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Star Wars MMO, take two (Republic Troopers within)

captainkcaptaink TexasRegistered User regular
edited June 2009 in MMO Extravaganza
It's for real!

http://www.swtor.com/

Not very much concrete info yet.

Ign has a preview series going: http://pc.ign.com/articles/922/922115p1.html


Original OP:
So the worst kept secret in gaming is going to be formally disclosed soon.

http://www.massively.com/2008/10/07/check-out-our-bioware-lucasarts-announcement-invite/

Bioware and Lucasarts have a joint announcement for us on October 21. It's 99% likely that it is about a new Star Wars MMO set in the Knights of the Old Republic era.


Will it be better than Star Wars Galaxies? How could it not be?

Will it be good? Well, that remains to be seen. It's Bioware, so that gives me a lot of hope. They haven't made a bad game yet. But this is a new area for them, and it's being made by a new studio of theirs.


Commence baseless speculation and love/hate for Bioware.

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    GnomeTankGnomeTank What the what? Portland, OregonRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    The lettering on that initiation is even done in the Star Wars font.

    It's so a new Star Wars MMO.

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    captainkcaptaink TexasRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Well it's obviously a Star Wars game given that Lucasarts is involved. The question is, "is it an MMO?" Bioware's recent opening of an MMO studio, which has no announced projects yet, points to "Yes it is."

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    GnomeTankGnomeTank What the what? Portland, OregonRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    LucasArts does have other properties, besides Star Wars :P Shocking, I know...but LucasArts being involved doesn't automatically make it Star Wars. That font on the invitation card does though.

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    Oh c'mon FyreWulff, no one's gonna pay to visit Uranus.
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    captainkcaptaink TexasRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Indiana Jones? Pssh.

    I didn't realize fracture was theirs, though.

    Regardless, Star Wars is a given.

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    GnomeTankGnomeTank What the what? Portland, OregonRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I dunno, an Indiana Jones MMO might be pretty awesome.

    Indiana Jones: The Search for Overpowered Epic

    They could have a dungeon where you fight Nazi's.

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    Oh c'mon FyreWulff, no one's gonna pay to visit Uranus.
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    captainkcaptaink TexasRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Whip spec is imba, nerf plz.

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    HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Didn't Bioware already spill the beans on the Star Wars MMO?

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    BigityBigity Lubbock, TXRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Maybe it's a TIE Fighter mmo. lolz

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    GnomeTankGnomeTank What the what? Portland, OregonRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Bigity wrote: »
    Maybe it's a TIE Fighter mmo. lolz

    You mean Star Wars Galaxies: Jump To Lightspeed?

    Sorry, I had to.

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    Sagroth wrote: »
    Oh c'mon FyreWulff, no one's gonna pay to visit Uranus.
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    HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    Bigity wrote: »
    Maybe it's a TIE Fighter mmo. lolz

    You mean Star Wars Galaxies: Jump To Lightspeed?

    Sorry, I had to.

    I hate you so much.

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    captainkcaptaink TexasRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Henroid wrote: »
    Didn't Bioware already spill the beans on the Star Wars MMO?

    There hasn't ever been an official announcement, just a lot of clues like copyrighting names and stuff.

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    AldoAldo Hippo Hooray Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    I dunno, an Indiana Jones MMO might be pretty awesome.

    Indiana Jones: The Search for Overpowered Epic

    They could have a dungeon where you fight Nazi's.
    +3 Helmet of Strength has dropped
    /roll
    You win!
    /y IT BELONGS IN A MUSEUM

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    Would a MMO during the Mandalorian Wars work?

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    GnomeTankGnomeTank What the what? Portland, OregonRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Aldo wrote: »
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    I dunno, an Indiana Jones MMO might be pretty awesome.

    Indiana Jones: The Search for Overpowered Epic

    They could have a dungeon where you fight Nazi's.
    +3 Helmet of Strength has dropped
    /roll
    You win!
    /y IT BELONGS IN A MUSEUM

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    Would a MMO during the Mandalorian Wars work?

    Only if it has awesome PvP and we can play the Mandalorian's.

    That would actually be an AWESOME PvP MMO. Star Wars: The Mandalorian Wars. What force in the universe is martially capable of handling the Jedi? Why, the Mandalorian's are. It solves the problem of Jedi being so powerful, it's all anyone will play.

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    Oh c'mon FyreWulff, no one's gonna pay to visit Uranus.
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    AldoAldo Hippo Hooray Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    Only if it has awesome PvP and we can play the Mandalorian's.

    That would actually be an AWESOME PvP MMO. Star Wars: The Mandalorian Wars. What force in the universe is martially capable of handling the Jedi? Why, the Mandalorian's are. It solves the problem of Jedi being so powerful, it's all anyone will play.
    's what I'm sayin' you have awesome jedis on the one hand who cut your shit up and on the other hand you've got these heavy armoured bastards who eat jedis for breakfast. I for one wouldn't know whose side to pick.

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    BigityBigity Lubbock, TXRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Let anyone have Jedi. Then make cortosis a common drop. Uh oh! Hard to deflect a blaster when your lightsaber won't stay on sucka!

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    widowsonwidowson Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Aldo wrote: »
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    Only if it has awesome PvP and we can play the Mandalorian's.

    That would actually be an AWESOME PvP MMO. Star Wars: The Mandalorian Wars. What force in the universe is martially capable of handling the Jedi? Why, the Mandalorian's are. It solves the problem of Jedi being so powerful, it's all anyone will play.
    's what I'm sayin' you have awesome jedis on the one hand who cut your shit up and on the other hand you've got these heavy armoured bastards who eat jedis for breakfast. I for one wouldn't know whose side to pick.


    Those would be *highly trained* heavy armoured bastards who eat jedis for breakfast, ner'vode.

    And yes, I'd give up spare organs to refight the jedi-mando'a conflict.

    I can even predict how it would go. Galactic republic = alliance on WoW vrs. Mandalorian clans = Horde on WoW.

    Mandos would be a bunch of hardcore, stone-cold, psycho, PKing, pipe-hitting motherfuckers outnumbered by hordes of lightsaber-wielding twi'lek assclowns who enjoy "l3zbean h@wt cyberz" using Force Push and Force levitation.

    Let's just say I'd run out of room on my bes'kar belt for all the lightsaber trophies gained by sniping half-naked aliens in the fucking grape.

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    JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I just hope it is something other than a PVE driven open-world MMO with talent trees.

    Can we be original for one second please, Bioware, I know you can deliver this.


    Bioware has an advantage because basically anything they do will be perceived as better than SWG.


    In my mind, the best thing they can do is guarantee fully fledged and depthful space combat at release. That's basically the only thing that will get my attention.

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    -SPI--SPI- Osaka, JapanRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Bigity wrote: »
    Let anyone have Jedi. Then make cortosis a common drop. Uh oh! Hard to deflect a blaster when your lightsaber won't stay on sucka!
    It would fit with Kotor, every single fucker in the universe used a cortosis weaved sword in those games.

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    widowsonwidowson Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Jasconius wrote: »
    I just hope it is something other than a PVE driven open-world MMO with talent trees.

    Can we be original for one second please, Bioware, I know you can deliver this.


    Bioware has an advantage because basically anything they do will be perceived as better than SWG.


    In my mind, the best thing they can do is guarantee fully fledged and depthful space combat at release. That's basically the only thing that will get my attention.


    I think a hybrid of the class/combat system in Jade Empire and Mass Effect would work. One for the hand-to-hand, the other for guns.

    Oh, and just because I jerk-off to Mandalorian stuff, the /dance animation for Mandalorian characters and some of the music for combat *must* be the Dha Werda Verda.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67XPpJ7sluE

    Mando'a

    Taung sa rang broka jetiise ka'rta.
    Dha Werda Verda a'den tratu,
    Coruscanta kandosii adu.
    Duum motir ca'tra nau tracinya.
    Gra'tua cuun hett su dralshy'a.

    Kom'rk tsad droten troch nyn ures adenn.
    Dha Werda Verda a'den tratu,
    Coruscanta kandosii adu.
    Duum motir ca'tra nau tracinya.
    Gra'tua cuun hett su dralshy'a.


    Translation (sub Coruscant for Maldalore):

    The ash of the Taung beats strong within the Mandalorians' heart.
    We are the rage of The Warriors of the Shadow,
    The first noble sons of Mandalore.
    Let all those who stand before us light the night sky in flame.
    Our vengeance burns brighter still.


    The gauntlet of Mandalore strikes without mercy.
    We are the rage of The Warriors of the Shadow,
    The first noble sons of Mandalore.
    Let all those who stand before us light the night sky in flame.
    Our vengeance burns brighter still.

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    delrolanddelroland Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I'm assuming cortosis will be an assumed aspect of gear so that lightsabers will be balanced.

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    delrolanddelroland Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Jasconius wrote: »
    In my mind, the best thing they can do is guarantee fully fledged and depthful space combat at release. That's basically the only thing that will get my attention.

    Space combat is not nearly as prevalent in the KotOR era. Sure, there were some space battles, but nowhere near the same scope as the Clone Wars or Rebellion era. A vast majority of the battles were fought on the ground, with only token space battles to remove orbital defenses and blockade the deployment of reinforcements. This was partially forced by Mandalorian combat doctrine.

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    HilleanHillean Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Aldo wrote: »
    +3 Helmet of Strength has dropped
    /roll
    You win!
    /y IT BELONGS IN A MUSEUM

    I'm sorry but I can't help but crack up reading this

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    AldoAldo Hippo Hooray Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    You know, Jade Empire's combat would be interesting in an MMO, but the graphic engine would be very interesting. Facial expressions and overall style would work pretty well I think.

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    HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Jasconius wrote: »
    I just hope it is something other than a PVE driven open-world MMO with talent trees.

    This makes me want to type out terrible, terrible things.

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    SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Jasconius wrote: »
    I just hope it is something other than a PVE driven open-world MMO with talent trees.

    Can we be original for one second please, Bioware, I know you can deliver this.


    Bioware has an advantage because basically anything they do will be perceived as better than SWG.


    In my mind, the best thing they can do is guarantee fully fledged and depthful space combat at release. That's basically the only thing that will get my attention.

    I suppose they could make it a puzzle adventure game.

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    GranakGranak Lubbock, TXRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    If Bioware is the force behind such a proposed MMO then I'm all for it.
    Man. SWG let me down. Lucas let me down first with that god damned Phanton Menace, and then my hopes were dashed by friggin' SWG.

    As long as it does not resemble the latest incarnation of the Clone Wars in any shape or form whatsoever... I will play it.

    I predict a cantina-based rhythm mini-game!

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    GungHoGungHo Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    It's gonna be Full Throttle Online.

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    Operative21Operative21 Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Well, if they do choose to set the game in the Old Republic era, there are some definite design benefits. Outside of the source material from Knights of the Old Republic, and the Tales of the Jedi comic books the setting itself is relatively undeveloped. The developers (whoever they may be) would have much more freedom in customizing the setting to their needs.

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    widowsonwidowson Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Well, if they do choose to set the game in the Old Republic era, there are some definite design benefits. Outside of the source material from Knights of the Old Republic, and the Tales of the Jedi comic books the setting itself is relatively undeveloped. The developers (whoever they may be) would have much more freedom in customizing the setting to their needs.


    :^:


    I also think they could make another Sith vrs Jedi war with PCs taking either side.

    Much as I'd like a Mando vrs. Republic war, we know how that one ends so a Sith/Jedi conflict with Mandalorian clans taking whatever side pays the best would work for me.

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    BasilBasil Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Watch them take a completely different route and force all the players to be down trodden scum of the underworld living in constant terror that another one of those damnable, unstoppable jedi will tear through their hives in another insane quest for justice, peace and understanding.

    I feel so sorry for their npcs, sometimes.

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    delrolanddelroland Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    It makes me wonder, though, if BioWare will include some sort of alignment system, where your character starts out as good but then chooses whether to be Light Side/Dark Side/Paragon/Renegade/Fist/Palm/whatever, or if you will simply choose your faction at the start.

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    AldoAldo Hippo Hooray Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    delroland wrote: »
    It makes me wonder, though, if BioWare will include some sort of alignment system, where your character starts out as good but then chooses whether to be Light Side/Dark Side/Paragon/Renegade/Fist/Palm/whatever, or if you will simply choose your faction at the start.
    It isn't a Bioware game without some blatantly obvious moral choices, huh?

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    GungHoGungHo Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    The character creation screen will be like the old Ultima gypsy wagon screens where you can choose what action you would take in a given situation.

    e.g. You see a puppy walking down the road. He is wimpering and seems lost. You ____
    Adopt the puppy, feed it pot roast, and you grow old together, until the original owner shows up and you then forfeit the puppy and give the original owner 1 million credits in arrears for puppy rental.

    Keep on driving.

    Let Satan take the wheel.

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    nourishnourish Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Anyone know if they will be using the Star Wars Roleplaying Game paper-rpg from wizards of the coast? Didn't kotor use something like a d20 starwars paper-rpg as the framework? (I never got around to playing it)

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    captainkcaptaink TexasRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    nourish wrote: »
    Anyone know if they will be using the Star Wars Roleplaying Game paper-rpg from wizards of the coast? Didn't kotor use something like a d20 starwars paper-rpg as the framework? (I never got around to playing it)

    Pretty much, yeah. Everyone had Str/Dex/Con/Wis/Int/Cha and stuff was based on D20 rolls.

    As for the MMO, it seems unlikely, but they certainly could.

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    Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Isn't the post-Mandalorian/Jedi Civil War the obvious period for this to be set in? There's plenty of backstory about it, but not a ton of stuff written during the conflict itself.

    It would provide a good excuse for faction PvP (Jedi/Sith/Mandalorian(?), it solves the Jedi problem decently well, and lets lore nerds get their rocks off seeing all the stuff they've been seeing references to in novels and the KOTOR games.

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    Mild ConfusionMild Confusion Smash All Things Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    It would be cool if they had both Jedi and non-Jedi classes.

    Maybe the 3-6 Jedi starting classes as well as the 3 non-Jedi starting classes.

    I'm hoping for something more like an enhanced version of Mass Effects combat system, skill based with stats that increase your damage/health/ect.

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    MorninglordMorninglord I'm tired of being Batman, so today I'll be Owl.Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Basil wrote: »
    Watch them take a completely different route and force all the players to be down trodden scum of the underworld living in constant terror that another one of those damnable, unstoppable jedi will tear through their hives in another insane quest for justice, peace and understanding.

    I feel so sorry for their npcs, sometimes.

    I want to be this Jedi. It's ok.

    I wont be leet kiddie about it.

    I might laugh a bit.

    But that's all.

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    SmashismSmashism Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    GungHo wrote: »
    It's gonna be Full Throttle Online.

    NOOOOoooo Noooo.

    /sobbing :cry:

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    INeedNoSaltINeedNoSalt with blood on my teeth Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    Would a MMO during the Mandalorian Wars work?

    Only if it has awesome PvP and we can play the Mandalorian's.

    That would actually be an AWESOME PvP MMO. Star Wars: The Mandalorian Wars. What force in the universe is martially capable of handling the Jedi? Why, the Mandalorian's are. It solves the problem of Jedi being so powerful, it's all anyone will play.

    but the mandalorians lost once the Jedi got involved

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