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Best Buy Warranty (PRP) - Should I get one?

ArcSynArcSyn Registered User regular
So 2.5 years ago I bought a 60GB iPod Video for $400. At the time, I bought a $50 3 Year Best Buy Service Plan. Normally, with a service plan they send out your equipment to be repaired.

Last week I decided I had been annoyed enough with the small things that were going wrong with my iPod to take it back to the store. I had read/heard all the horror stories of Best Buy warranties and was ready to put up a fight. I figured worst case scenario they would send away my iPod to be refurbed. If I did it three times they would then replace it. Best case scenario they would give me a gift card for $400 and let me purchase what I want. They ended up between the two and gave me a gift card for $250 (iPod 120GB Classic price).

Instead of buying an iPod (because Apple gimped the video-out port and I just didn't want another Apple product) I bought a Zune 120GB. At the register they offered me a 2-year PRP (replacement plan) for $40. I told them no, but I can always sign up for it during the time I'm able to return the product.

Now that I've been thinking about it, and it being a replacement plan, I'm curious if I should go ahead and get it?

I was able to successfully use my last one to double my storage space and screen real estate, among other features. If I got the 2 year PRP, I could once again upgrade in two years to two models after this one (provided they keep the same release schedule). Essentially I paid $50 to be able to upgrade, and I would be paying another $40 to upgrade again (provided I don't break it accidentally - as that is not covered).

Worth it? I will say that saving $200 (essentially) to get an upgrade from my old model is pretty nice, and it being a replacement plan means that I won't have to risk the horror stories as they don't try to fix it, they just replace it.

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  • archonwarparchonwarp Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Obviously, it's up to you. I like Best Buy's service/replacement plans, but I work there. I think that they're worth it on any product that has a huge chance of screwing up for little to no reason. I used to work in the warehouse, and the product that I shipped out most for returns was ipods. Some of them freeze up, some of the new nanos have battery problems, and some of them just stop working for no reason at all. As for zunes, I have a zune that stopped working for no reason, so I think I would buy one myself.

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  • ArcSynArcSyn Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    archonwarp wrote: »
    Obviously, it's up to you. I like Best Buy's service/replacement plans, but I work there. I think that they're worth it on any product that has a huge chance of screwing up for little to no reason. I used to work in the warehouse, and the product that I shipped out most for returns was ipods. Some of them freeze up, some of the new nanos have battery problems, and some of them just stop working for no reason at all. As for zunes, I have a zune that stopped working for no reason, so I think I would buy one myself.

    That's exactly what I'm curious about though, is are there any "fine print" issues that could come back and bite me on this? I had heard the horror stories of the iPod PSPs and was scared to see what my local store would do for mine. This being a PRP I haven't heard any horror stories so I was wondering if these are more worth it since it seems more straight forward - "Here's a gift card with $250 on it" - resolution.

    Though the price difference ($50 to insure $400 for 3 years vs. $40 to insure $250 for 2 years) seems to have reduced the value a bit.

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  • 1ddqd1ddqd Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    PRPs are just that; replacement plans. If something, anything, screws up, it's replaced. Now the only thing that may irk you is that they swap it for something comparable - if you have the Zune two years, then right before the PRP expires, you use it, well, you'll get whatever is comparable at the time. Sometimes it's awesome (like a Zune 160 b/c they don't have the 120 anymore) and sometimes it will suck (a Zune 120 b/c they still have them in stock) but you will always get *at least* the exact replacement.

    Would you rather have it break in 2 years and have to buy another one?

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  • archonwarparchonwarp Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    ArcSyn wrote: »
    archonwarp wrote: »
    Obviously, it's up to you. I like Best Buy's service/replacement plans, but I work there. I think that they're worth it on any product that has a huge chance of screwing up for little to no reason. I used to work in the warehouse, and the product that I shipped out most for returns was ipods. Some of them freeze up, some of the new nanos have battery problems, and some of them just stop working for no reason at all. As for zunes, I have a zune that stopped working for no reason, so I think I would buy one myself.

    That's exactly what I'm curious about though, is are there any "fine print" issues that could come back and bite me on this? I had heard the horror stories of the iPod PSPs and was scared to see what my local store would do for mine. This being a PRP I haven't heard any horror stories so I was wondering if these are more worth it since it seems more straight forward - "Here's a gift card with $250 on it" - resolution.

    Though the price difference ($50 to insure $400 for 3 years vs. $40 to insure $250 for 2 years) seems to have reduced the value a bit.


    Can you fill me in on the horror stories as far as warranty problems? From my experience, most of the time that they get rejected is because there's some obvious physical damage. People wash their ipods by leaving them in their jeans, for example, then bitch out Best Buy because they did something that was *NOT* covered by the service plan and it wouldn't be replaced. I'm sure there are issues here and there, and I know every store is different, but at my store, a problem with the hardware is either a repair or a replacement.

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  • ArcSynArcSyn Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    archonwarp wrote: »
    ArcSyn wrote: »
    archonwarp wrote: »
    Obviously, it's up to you. I like Best Buy's service/replacement plans, but I work there. I think that they're worth it on any product that has a huge chance of screwing up for little to no reason. I used to work in the warehouse, and the product that I shipped out most for returns was ipods. Some of them freeze up, some of the new nanos have battery problems, and some of them just stop working for no reason at all. As for zunes, I have a zune that stopped working for no reason, so I think I would buy one myself.

    That's exactly what I'm curious about though, is are there any "fine print" issues that could come back and bite me on this? I had heard the horror stories of the iPod PSPs and was scared to see what my local store would do for mine. This being a PRP I haven't heard any horror stories so I was wondering if these are more worth it since it seems more straight forward - "Here's a gift card with $250 on it" - resolution.

    Though the price difference ($50 to insure $400 for 3 years vs. $40 to insure $250 for 2 years) seems to have reduced the value a bit.


    Can you fill me in on the horror stories as far as warranty problems? From my experience, most of the time that they get rejected is because there's some obvious physical damage. People wash their ipods by leaving them in their jeans, for example, then bitch out Best Buy because they did something that was *NOT* covered by the service plan and it wouldn't be replaced. I'm sure there are issues here and there, and I know every store is different, but at my store, a problem with the hardware is either a repair or a replacement.

    Most of the horror stories were from when the iPod was sent for repair and they ended up waiting months for parts to arrive and fixes to be completed, and then the iPod they get back is a different serial number anyway and now has another problem with it or develops a problem shortly after receiving it causing another period of time they are without while it's fixed.

    Generally I haven't heard any issues with people with legitimate problems being turned away. I just didn't want to go without my mp3 player for months.

    And no, I'd rather not have to buy a new one if it breaks, I just wasn't sure how the PRP worked. You mentioned that they likely would give me a comparable model, which is not quite what I may want. The "features" Best Buy lists is that you get a credit of the purchase price, but if that's incorrect then I don't want to be expecting that. If in two years I take it in and the 120GB is $50 while a 500GB is $250, I want the 500GB because technically I should get the $250 credit and I can choose to purchase the 500GB with that. Or purchase the 120GB for $50 and use $200 on anything else I want.

    Basically, it really does look like a good idea. I just know sometimes things look too good to be true.

    Also, will a skin from "Best Skins Ever" qualify as an aftermarket modification that would void the warranty?

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  • Down, Set, GoDown, Set, Go Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    ArcSyn wrote: »
    archonwarp wrote: »
    ArcSyn wrote: »
    archonwarp wrote: »
    Obviously, it's up to you. I like Best Buy's service/replacement plans, but I work there. I think that they're worth it on any product that has a huge chance of screwing up for little to no reason. I used to work in the warehouse, and the product that I shipped out most for returns was ipods. Some of them freeze up, some of the new nanos have battery problems, and some of them just stop working for no reason at all. As for zunes, I have a zune that stopped working for no reason, so I think I would buy one myself.

    That's exactly what I'm curious about though, is are there any "fine print" issues that could come back and bite me on this? I had heard the horror stories of the iPod PSPs and was scared to see what my local store would do for mine. This being a PRP I haven't heard any horror stories so I was wondering if these are more worth it since it seems more straight forward - "Here's a gift card with $250 on it" - resolution.

    Though the price difference ($50 to insure $400 for 3 years vs. $40 to insure $250 for 2 years) seems to have reduced the value a bit.


    Can you fill me in on the horror stories as far as warranty problems? From my experience, most of the time that they get rejected is because there's some obvious physical damage. People wash their ipods by leaving them in their jeans, for example, then bitch out Best Buy because they did something that was *NOT* covered by the service plan and it wouldn't be replaced. I'm sure there are issues here and there, and I know every store is different, but at my store, a problem with the hardware is either a repair or a replacement.

    Most of the horror stories were from when the iPod was sent for repair and they ended up waiting months for parts to arrive and fixes to be completed, and then the iPod they get back is a different serial number anyway and now has another problem with it or develops a problem shortly after receiving it causing another period of time they are without while it's fixed.

    Generally I haven't heard any issues with people with legitimate problems being turned away. I just didn't want to go without my mp3 player for months.

    And no, I'd rather not have to buy a new one if it breaks, I just wasn't sure how the PRP worked. You mentioned that they likely would give me a comparable model, which is not quite what I may want. The "features" Best Buy lists is that you get a credit of the purchase price, but if that's incorrect then I don't want to be expecting that. If in two years I take it in and the 120GB is $50 while a 500GB is $250, I want the 500GB because technically I should get the $250 credit and I can choose to purchase the 500GB with that. Or purchase the 120GB for $50 and use $200 on anything else I want.

    Basically, it really does look like a good idea. I just know sometimes things look too good to be true.

    Also, will a skin from "Best Skins Ever" qualify as an aftermarket modification that would void the warranty?

    The new Best Buy policy for Replacement Plans is that you get a store credit for a comparable item as a requirement for fullfilling a Replacement Plan through the POS and it's up to whoever's working to try to get you a new iPod/Zune so you have a replacement for it unless you don't want it. Some employees might not even mention that through the exchange process you'll be getting a store credit and it's their call on how transparent they want to make it to you, so you might not even know unless you ask.

    If you paid $250 for a Zune now and two years from now comparable Zunes are $90 bucks, you don't get the difference back, only the $90 Zune. However if there are multiple price points like, say, a $150 Zune that gives you a beej while you listen to it in addition to the $90 one, you can also technically ask for that as well as long as it doesn't go above the price of the original Zune you bought but you would only know you could do that if you were told beforehand or were inquisitive.

    You can always refuse a replacement though. In those cases you can just ask nicely for the store credit but you will only get store credit back for the comparable Zune, which in this story would be $90.

    The iPod and Zunes no longer have sellable PSPs at Best Buy and only PRPs since they weren't being advertised correctly by employees and most customers are idiots and assumed they were straight replacement plans when specifically told they were for service.

    As for these so called "horror" stories about iPod Service Plan mess ups, I find them incredibly hard to believe. iPod parts have been so incredibly common for the past few years that it is almost impossible to not have the part immediately on hand where they send the iPods to. They are sent to Geek Squad City in Kentucky which is the size of four football fields, with a warehouse full of parts that is equal to one field. I've never seen an iPod take longer than two weeks to get back to my store. Any time I hear stories like these I can only comprehend that it must have been the customer's fault for whatever happened. There are so many things I can say about stupid customers that spread unwarranted filth about Best Buy that I can dispute first hand as being their fault.

    If you put a BSE skin on it, nobody will care at all but it's not guaranteed to come back with it on the unit. If you have any more questions, I should be able to help since I have to do this kind of stuff daily.

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  • Neb54Neb54 Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I would do it if I were you. I bought a 20gb iPod video a few years ago and now have a 60gb classic because of the Best Buy replacement plan :D

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  • ArcSynArcSyn Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Yeah, I'm probably going to go for it. Best to have a guarantee, especially in the fast-moving tech world where a year from now a comparable model may be double the storage.

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  • DjiemDjiem Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    So wait, if you buy a 200$ Zune and get a PRP, if it breaks in two years and it's worth 50$ now, you only get 50$? The way it works at Staples is that if it's worth less than 200$ when you buy it (199.99 and below), we'll replace the full value at purchase, not just 50$.

    But yeah, MP3 players break all the time, trust me, if the replacement plan is fair-priced, you should get it.

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  • Ramen NoodleRamen Noodle whoa, god has a picture of me! Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Do it. It is incredibly handy.

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  • DeusfauxDeusfaux Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    extended warranties and such are basically never worth it.

    They would not offer it if it wasn't profitable to them. They're banking on getting more money from you buying their extra shit than ever paying out that much to you in terms of servicing or replacement.

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  • Shorn Scrotum ManShorn Scrotum Man Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    PRP's are incredibly useful on shit products that break frequently, like iPods. I know my iPod broke one day because I looked at it funny (it would crash any machine it was plugged into as well!) but thankfully I went in and traded into a same size Sansa that still works 2.5 years later (and I'd only had the iPod for about 6 months!).

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Service plan horror stories only happen on the very few products where it is cheaper to actually attempt to repair the unit.

    These are: Desktops, Laptops, HDTVs, Cameras.

    That's it.

    For anything else you are going to get a replacement, and it can be a good deal. I wouldn't bother with something built like a tank like a DS or a Wii or a PS3. But any MP3 player? 360? (back in the day) PSP? Absolutely.

    I made some serious store credit off of the PSP when my power button stopped working.

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  • DjiemDjiem Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Laptops cost much more to repair outside of warranty than the extended warranty. (EDIT: Oh wait, I get what you're saying. Yes, I guess you're right)
    Also, if you're buying a 360, you're better off with MS's extended warranty than the store's.

    Desfaux: If we made 100% profit on them, people wouldn't buy them over and over. And I wouldn't be here replacing people's shit constantly if these warranties were never worth it. They are worth it but it depends highly on the price of the warranty and what you're trying to cover. Not everything needs an additional warranty.

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  • CodeCode Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I have had amazing luck with my ipod PRP, Essentially, I got an original ipod mini, and the service plan, and over the intervening years, I have replaced it 3 times, each for only the cost of the new prp($40 or so) and sometimes, not even that much, I have upgraded, essentially for free, from an ipod mini, to an original ipod nano, all the way up to a brand new 60gig ipod classic

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  • DeusfauxDeusfaux Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I didnt say anything about 100% profit. Way to put words in my mouth.

    Consumer reports says time and time again that they are not worth it.

    THEY ARE NOT WORTH IT.

    For every story of how they helped someone out in a big way, there are dozens more stories of how they never did anything for the purchaser.

    Odds are...

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  • DjiemDjiem Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    That's not actually true.

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  • ZackSchillingZackSchilling Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Newsflash: Insurance of any kind works by charging an amount per person such than total money in is greater than money paid out in claims. The actual amount of profit is all about the estimates of failure rates and how much they think they can get away marking up above that.

    Newsflash 2: Some people don't care that it's technically a scam (all insurance is), they just want to pay a little extra to ensure their product makes it through expected lifespan. This is ok.

    The only way insurance can be not worth it at all is if the value of the equipment is less than the fee or if making a claim is impossible.

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  • Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Deusfaux wrote: »
    I didnt say anything about 100% profit. Way to put words in my mouth.

    Consumer reports says time and time again that they are not worth it.

    THEY ARE NOT WORTH IT.

    For every story of how they helped someone out in a big way, there are dozens more stories of how they never did anything for the purchaser.

    Odds are...

    Why do people buy health insurance?

    Or property insurance.

    You may think it's a scam but other people want peace of mind.

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  • urahonkyurahonky Cynical Old Man Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    PRPs are very much worth the money. Every time. Their SERVICE plans are debatable. It just depends on what you are buying. An iPod? Fuck yes PRPs are worth it. If the HDD dies or whatever... It'd be nice to go in and get the newest model for free.

    A printer? Nah, the PSP isn't worth it on those.

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  • archonwarparchonwarp Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I basically buy a PSP on everything that seems like it could have mechanical problems down the line that I couldn't fix myself. It's also kind of funny some of the things they cover, such as my air purifier being protected against dust damage :lol:. ANYTHING that has sensitive hardware or expensive battery replacement is worth it IMHO, simply because I don't like buying new shit every year if I don't have to.

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  • AtreyuAtreyu Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    now i know they over like 60 days to get insurance on the product and even if you drop there fix it or replace it

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  • japanjapan Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    My credit card gives me a three year extended warranty on anything I purchase with it. I always think it's better to find an offer like that rather than buy the instore replacement plans.
    Atreyu wrote: »
    now i know they over like 60 days to get insurance on the product and even if you drop there fix it or replace it

    I'm not sure what this means. Are you saying they'll replace it even if you drop it, or otherwise accidentally damage it? If so, you're probably better off adding accidental damage cover to your home contents insurance. It cost me an extra £60 or so per year to cover everything in my home, and anything I carry with me when I leave the house. Additionally, a lot of home contents cover includes "accidental damage to home entertainment equipment" for free anyway.

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  • RawkasaurusRawkasaurus Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    japan wrote: »
    My credit card gives me a three year extended warranty on anything I purchase with it. I always think it's better to find an offer like that rather than buy the instore replacement plans.

    So they'll replace your HDD in your computer if it fails due to normal usage? Or replace the bulb on your DLP TV when it goes out?

    Or do you mean you have insurance so that if your car gets flooded and your laptop is damaged you get a new one?

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  • japanjapan Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    japan wrote: »
    My credit card gives me a three year extended warranty on anything I purchase with it. I always think it's better to find an offer like that rather than buy the instore replacement plans.

    So they'll replace your HDD in your computer if it fails due to normal usage? Or replace the bulb on your DLP TV when it goes out?

    Or do you mean you have insurance so that if your car gets flooded and your laptop is damaged you get a new one?

    The wording is that they extend the manufacturer's warranty for two years under the same terms for anything purchased in full with my credit card or debit card (I didn't know it extended to my debit card, which is nice). So anything that would have been covered under the manufacturer's warranty were it to happen in the first year is also covered for a further two years by my bank.

    Basically HD failing in a PC, yes, bulb going in a DLP TV, no, because (as I understand it) that would be considered a consumable.

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  • The_SpaniardThe_Spaniard It's never lupines Irvine, CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    YES YES YES these things are friggen awesome if you get them to cover the right items. I've saved thousands, THOUSANDS of dollars on handhelds alone by buying an renewing extended warranties. Because of my warranties I've gone from a GBA, to a GBA SP, to a DS, to a DS light on a single warranty that all I had to do was renew. And with my PSP I went from the 1000, to the 2000, to the 3000 the same way I did with the DS. Can you imagine how much that has saved me if all I did was paid the initial price of the systems and then just payed the extra 20 (now 30) to renew the warranty when one broke and I upgraded? Hell I even got some of my original money back when some of them dropped in price.

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