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How much would Japanese MTG cards be worth I wonder....

halkunhalkun Registered User regular
edited October 2008 in Social Entropy++
Waaay back in 1995, I decided to make an investment in Magic cards. At the time I was living in Japan, and thought a real creative investment would be to buy "the whole set" in Japanese.

Every weekend I went to Yokohama and bought a whole box of Japanese cards. (I think it was about $100 per box). I then went home and very carefully put them into order of color and then Japanese alphabetical order. I did this about 6 times. (I remember my final cost was ~$600 when I got the last card I needed.)

So now it's 2008 and I wonder how my investment is doing, but I'm having problems finding out how much something like this would be worth. Here's some stats I could come up with.

1) The set is 4th edition, but this was the first set that was ever printed in Japanese.
2) The cards have never been used. I don't know how to play MTG and never took them out of my binder after I organized them,
3) To keep things neat in my binder, I use a bunch of cards "front to front" to create a "blank" so that the different colors line up on proper pages. Because I don't play the game, and don't know what is rare and what isn't, I may have "hidden rares" in my binder.
4) I have all the cards, plus two boxes of extras. the boxes have been sitting upright for the last decade or so, so the cards are not warped and are perfectly stacked.

Does anyone know of a price guide I can look up?

halkun on
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  • WhippyWhippy Moderator, Admin Emeritus Admin Emeritus
    edited October 2008
    which ones do you have

    everything hinges on this

    when you say ''the whole set''

    what the fuck does that mean

    school yourself on the lingo

    Whippy on
  • Fubar'dFubar'd Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    i dunno but i bet you wasted a whole bunch of money

    Fubar'd on
  • halkunhalkun Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I have the entire 4th edition in Japanese. That's 378 Cards. I then have about 400-600 more extra. I might even be able to construct a whole other set, but I may be missing a card or two.

    halkun on
  • The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    they're worth nothing but immense piles of shame bucks

    The Lovely Bastard on
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  • MarathonMarathon Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    If you have something really rare you might be in luck. It probably means jack shit that it's the Japanese set.

    Marathon on
  • halkunhalkun Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    It was $600 over a decade ago. I spent more money on dumber shit than that in my lifetime :) I'm not too worried if it's worthless.

    halkun on
  • halkunhalkun Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Huh, the Japanese version also has all the demon markings and such when it was banned in the US.

    halkun on
  • Agent VesagoAgent Vesago Half Iago. Half Fu Manchu. All Bastard. Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Scrye is a CCG checklist and price guide magazine. I don't know if it is still in print or if they have listings for foreign cards but it would be a place to start. If it is still around.

    Edit: Found a link to their website. here.

    Agent Vesago on
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  • sarukunsarukun RIESLING OCEANRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I'm not entirely certain that the value of the cards hangs on "completing the set" or what have you.


    You might want to hang onto those for a couple of decades, when the rarity really drives up the value.

    sarukun on
  • Fubar'dFubar'd Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    shouldn't this be in critical failures

    who the fuck cares

    Fubar'd on
  • MarathonMarathon Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Fubar'd wrote: »
    shouldn't this be in critical failures

    who the fuck cares

    Don't like the thread, don't post in it.

    Marathon on
  • redfenixredfenix Aka'd as rfix Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Marathon wrote: »
    Fubar'd wrote: »
    shouldn't this be in critical failures

    who the fuck cares

    Don't like the thread, don't post in it.

    Don't like the post, don't quote it.

    wait, shit.

    redfenix on
  • MarathonMarathon Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    redfenix wrote: »
    Marathon wrote: »
    Fubar'd wrote: »
    shouldn't this be in critical failures

    who the fuck cares

    Don't like the thread, don't post in it.

    Don't like the post, don't quote it.

    wait, shit.

    don't start nothin, won't be nothin.

    Marathon on
  • redfenixredfenix Aka'd as rfix Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Marathon wrote: »
    redfenix wrote: »
    Marathon wrote: »
    Fubar'd wrote: »
    shouldn't this be in critical failures

    who the fuck cares

    Don't like the thread, don't post in it.

    Don't like the post, don't quote it.

    wait, shit.

    don't start nothin, won't be nothin.

    Ahahahahhahhhhahhh

    serious business

    ok, i'm done here.

    redfenix on
  • Meta T. DustMeta T. Dust Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Marathon wrote: »
    redfenix wrote: »
    Marathon wrote: »
    Fubar'd wrote: »
    shouldn't this be in critical failures

    who the fuck cares

    Don't like the thread, don't post in it.

    Don't like the post, don't quote it.

    wait, shit.

    don't start nothin, won't be nothin.

    won't stop, can't stop.

    uhuh uhuh

    Bad boyz for life

    Meta T. Dust on
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  • MarathonMarathon Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Ok, im confused. You know I was just quoting a line from a song right?

    Marathon on
  • potatoepotatoe Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    i always enjoyed having a couple foreign cards lying around
    i had a rancor that i would use in a deck that was all crazy symbols everywhere

    potatoe on
  • jwalkjwalk Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Why you gotta be eatin up galaxies and er'rything?

    I don't know much about Japanese cards, but US 4th ed. cards are worth next to nothing (I know, because I have suitcases full of them) unless they are the "rares" and even then only maybe a couple of bucks per card.

    Maybe you could sell the whole thing as a "set" and it's worth more to some collector that way, I dunno.

    The only real MTG cards worth big bucks (and we're talking $300 maybe more) are the original, first-run, black-border ones, printed by some Swiss printer or something on much better paper etc etc.. Especially the "power 5" or 6 or whatever that were later banned for tourney play (ie Black Lotus, Mox, etc).

    jwalk on
  • potatoepotatoe Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    i knew a guy with 2 black lotus cards
    i used to do lawn work for him
    i envied him

    potatoe on
  • sarukunsarukun RIESLING OCEANRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    See right now you're in the long wait. Nobody plays that set any more, so demand for the cards themselves is dogshit.


    Only way you're going to see a return on your investment is if you a) actually play or b) you wait 300 years and have the only complete set of Japanese MTG cards on the entire planet.

    sarukun on
  • #pipe#pipe Cocky Stride, Musky odours Pope of Chili TownRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    potatoe wrote: »
    i knew a guy with 2 black lotus cards
    i used to do lawn work for him
    i envied him

    a friend of mine's got two Black Lotuses.

    His pride and joy is a foil Bird of Paradise

    #pipe on
  • jwalkjwalk Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Seriously, I'll sell you a shopping bag full of Revised/"3rd ed." and 4th ed. basic lands for ...... a ham sammich.

    jwalk on
  • potatoepotatoe Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    sometimes i miss my nice little stack of rares
    but they are in a better place now
    (trent's grubby hands)

    potatoe on
  • jwalkjwalk Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I played with a guy at work in 1995-96 that had all the good rare shit. Spent thousand of dollars on that shit. Bought boxes and boxes of every new set that came out.

    He was kind of a dick to play with, because his decks were fucking ridiculous and he always thought he should win.

    He was like the NY Yankees of Magic.

    jwalk on
  • Mister LongbaughMister Longbaugh Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    magic is the worst.

    Mister Longbaugh on
  • STATE OF THE ART ROBOTSTATE OF THE ART ROBOT Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I don't get all the MTG hate. It is still a hella fun game.

    STATE OF THE ART ROBOT on
  • #pipe#pipe Cocky Stride, Musky odours Pope of Chili TownRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    The last time I played my buddy with the 2 lotuses

    motherfucker hit me with infinite damage

    #pipe on
  • jwalkjwalk Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    You know what else is hella fun?

    Heroin.

    jwalk on
  • Cosmic SombreroCosmic Sombrero Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    magic costs way more than warhammer if you play long enough

    Cosmic Sombrero on
  • halkunhalkun Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Here a pic of the collection.

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    So the cards go obsolete? That's odd. As for learning to play the game, I'll pass. It's a two player game anyway. It's kind of worthless if I don't have anyone to play with.

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  • STATE OF THE ART ROBOTSTATE OF THE ART ROBOT Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    The worst deck I played was a Tolarian Academy deck that made me draw 68 cards on turn 3.

    STATE OF THE ART ROBOT on
  • jwalkjwalk Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I kinda lost interest when it became apparent that they rigged all these bullshit expansions and shit just to get people to buy more and more cards every 6 months.

    I mean what was it, Ice Age or something, where they printed the same old cards, only with new artwork.. the fuck is THAT? Yeah, sorry, no.

    And then if you play "type 2" is it? You can only use cards from the last 2 sets or something. Yeah THAT'S not setup to make your cards intentionally obsolete... And the bitch of it is, if you don't play Type 2 you're playing Type 1 against aformentioned Assholes with Every Fucking Card Ever.

    jwalk on
  • Mister LongbaughMister Longbaugh Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    magic costs way more than warhammer if you play long enough

    anyways warhammer is for real men. men with an understanding of war and violence

    Mister Longbaugh on
  • potatoepotatoe Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    i used to have a totally bitchin' deck
    spent like $300 on it to get the few cards i needed

    80% of the time i won by turn 3-4
    20% of the time i killed myself by turn 3-4

    potatoe on
  • FalloutFallout GIRL'S DAY WAS PRETTY GOOD WHILE THEY LASTEDRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    i got a couple starter decks in the late 90s

    gonna go dig through some boxes for them real quick.......

    Fallout on
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  • STATE OF THE ART ROBOTSTATE OF THE ART ROBOT Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Everyone knows drafting is the best way to play MTG.

    STATE OF THE ART ROBOT on
  • Cosmic SombreroCosmic Sombrero Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Everyone knows drafting is the best way to play MTG.

    pretty much, otherwise shit is just ridiculous

    Cosmic Sombrero on
  • jwalkjwalk Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Yeah the cards go "obsolete" because of the rules of Type 2 tournaments, which is what everyone plays even casually (or did, back in the day).

    It's a catch 22. See they make Type 2 so that people who started playing in the last year or so can compete with people who've been playing forever. Type 2 rules say you can only play cards from the most current "basic" set and the last 2 "expansion" sets.

    It's good in theory, but when a new "basic" set comes out and you realize they just took out all of your favorite cards and now all your decks are fucking useless piles of wood pulp and nobody will play with you... it uh.. sucks.

    jwalk on
  • halkunhalkun Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    ...and it amuses me to no end that I don't know how to play. I really don't see how everyone gets all jazzed about the game. I just wanted to collect all the cards one day, and bought them. The pictures were pretty.

    halkun on
  • potatoepotatoe Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    halkun
    you are such a girl

    potatoe on
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