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  • GoslingGosling Looking Up Soccer In Mongolia Right Now, Probably Watertown, WIRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    John McCain responds to Obama's video game ads!

    I particularly like:

    mccain-5.jpg
    Seriously, we should just make a Photoshop contest thread for this. There are too many possibilities.

    Gosling on
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  • HedgethornHedgethorn Associate Professor of Historical Hobby Horses In the Lions' DenRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Mitt Romney refuses to use the "socialist" label for Obama on CNN just now. Is the McCain campaign now retreating from that line of attack too?

    Hedgethorn on
  • TomantaTomanta Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Sean Hannity had Joe the Plumber on a few minutes ago (maybe he's still on, dunno). I only bring this up because Joe was defending Obama and saying what I think are the biggest complaints about McCain - McCain is spending all of his time attacking Obama, has not detailed what he will do on the economy. If all the focus is on Obama, if so many people have donated money, if COLIN POWELL has endorsed him, then there must be something there.

    Hannity gave his talking points and then started to attack Powell ("He's either changed or has bought into the rhetoric"). That's when I shut him off and came back into work.

    The election really has become a referrendum on Obama, which should make his 2012 run a piece of cake, since it'll be the same campaign...

    Tomanta on
  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Hedgethorn wrote: »
    Mitt Romney refuses to use the "socialist" label for Obama on CNN just now. Is the McCain campaign now retreating from that line of attack too?

    Or is Mitt getting the hell off the sinking ship to set up his 2012 run. Exciting!

    enlightenedbum on
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  • GoslingGosling Looking Up Soccer In Mongolia Right Now, Probably Watertown, WIRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Tomanta wrote: »
    Sean Hannity had Joe the Plumber on a few minutes ago (maybe he's still on, dunno). I only bring this up because Joe was defending Obama and saying what I think are the biggest complaints about McCain - McCain is spending all of his time attacking Obama, has not detailed what he will do on the economy. If all the focus is on Obama, if so many people have donated money, if COLIN POWELL has endorsed him, then there must be something there.

    Hannity gave his talking points and then started to attack Powell ("He's either changed or has bought into the rhetoric"). That's when I shut him off and came back into work.

    The election really has become a referrendum on Obama, which should make his 2012 run a piece of cake, since it'll be the same campaign...
    ...for him, anyway. The other guy will have to hope he screws something up because Ayers and Wright aren't going to get a damn bit of traction four years from now if Obama turns out to have done a generally good job.

    "Obama's just waiting to destroy this country! He's friends with Bill Ayers!"
    "Yeah, and if he wanted to destroy it, he'd have done it by now. STFU."

    Gosling on
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  • tsmvengytsmvengy Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    tuxkamen wrote: »
    Rele wrote: »
    Joe Chemo wrote: »
    Wait watching MSNBC just now and they're talking about everyone's health records and they said Obama is a smoker. Did he pick it up again or did they misspeak there?

    I just read the NY Times' newest health article -- it said he's having trouble quitting. He doesn't carry cigs but does bum them off other people. He chews a lot of nicorette.
    I'd be honored to have Obama bum a smoke off me. What's more average Joe than sharing a fag with your chosen political candidate?

    You leave Larry [strike]Sinclair[/strike] Craig out of this.

    <ba-dum-tish.>

    tsmvengy on
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  • ScooterScooter Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    Scooter wrote: »
    Cantido wrote: »
    Wait watching MSNBC just now and they're talking about everyone's health records and they said Obama is a smoker. Did he pick it up again or did they misspeak there?

    WHAT.

    This is the worst smear against Obama yet!
    I assume you're joking, but my wife actually used it as part of her rationalization for voting Clinton in the Primary.

    Actually I care more about this than Ayers, Rezko and Wright put together.

    Not because it affects his policy decisions, but because I feel like I gotta dock a guy a few points for getting addicted to cigarettes, or anything really.

    Scooter on
  • ElJeffeElJeffe Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2008
    Rele wrote: »
    Joe Chemo wrote: »
    Wait watching MSNBC just now and they're talking about everyone's health records and they said Obama is a smoker. Did he pick it up again or did they misspeak there?

    I just read the NY Times' newest health article -- it said he's having trouble quitting. He doesn't carry cigs but does bum them off other people. He chews a lot of nicorette.
    I'd be honored to have Obama bum a smoke off me. What's more average Joe than sharing a fag with your chosen political candidate?

    Just ask Charlie Crist!

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  • ScooterScooter Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Scooter wrote: »
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    Scooter wrote: »
    Cantido wrote: »
    Wait watching MSNBC just now and they're talking about everyone's health records and they said Obama is a smoker. Did he pick it up again or did they misspeak there?

    WHAT.

    This is the worst smear against Obama yet!
    I assume you're joking, but my wife actually used it as part of her rationalization for voting Clinton in the Primary.

    Actually I care more about this than Ayers, Rezko and Wright put together.

    Not because it affects his policy decisions, but because I feel like I gotta dock a guy a few points for getting addicted to cigarettes, or anything really.

    Also: I feel kinda stupid seeing this post together with my avatar.

    Scooter on
  • tuxkamentuxkamen really took this picture. Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    ElJeffe wrote: »
    Rele wrote: »
    Joe Chemo wrote: »
    Wait watching MSNBC just now and they're talking about everyone's health records and they said Obama is a smoker. Did he pick it up again or did they misspeak there?

    I just read the NY Times' newest health article -- it said he's having trouble quitting. He doesn't carry cigs but does bum them off other people. He chews a lot of nicorette.
    I'd be honored to have Obama bum a smoke off me. What's more average Joe than sharing a fag with your chosen political candidate?

    Just ask Charlie Crist!
    tuxkamen wrote:
    <ba-dum-tish.>

    tuxkamen on

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Scooter wrote: »
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    Scooter wrote: »
    Cantido wrote: »
    Wait watching MSNBC just now and they're talking about everyone's health records and they said Obama is a smoker. Did he pick it up again or did they misspeak there?

    WHAT.

    This is the worst smear against Obama yet!
    I assume you're joking, but my wife actually used it as part of her rationalization for voting Clinton in the Primary.

    Actually I care more about this than Ayers, Rezko and Wright put together.

    Not because it affects his policy decisions, but because I feel like I gotta dock a guy a few points for getting addicted to cigarettes, or anything really.

    Oh come on, we all have our addictions. And it was a generational thing, when he grew up cigarettes weren't known for the horrible cancerous deaths that they are today.

    Preacher on
    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

    pleasepaypreacher.net
  • TaramoorTaramoor Storyteller Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Scooter wrote: »
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    Scooter wrote: »
    Cantido wrote: »
    Wait watching MSNBC just now and they're talking about everyone's health records and they said Obama is a smoker. Did he pick it up again or did they misspeak there?

    WHAT.

    This is the worst smear against Obama yet!
    I assume you're joking, but my wife actually used it as part of her rationalization for voting Clinton in the Primary.

    Actually I care more about this than Ayers, Rezko and Wright put together.

    Not because it affects his policy decisions, but because I feel like I gotta dock a guy a few points for getting addicted to cigarettes, or anything really.


    You know who else smoked cigarettes?
    Jedbartlet.jpg

    Taramoor on
  • CauldCauld Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Scooter wrote: »
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    Scooter wrote: »
    Cantido wrote: »
    Wait watching MSNBC just now and they're talking about everyone's health records and they said Obama is a smoker. Did he pick it up again or did they misspeak there?

    WHAT.

    This is the worst smear against Obama yet!
    I assume you're joking, but my wife actually used it as part of her rationalization for voting Clinton in the Primary.

    Actually I care more about this than Ayers, Rezko and Wright put together.

    Not because it affects his policy decisions, but because I feel like I gotta dock a guy a few points for getting addicted to cigarettes, or anything really.

    I think just about all politicians are addictioned to something. Maybe not a substance, but certainly other things like adoration, attention, power, etc.

    Cauld on
  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    So on retarded fears, anyone else glad the Red Sox lost so that the McCain campaign isn't running around championing them as their own campaign?

    Preacher on
    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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  • ScooterScooter Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Preacher wrote: »
    Scooter wrote: »
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    Scooter wrote: »
    Cantido wrote: »
    Wait watching MSNBC just now and they're talking about everyone's health records and they said Obama is a smoker. Did he pick it up again or did they misspeak there?

    WHAT.

    This is the worst smear against Obama yet!
    I assume you're joking, but my wife actually used it as part of her rationalization for voting Clinton in the Primary.

    Actually I care more about this than Ayers, Rezko and Wright put together.

    Not because it affects his policy decisions, but because I feel like I gotta dock a guy a few points for getting addicted to cigarettes, or anything really.

    Oh come on, we all have our addictions. And it was a generational thing, when he grew up cigarettes weren't known for the horrible cancerous deaths that they are today.

    I'd buy that if we were talking about McCain.

    Scooter on
  • ScreamlineScreamline Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Hand written death threats left for a couple of Obama supporters in Chicago.

    Screamline on
  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Scooter wrote: »

    I'd buy that if we were talking about McCain.

    I'd say even more so for Obama, look at the 70's and hell even the 80s. All the cool people on TV smoked.

    Preacher on
    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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  • Joe ChemoJoe Chemo Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Screamline wrote: »
    Hand written death threats left for a couple of Obama supporters in Chicago.

    Stay classy, anonymous nutjobs.

    Joe Chemo on
  • HounHoun Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Preacher wrote: »
    Scooter wrote: »
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    Scooter wrote: »
    Cantido wrote: »
    Wait watching MSNBC just now and they're talking about everyone's health records and they said Obama is a smoker. Did he pick it up again or did they misspeak there?

    WHAT.

    This is the worst smear against Obama yet!
    I assume you're joking, but my wife actually used it as part of her rationalization for voting Clinton in the Primary.

    Actually I care more about this than Ayers, Rezko and Wright put together.

    Not because it affects his policy decisions, but because I feel like I gotta dock a guy a few points for getting addicted to cigarettes, or anything really.

    Oh come on, we all have our addictions. And it was a generational thing, when he grew up cigarettes weren't known for the horrible cancerous deaths that they are today.

    This is either a funny joke, or it's funny because it's not true in the slightest. I can't tell which.

    Either way, I'm not going to fault the guy for falling of the wagon. It's just a few cigs, and I'm confident he'll get it under control. It's not like he's bumming coke off campaign staff or something.

    Houn on
  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Screamline wrote: »
    Hand written death threats left for a couple of Obama supporters in Chicago.
    Political intimidation with that personal touch.

    OptimusZed on
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  • ElJeffeElJeffe Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2008
    Tomanta wrote: »
    The election really has become a referrendum on Obama, which should make his 2012 run a piece of cake, since it'll be the same campaign...

    This election is more than a referendum on Obama. It's also a referendum on Bush. The reason McCain is trying to make it a referendum on Obama is because he's tied intimately to Bush, whether fairly or not. The more people think of McCain, the more they think of Bush, and that's not a winning strategy.

    But to the extent it's a referendum on Obama, it's a referendum on his character and his potential. Both of those are pretty easy to run on - he's a charismatic and inherently cool individual and he's clearly a smart guy who has plans targeted directly at key demographics.

    In 2012, yes, it will be a referendum on Obama, just like it is with every incumbent. But it will be on his performance as president for the last 4 years, not just on how charming and affable he is. And that could be easy or hard to pull off, depending on not only how Obama does, but how kind fate is to him. He could be the most brilliant and able president ever, but if the economy continues to tank despite him making the correct decisions at every turn and keeping the tanking to a minimum, the public won't give a shit. He'll be out on his ass.

    That said, four years is a long time, and I think Obama will be able to turn things around if he's as competent as he sounds so far, especially with a cooperative congress. And if things are even marginally better than they are now, I think he has the political savvy to spin that in his favor and retake the WH. But it's far from a given. I mean, if the CDS market implodes, it's pretty much game over, so who knows?

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  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Houn wrote: »
    It's not like he's bumming coke off campaign staff or something.
    Cocaine's a Republican drug at this point, isn't it? More likely, he'd be scoring some X.

    OptimusZed on
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  • Joe ChemoJoe Chemo Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    It's not like he's bumming coke off campaign staff or something.

    I don't know -- he hasn't addressed his relationship with coke dealers at all. It should be looked into; I think the american people deserve to know the truth.

    Joe Chemo on
  • GlaealGlaeal Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Preacher wrote: »
    Scooter wrote: »
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    Scooter wrote: »
    Cantido wrote: »
    Wait watching MSNBC just now and they're talking about everyone's health records and they said Obama is a smoker. Did he pick it up again or did they misspeak there?

    WHAT.

    This is the worst smear against Obama yet!
    I assume you're joking, but my wife actually used it as part of her rationalization for voting Clinton in the Primary.

    Actually I care more about this than Ayers, Rezko and Wright put together.

    Not because it affects his policy decisions, but because I feel like I gotta dock a guy a few points for getting addicted to cigarettes, or anything really.

    Oh come on, we all have our addictions. And it was a generational thing, when he grew up cigarettes weren't known for the horrible cancerous deaths that they are today.

    I think the implication is that Ayers, Rezko, and Wright are so inconsequential that something involving Obama's health is actually noteworthy.

    Glaeal on
  • Rhesus PositiveRhesus Positive GNU Terry Pratchett Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Taramoor wrote: »
    Scooter wrote: »
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    Scooter wrote: »
    Cantido wrote: »
    Wait watching MSNBC just now and they're talking about everyone's health records and they said Obama is a smoker. Did he pick it up again or did they misspeak there?

    WHAT.

    This is the worst smear against Obama yet!
    I assume you're joking, but my wife actually used it as part of her rationalization for voting Clinton in the Primary.

    Actually I care more about this than Ayers, Rezko and Wright put together.

    Not because it affects his policy decisions, but because I feel like I gotta dock a guy a few points for getting addicted to cigarettes, or anything really.


    You know who else smoked cigarettes?
    Jedbartlet.jpg

    Martin Sheen?
    :P

    Rhesus Positive on
    [Muffled sounds of gorilla violence]
  • ElJeffeElJeffe Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2008
    Houn wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    Scooter wrote: »
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    Scooter wrote: »
    Cantido wrote: »
    Wait watching MSNBC just now and they're talking about everyone's health records and they said Obama is a smoker. Did he pick it up again or did they misspeak there?

    WHAT.

    This is the worst smear against Obama yet!
    I assume you're joking, but my wife actually used it as part of her rationalization for voting Clinton in the Primary.

    Actually I care more about this than Ayers, Rezko and Wright put together.

    Not because it affects his policy decisions, but because I feel like I gotta dock a guy a few points for getting addicted to cigarettes, or anything really.

    Oh come on, we all have our addictions. And it was a generational thing, when he grew up cigarettes weren't known for the horrible cancerous deaths that they are today.

    This is either a funny joke, or it's funny because it's not true in the slightest. I can't tell which.

    Either way, I'm not going to fault the guy for falling of the wagon. It's just a few cigs, and I'm confident he'll get it under control. It's not like he's bumming coke off campaign staff or something.

    Even if Obama said fuck it and gave every SOTU address with a smoking cigarette in his hand, I wouldn't care much. Let the dude have his one vice.

    ElJeffe on
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  • Joe ChemoJoe Chemo Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    ElJeffe wrote: »
    Houn wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    Scooter wrote: »
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    Scooter wrote: »
    Cantido wrote: »
    Wait watching MSNBC just now and they're talking about everyone's health records and they said Obama is a smoker. Did he pick it up again or did they misspeak there?

    WHAT.

    This is the worst smear against Obama yet!
    I assume you're joking, but my wife actually used it as part of her rationalization for voting Clinton in the Primary.

    Actually I care more about this than Ayers, Rezko and Wright put together.

    Not because it affects his policy decisions, but because I feel like I gotta dock a guy a few points for getting addicted to cigarettes, or anything really.

    Oh come on, we all have our addictions. And it was a generational thing, when he grew up cigarettes weren't known for the horrible cancerous deaths that they are today.

    This is either a funny joke, or it's funny because it's not true in the slightest. I can't tell which.

    Either way, I'm not going to fault the guy for falling of the wagon. It's just a few cigs, and I'm confident he'll get it under control. It's not like he's bumming coke off campaign staff or something.

    Even if Obama said fuck it and gave every SOTU address with a smoking cigarette in his hand, I wouldn't care much. Let the dude have his one vice.

    What if he had a White Russian in his other hand, and was dressed in a bath robe?

    Joe Chemo on
  • ScooterScooter Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I'm just glad we finally have an actual Obama issue we can debate about!


    So, did FDR do really good in his first term? Cause that Depression lasted a while and dude got elected more than anybody

    Scooter on
  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Joe Chemo wrote: »

    What if he had a White Russian in his other hand, and was dressed in a bath robe?

    Throw in him having Michelle give him Oral half way through and we'd have the best presidential address ever.

    Preacher on
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  • ÆthelredÆthelred Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Joe Chemo wrote: »
    It's not like he's bumming coke off campaign staff or something.

    I don't know -- he hasn't addressed his relationship with coke dealers at all. It should be looked into; I think the american people deserve to know the truth.

    There was an article recently-ish by some conservative saying that the McCain campaign should try to find Obama's past coke-dealer. Yeah.

    Æthelred on
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  • IsornIsorn Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/more-hate-voicemails-and-emails-directe

    “Hi, I was just calling to let you all know that Barack Obama needs to get hung."

    WTF

    Isorn on
  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Preacher wrote: »
    Joe Chemo wrote: »

    What if he had a White Russian in his other hand, and was dressed in a bath robe?

    Throw in him having Michelle give him Oral half way through and we'd have the best presidential address ever.
    If he's going to run the free world, he might as well be completely stress free while telling us how he's going to do it.

    OptimusZed on
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  • SithDrummerSithDrummer Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Joe Chemo wrote: »
    ElJeffe wrote: »
    Houn wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    Scooter wrote: »
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    Scooter wrote: »
    Cantido wrote: »
    Wait watching MSNBC just now and they're talking about everyone's health records and they said Obama is a smoker. Did he pick it up again or did they misspeak there?

    WHAT.

    This is the worst smear against Obama yet!
    I assume you're joking, but my wife actually used it as part of her rationalization for voting Clinton in the Primary.

    Actually I care more about this than Ayers, Rezko and Wright put together.

    Not because it affects his policy decisions, but because I feel like I gotta dock a guy a few points for getting addicted to cigarettes, or anything really.

    Oh come on, we all have our addictions. And it was a generational thing, when he grew up cigarettes weren't known for the horrible cancerous deaths that they are today.

    This is either a funny joke, or it's funny because it's not true in the slightest. I can't tell which.

    Either way, I'm not going to fault the guy for falling of the wagon. It's just a few cigs, and I'm confident he'll get it under control. It's not like he's bumming coke off campaign staff or something.

    Even if Obama said fuck it and gave every SOTU address with a smoking cigarette in his hand, I wouldn't care much. Let the dude have his one vice.

    What if he had a White Russian in his other hand, and was dressed in a bath robe?
    Citizens of the United States, I have a brief message I'd like to deliver to you today:

    That rug really tied the Oval Office together.

    SithDrummer on
  • TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Joe Chemo wrote: »
    ElJeffe wrote: »

    Even if Obama said fuck it and gave every SOTU address with a smoking cigarette in his hand, I wouldn't care much. Let the dude have his one vice.

    What if he had a White Russian in his other hand, and was dressed in a bath robe?

    Man, why'd you have to nuke Oregon? It really tied the west coast together.

    /brandish fist at Sithdrummer.

    Tofystedeth on
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  • Rhesus PositiveRhesus Positive GNU Terry Pratchett Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Hanged, God dammit. Lousy Internet cranks with their poor grasp of language.

    Unless it was doubling as a very subtle Viagra spam message.

    Rhesus Positive on
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  • namelessnameless Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    Screamline wrote: »
    Hand written death threats left for a couple of Obama supporters in Chicago.
    Political intimidation with that personal touch.
    "Failure to obey this order will result in the immediate death of all family members."
    That is the most clinical death threat I have heard in a long time. The perpetrator is obviously a doctor or a law student or something. "Failure to comply will result in nausea, anal leakage, internal bleeding, death of yourself and/or others, bloating, eye liquification, and runny nose."

    nameless on
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • SithDrummerSithDrummer Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Joe Chemo wrote: »
    ElJeffe wrote: »

    Even if Obama said fuck it and gave every SOTU address with a smoking cigarette in his hand, I wouldn't care much. Let the dude have his one vice.

    What if he had a White Russian in his other hand, and was dressed in a bath robe?

    Man, why'd you have to nuke Oregon? It really tied the west coast together.

    /brandish fist at Sithdrummer.
    Nobody fucks with the Jesus.

    SithDrummer on
  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Hanged, God dammit. Lousy Internet cranks with their poor grasp of language.

    Unless it was doubling as a very subtle Viagra spam message.
    We really do suffer from a lack of high-quality racist shitheads these days, don't we. Back in the day, they used to at least give you a brick with your hate-filled screed.

    OptimusZed on
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  • HedgethornHedgethorn Associate Professor of Historical Hobby Horses In the Lions' DenRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Scooter wrote: »
    So, did FDR do really good in his first term? Cause that Depression lasted a while and dude got elected more than anybody

    Much of the New Deal's alphabet soup came during his first term: the CCC, the WPA, the TVA, etc. Unemployment was extremely high throughout the '30s, but it went from around 20% to 15% by the time he was up for reelection in '36.

    He also created the FDIC and Social Security during that time, as well as signed the NLRA, which allowed workers to unionize.

    So yeah, he did pretty well. He got 61% of the vote in '36.

    Hedgethorn on
  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Scooter wrote: »
    I'm just glad we finally have an actual Obama issue we can debate about!


    So, did FDR do really good in his first term? Cause that Depression lasted a while and dude got elected more than anybody

    Well, his first 100 days he got a ton of shit passed. The New Deal was good for the most part. But things weren't that much better in 1936 than in 1932, but he was so damn hopeful and we'll get through thisish and generally Americans don't like to vote out incumbents so they didn't.

    Charisma and general communications mastery is extremely helpful. Also things got a bit better. Some combination of those = re-election.

    enlightenedbum on
    The idea that your vote is a moral statement about you or who you vote for is some backwards ass libertarian nonsense. Your vote is about society. Vote to protect the vulnerable.
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