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My first digital painting attempt

Penguin-FactoryPenguin-Factory Registered User regular
edited October 2006 in Artist's Corner
apfelsmallbm2.jpg

This was done with a Wacom tablet using photoshop. It's technically my second attempt, done with a reference, the first was a tutorial I got online that didn't come out so well (although it showed me the basic skills). I was tearing my hair out over it but it got much easier once I figured out how to layer colours with low opaqueness and such.

It was really fun to paint, and I like the way it came out, especially since I'm terrible at using real paints. I think I'm going to focus on this as much as drawing (although obviously, colouring skills won't be worth much if I can't draw anything to colour).

Some specific questions: The basic body of the apple was easy, but when I tried to do fine details (the reference apple had a sort of brown area near the hollow bit at the top, for example) they came out looking flat and monochrome. Any tips to help me with this?

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  • saltinesssaltiness Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    I don't know anything about digital painting so I can't give the best advice but I do know a lot about oil painting. I'd imagine you set out thinking to yourself, "I'm going to paint a green apple." And that's what you did. Instead, start out by thinking, "I'm going to paint a colorful thing." I guarantee there are at least 10 other hues in the actual apple which should also be in your painting. Not just a 'brown area' but a lot of reds, yellows, maybe even some blues.

    They way I learned to paint with oils is to first limit my palette. Pick out 3 colors (yellow ochre, terra rosa and burnt sienna are nice for this) along with black and white and see what you can do with them while only mixing them together (theoretically this should work digitally). This will help you see the other colors in the green apple because you can't use the actual green color.

    This may not work at all in digital, in that case disregard what I said.

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  • RyeRye Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    green_apple_01.jpg

    Enjoy the reference. However, DON'T use the color dropper to pick colors. That will only teach you to be lazy and really limits what you can color.

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  • NightDragonNightDragon 6th Grade Username Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    Furthermore, try using both soft brushes and "hard" edged brushes....and try using 100% opacity, and then lower opacities. It will help you learn.

    And oh jesus do not use the gradient tool whatever you do trust me on this please do not use it.

    Thank you. Good luck.

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  • Penguin-FactoryPenguin-Factory Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    Enjoy the reference.

    I already have a reference..... although I may eat it later :D
    Not just a 'brown area' but a lot of reds, yellows, maybe even some blues.

    You're probably right about that.
    And oh jesus do not use the gradient tool whatever you do trust me on this please do not use it.

    I don't even know what the gradient tool is :|
    and try using 100% opacity, and then lower opacities.

    For this one I used 60% opacity and than 20%. Would starting out at 100% not be sort of inflexible and make it harder to get different shades of colours?

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  • NightDragonNightDragon 6th Grade Username Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    And oh jesus do not use the gradient tool whatever you do trust me on this please do not use it.

    I don't even know what the gradient tool is :|

    Good man!
    and try using 100% opacity, and then lower opacities.

    For this one I used 60% opacity and than 20%. Would starting out at 100% not be sort of inflexible and make it harder to get different shades of colours?

    If you start out at 100%, you may be able to at least get the basic form down. Right now, your apple is VERY misshapen and the edges seem completely undefined. Furthermore, it looks like you went over the same space a billion times with almost the exact same color as before, because your opacity was so low.

    You can do "blocks" of color, where you'd just use 100% opacity brushes (of differing sizes**** very important)...and that may actually be a good practice thing to do for you.

    Right now, your apple is way too..."green"....like, out-of-the-tube green. It needs more yellows, browns, oranges, etc (even if the apple is completely green. Trust me on this one).

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  • Tweaked_Bat_Tweaked_Bat_ Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    After the torrent of horrible "my first time lol" attempts, I am nicely surprised to see something that doesn't blow major arse :)

    But yeah, the green atm looks pretty unrealistic, like ND said, too "out of the tube". But keep working on it, I look forward to seeing some more ;)

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  • Penguin-FactoryPenguin-Factory Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    After the torrent of horrible "my first time lol" attempts, I am nicely surprised to see something that doesn't blow major arse

    Thanks! :D
    It needs more yellows, browns, oranges, etc (even if the apple is completely green. Trust me on this one).

    Um..... I'll take your word for it. Adding yellow or brown seems kind of odd though, wouldn't it just make the apple look diseased? (I'm posting this from school so I can't try it for myself at the moment)

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  • FantasyrogueFantasyrogue Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    What they mean is adding a yellow or brown tint to the green, not a big yellow or brown splotch on the apple (unless said apple is yellow, or rotting, of course). The thing is you used a really hard green, and only one colour of green, to paint your apple. But a real apple (as in the picture posted by Rye) is not purely green and not just one colour of green, it's different shades of colour.

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  • The CelestialThe Celestial Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    At times like this I wish I wasn't colorblind....

    It looks pretty good though.

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  • Penguin-FactoryPenguin-Factory Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    That makes more sense. I can see the yellow tint on some areas of the reference photo now.

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  • LlyLly Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    After the torrent of horrible "my first time lol" attempts, I am nicely surprised to see something that doesn't blow major arse

    Thanks! :D
    It needs more yellows, browns, oranges, etc (even if the apple is completely green. Trust me on this one).

    Um..... I'll take your word for it. Adding yellow or brown seems kind of odd though, wouldn't it just make the apple look diseased? (I'm posting this from school so I can't try it for myself at the moment)

    No. Especially yellows in a green apple, and light browns. They can be very subtle but still make all the difference.

    And a quick tip: Never colour on a white background, it knocks your colour judgement askew a bit. Choose a nice midtone suitable for your subject and you'll be able to discern what colour choices look good more easily.

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  • RavenshadowRavenshadow Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    Lly wrote:
    And a quick tip: Never colour on a white background, it knocks your colour judgement askew a bit. Choose a nice midtone suitable for your subject and you'll be able to discern what colour choices look good more easily.

    This is really important. The background color you choose to color on, even if you end up using a background that you paint in later will affect the mood of the ENTIRE piece.

    I used to just pick a midtone at random and I bet a lot of other nubs like me did to, because I thought the important thing was just to not color on white. Then I started to see that things I'ld paint, even when they had similar subject matter, would have completely different feels to them.

    It ended up being because the background color affected my color choices.

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  • NightDragonNightDragon 6th Grade Username Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    That makes more sense. I can see the yellow tint on some areas of the reference photo now.

    now that I look at it, there are tints of blue, too. Don't be afraid to draw (and paint) what you see!

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  • Penguin-FactoryPenguin-Factory Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    Hey, can I just ask, and this has nothing to do with art, but what the hell is up with that bouncing unibrow thing a load of people have in their avatars? I've been meaning to ask since I registered here :|

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  • NightDragonNightDragon 6th Grade Username Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    Hey, can I just ask, and this has nothing to do with art, but what the hell is up with that bouncing unibrow thing a load of people have in their avatars? I've been meaning to ask since I registered here :|

    It's from when a mod de-modded himself, and changed a whole crapload of peoples' avatars to a smiley-face with the eyebrows. Quite a few of us carried on the tradition through adding winky-brows to our original av's.

    I've honestly been meaning to change it for a long time now but I've been too damn lazy.

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  • Penguin-FactoryPenguin-Factory Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    Yay, more painting!

    purtycloudscopy.jpg

    This one didn't come out so well :(

    It's based on a cloud painting tutotial I found on deviantart. Any suggestions?

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  • BelieveBelieve Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    Which tutorial did you use?

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  • Penguin-FactoryPenguin-Factory Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    This one: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/36510628/?qo=3&q=by%3Aaquasixio&qh=sort%3Atime+-in%3Ascraps

    I'm trying to improve it, I'll post the reowrked version soon.

    Here it is:

    purtycloudscopy-1.jpg

    I think I improved the light, but the main body of the cloud is still to flat and unfinished looking.

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  • LlyLly Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    Try and make the background an appropriate colour or it will never look realistic. Also try making the cload a more interesting and lets face it a more realistic cloud shape. At the moment it looks like a blob of smog ... i keep expecting it to open it's eyes!

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  • Ape2001Ape2001 Otaku GermanyRegistered User regular
    edited October 2006
    I'd say it's just unfinished smoke from some burning gas. That's why it's good ^^ It leaves an impression.

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  • LlyLly Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    RAWR

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  • Penguin-FactoryPenguin-Factory Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    ^ That's awesome 8)

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