbit. Death. Rabbit. Say it with me, now.
My mind was thoroughly blown, I must say.
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