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The American Presidency: Get 'em!
Elki
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Words you are unlikely to see me post in the next pages of this thread: "X is off-topic," because I'm just going to warn you here. This thread is a bitch to keep up with and mod when it's on-topic, and impossible when people use it as a dumping ground for any political news story. If it's not directly related to Obama v. McCain don't post it.
Think it's really important, and still want to post it?
AND NO BLUE DOTTING!
OK? Glad we got that cleared up.
The Economist.com wrote:WE HAVE had some intra-blog debate about the responsibility of politicians for the things their supporters shout out. When a random atendee at a Sarah Palin rally hollered a racial slur at a black cameraman, one colleague wrote, in a post called "Sarah Palin and the random racist",If the tenuous connection between Barack Obama and Bill Ayer's vile past is a frivolous argument, as most if not all of us mystery bloggers have argued, then we should be careful not to make too much out of obnoxious bigots in a Palin crowd.
Over at The Atlantic, similar intra-magazine disagreements surfaced when Andrew Sullivan deplored some of the racism seeping up through the cracks lately. Ta-Nahisi Coates (who is black) wroteThis is like when some fool from your local news affiliate goes to interview someone in a black neighborhood and they pick out the most ignorant fool they can find. That dumbass is then taken as representative for us all.
Both Mr Coates and my colleague, with "random racist" and "the most ignorant fool they can find", write this down to a bad apple or two in a crowd. Another colleague muses hopefully that "In fact, as the final weeks of this campaign unfold, it looks more and more like we're seeing the ugly final spasms of the culture wars."
Unfortunately, I am not so relaxed. More evidence is surfacing that whole McCain-Palin crowds are increasingly comfortable calling Barack Obama a "terrorist" (not just a friend to a terrorist) , "commie faggot" and similar. Look how many people repeat the theme, in these two videos (from Ohio and Pennsylvania).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjxzmaXAg9E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itEucdhf4Us
Add these two scenes, in your minds, to the racial slur and "kill him!" seen in Ft. Meyers, Florida. Add this scene, in New Mexico, where John McCain asks who "the real Barack Obama" is and someone screams "terrorist!" One after the other after the other. Around the country. Boldly, stepping out to vent at a political rally in front of cameras, not being sought out in their communities.
Mr McCain and Ms Palin are not playing with fire. They are handing out fire to drunken, angry crowds. If someone's house gets burned down they will point to the fire-safety pamphlet that was free for the taking at the entry to their rallies. (Ms Palin: Sure, Mr Obama is not a terrorist but "This election is about the truthfulness and judgment needed in our next president.") Would you accept that as a defence?
I miss the days when Obama supporters were the mindless mob.
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I hope he makes them cost a lot more less or more.
pleasepaypreacher.net
Which one...is it? Someone was telling me that he had some plan to implement heavy taxes on ammunition but I don't know if it's just police bias that i'm hearing or an actual plan.
Haha I love you.
Zogby being a mouth breather and possibly the worst looking John McCain photo ever.
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I have absolutely no faith that they will. The bright side (?) is that the media is starting to pick up on it.
Hm. I was talking to a friend and his entire police station refuses to vote Obama based on the idea that he intends to implement harsh gun control laws and apply steep taxes to ammunition and guns.
we won't know until we find out if it works.
We don't need Kool Aid.
We have hopium
This was followed by him driving to the station, and screaming and raving like a madman (off camera, unfortunatley).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-PCC_j0Lrw
And just so I can add to anyone who cant/doesnt want to watch the video. We found out AFTER we reported his initial numbers, and ON THE AIR.
His error? Of course was in the republicans favor.
Yeah some clintonistas weren't really welcoming to Obama (the hillaryis44 set) but Obama doesn't run the little hate fests the Palin campaign is embracing.
pleasepaypreacher.net
The equivalent would be people who think McCain is a Manchurian Candidate who was brainwashed by the Vietnamese.
You're damn right there's not as many of them around.
Its scary. These people are ANGRY.
So is it my civic duty to make an attempt to ensure that an entire precinct does not vote on a misconception?
They assumed each country was a state with a population-based number of electoral votes, and had a say in the 2008 election. The result:
Obama: 8,501
McCain: 16
Reminds me of our second debate poll.
pleasepaypreacher.net
I figure if Obama supporters keep showing up to protest and people videotape it, we are a few days away from a violent confrontation caught on camera.
So I figure CNN is being "fair and balanced" and trying to make McCains rallys out to be normal and Obama having an equal number of flaming racists?
pleasepaypreacher.net
Goddamn right it is.
Like SD said, it's hard to find any.
I'm thinking of taking off work tomorrow to see Barack in the C-bus, Ohio.
Let 'em eat fucking pineapples!
Ahh hopium; the drug of choice for any half dead art student
NNID: Hakkekage
It was an internet poll, man.
Though, I suspect more scientific results wouldn't be far from it.
The guy that does it was on the colbert report the other day. It takes the polls and then weights them for demographics. Has Obama winning in 90.7% of the senarios.
apparently they also think zogby sucks, saying they add around a 5 point error. The only polls worse is the colombusdispatch.
but they're listening to every word I say
Oh, I don't know, the graphs have just been on like every other page so far for the last 300 pages or so. :P
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/10/09/obama-the-socialist-new-party-and-the-socialist-bush-treasury-department/
We like 538 and you are right to like 538.
I don't know if you've noticed, but birds fly and water is wet.
but seriously 538 is our snuffbox of hopium
NNID: Hakkekage
Oh but he does oppose concealed carry. That'll never fly.
Sweet monkey nut, Missouri and Indiana are blue and West Virginia is a hazy hazy pink.