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I'm in ur earth, loggin ur keys

SephSeph Registered User regular
edited October 2008 in Social Entropy++
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7681534.stm
Keyboard sniffers to steal data
Screengrab of EPFL video, EPFL
The attacks were shown to work at a distance of 20 metres

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Computer criminals could soon be eavesdropping on what you type by analysing the electromagnetic signals produced by every key press.

By analysing the signals produced by keystrokes, Swiss researchers have reproduced what a target typed.

The security researchers have developed four attacks that work on a wide variety of computer keyboards.

The results led the researchers to declare keyboards were "not safe to transmit sensitive information".

Better attacks

The attacks were dreamed up by doctoral students Martin Vuagnoux and Sylvain Pasini from the Security and Cryptography Laboratory at the Swiss Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne (EPFL).

The EPFL students tested 11 different keyboard models that connected to a computer via either a USB or a PS/2 socket. The attacks they developed also worked with keyboards embedded in laptops.

Every keyboard tested was vulnerable to at least one of the four attacks the researchers used. One attack was shown to work over a distance of 20 metres.

In their work the researchers used a radio antenna to "fully or partially recover keystrokes" by spotting the electromagnetic radiation emitted when keys were pressed.

In a web posting they added: "no doubt that our attacks can be significantly improved, since we used relatively unexpensive equipments [sic]."

In videos showing their early work the researchers are seen connecting keyboards to a laptop running on battery power. They avoided using a desktop computer or an LCD display to minimise the chance of picking up signals from other sources.

Details of the attacks are scant but the work is expected to be reported in a peer-reviewed journal soon.

The research builds on earlier work done by University of Cambridge computer scientist Markus Kuhn who looked at ways to use electromagnetic emanations to eavesdrop and steal useful information.

what the shit is this shit, i mean i know this shit isn't new in the way that "PEOPLE WILL STEAL YOUR STUFF" but I mean come on. Electromagnetic Bursts from keyboards. Great job science! Hell let's tell everyone about it too, i mean let's give them the specs to do it. Let us have a big giant article on bbc about the theory of logging keys and then, then we can go from there!

/facepalm (LOGGIN UR FACEPALM)

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  • ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    The sooner it becomes mainstream, the sooner the industry will develop a defense. I'd rather it became common knowledge right away than remain a piece of obscuria known only to the people who'd use it unethically.

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  • #pipe#pipe Cocky Stride, Musky odours Pope of Chili TownRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Great

    maybe someone will steal my debt

    #pipe on
  • Synthetic OrangeSynthetic Orange Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Hey guys did you read cryptonomicon there's this thing called Van Eck Phreaking and what these hackers do is copy another guys computer remotely using magnets and he was writing porn and it was like they were reading it in the room with him that was creepy it'd be creepy if it was real but thankfully it's all just a story haha.

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  • TonkkaTonkka Some one in the club tonight Has stolen my ideas.Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    #pipe wrote: »
    Great

    maybe someone will steal my debt

    Tee hee, maybe mine too!

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  • CrackedLensCrackedLens Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    synth

    that baby looks fuckin evil as shit

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  • L*2*G*XL*2*G*X Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    So why am I thinking governments will adopt this before criminals do?
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  • AirAir Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    can you imagine walking into a university library or pc lab with one of these machines on your person and everyone tapping away writing up essays and shit and you stand there in the middle arms outstretched head tilted back as you reach ultimate power and let out a mighty roar

    Air on
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  • Canada_jezusCanada_jezus Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    The attacks were shown to work at a distance of 20 metres

    they've basically developed binoculars. Okay so thats over stating the case but its still not impressive.

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  • MysstMysst King Monkey of Hedonism IslandRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Air wrote: »
    can you imagine walking into a university library or pc lab with one of these machines on your person and everyone tapping away writing up essays and shit and you stand there in the middle arms outstretched head tilted back as you reach ultimate power and let out a mighty roar
    people may either stop typing or ignore you, depending on the school

    Mysst on
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  • bsjezzbsjezz Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    yes, electromagnetic key-logging is exactly what troubles me on a daily basis

    luckily i've found that dislodging every key and wrapping them in tinfoil before carefully replacing them really helps. you should try it

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  • Volucrisus AedriusVolucrisus Aedrius Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Soon, valuable data will be transmitted via carrier pigeon again, and all that stock I invested in the pigeon business will make me a rich rich bastard.

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  • AirAir Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Mysst wrote: »
    Air wrote: »
    can you imagine walking into a university library or pc lab with one of these machines on your person and everyone tapping away writing up essays and shit and you stand there in the middle arms outstretched head tilted back as you reach ultimate power and let out a mighty roar
    people may either stop typing or ignore you, depending on the school

    i think everyone would start typing extra hard

    Air on
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  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Science is so awesome.

    Every day it seems there is a new advancement that not 10 years ago would have been literally the heights of fantasy and science fiction.

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  • SephSeph Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Those sweet sweet pigeon breadcrumbs comin' back to papa Volu

    Seph on
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  • MysstMysst King Monkey of Hedonism IslandRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Air wrote: »
    Mysst wrote: »
    Air wrote: »
    can you imagine walking into a university library or pc lab with one of these machines on your person and everyone tapping away writing up essays and shit and you stand there in the middle arms outstretched head tilted back as you reach ultimate power and let out a mighty roar
    people may either stop typing or ignore you, depending on the school

    i think everyone would start typing extra hard
    you'll go to read the keystrokes and they'll all say ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff

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  • bsjezzbsjezz Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    Science is so awesome.

    Every day it seems there is a new advancement that not 10 years ago would have been literally the heights of fantasy and science fiction.

    10 years ago, hey

    you mean like
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  • stabbystabby Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Is this like Van Eck Phreaking?

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  • GRMikeGRMike The Last Best Hope for Humanity The God Pod Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I am watching the episode of Saved by the Bell where they recap what happened over the summer while they all worked at the Malibu Sands.

    It might be the best recap episode ever.

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  • jes is ajes is a __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2008
    Seph wrote: »
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7681534.stm
    Keyboard sniffers to steal data
    Screengrab of EPFL video, EPFL
    The attacks were shown to work at a distance of 20 metres

    _45127620_e5f505f1-07e5-4d94-846e-ccb3c69de8e4.jpg

    Computer criminals could soon be eavesdropping on what you type by analysing the electromagnetic signals produced by every key press.

    By analysing the signals produced by keystrokes, Swiss researchers have reproduced what a target typed.

    The security researchers have developed four attacks that work on a wide variety of computer keyboards.

    The results led the researchers to declare keyboards were "not safe to transmit sensitive information".

    Better attacks

    The attacks were dreamed up by doctoral students Martin Vuagnoux and Sylvain Pasini from the Security and Cryptography Laboratory at the Swiss Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne (EPFL).

    The EPFL students tested 11 different keyboard models that connected to a computer via either a USB or a PS/2 socket. The attacks they developed also worked with keyboards embedded in laptops.

    Every keyboard tested was vulnerable to at least one of the four attacks the researchers used. One attack was shown to work over a distance of 20 metres.

    In their work the researchers used a radio antenna to "fully or partially recover keystrokes" by spotting the electromagnetic radiation emitted when keys were pressed.

    In a web posting they added: "no doubt that our attacks can be significantly improved, since we used relatively unexpensive equipments [sic]."

    In videos showing their early work the researchers are seen connecting keyboards to a laptop running on battery power. They avoided using a desktop computer or an LCD display to minimise the chance of picking up signals from other sources.

    Details of the attacks are scant but the work is expected to be reported in a peer-reviewed journal soon.

    The research builds on earlier work done by University of Cambridge computer scientist Markus Kuhn who looked at ways to use electromagnetic emanations to eavesdrop and steal useful information.

    what the shit is this shit, i mean i know this shit isn't new in the way that "PEOPLE WILL STEAL YOUR STUFF" but I mean come on. Electromagnetic Bursts from keyboards. Great job science! Hell let's tell everyone about it too, i mean let's give them the specs to do it. Let us have a big giant article on bbc about the theory of logging keys and then, then we can go from there!

    /facepalm (LOGGIN UR FACEPALM)

    It reminds me of a book that one of my high school buddies had, it was a book about how to stop hackers.
    And it gave you a step by step process of many things hackers do and how they do it.
    So in essence it was just a book that taught you how to be a hacker.

    jes is a on
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  • LednehLedneh shinesquawk Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Wasn't this in Necronomicon

    (edit) wait not Necronomicon, the fuck book am I thinking of

    damnit, I should read threads better, cryptonomicon :(

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  • Randall_FlaggRandall_Flagg Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Hey guys did you read cryptonomicon there's this thing called Van Eck Phreaking and what these hackers do is copy another guys computer remotely using magnets and he was writing porn and it was like they were reading it in the room with him that was creepy it'd be creepy if it was real but thankfully it's all just a story haha.

    whoah

    these were totally the exact thoughts that were going through my head when I read the OP

    this is freaky (or should I say...phreaky???)

    but seriously, what the heck was the point of that scene? I didn't really get it at all, other than to show that van eck phreaking works

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  • laughingfuzzballlaughingfuzzball Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Cryptonomicon is a pretty great book.

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  • JarofmoldymayoJarofmoldymayo __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2008
    Ledneh wrote: »
    Wasn't this in Necronomicon

    (edit) wait not Necronomicon, the fuck book am I thinking of

    damnit, I should read threads better, cryptonomicon :(

    Ia! Ia!

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  • Randall_FlaggRandall_Flagg Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    Science is so awesome.

    Every day it seems there is a new advancement that not 10 years ago would have been literally the heights of fantasy and science fiction.

    except that van eck phreaking was published and proved to work in 1985

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