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Cities of the U.S. - Montana has scary bums (NSF56k)
Spurred from the election thread, here is the place to discuss why a certain city is the best one and all the others aren't. Got some personal interest in this topic as well (since I think large cities are generally the best thing humanity has ever created). Post away!
Oh, and New York City is still awesome as well? Seriously, if NY isn't awesome you are going to break the heart of the small child inside me.
It's pretty nice, but no Chicago.
Chicago is cold and wet.
Seattle is surrounded by nature.
Seattle wins.
Cook County forest preserve has over 38,000 acres of natural areas and has the most parkland for an urban area with over 550 parks. And the notion that Seattle doesn't get rain seem a bit ironic.
Our rain is better. It cures cancer and brings kittens back to life.
And there's a whole lot of nothing outside of Chicago, I've seen it, miles and miles of flat corn fields.
I love Austin because it's large enough to serve 99% of my needs, but is not a concrete jungle. Its citizens are generally progressive thinkers, but also culturally enlightened which seems to go hand in hand with areas that are very gay friendly. It's beautiful, with a wonderful greenbelt and river that cuts through the middle of the city and has rolling hill country with relatively few houses throughout the West portion of the city. It's got a vibrant music scene(though I can't personally attest to the actual quality of the thousands of bands).
It's then surrounded by Central Texas as a whole which has similar natural beauty and a bounty of open space.
San Francisco is the awesomest of the huge cities. I love it and want to have its children.
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Lots of good food, yes little of it is going to be good for you, but it tastes great.
Also if you like beer, there isn't a better city for it.
The lakefront is very pleasant as well, I always enjoyed heading down there to walk around and do a lot of nothing.
In the summer there is also Summerfest, which is basically a 2 week music orgy. Anything you want to hear will be there at some point, and you can hear stuff you didn't even realize existed.
Also, people in Milwaukee aren't quite as up their own ass as the people just south in Chicago. (Had to take a shot at Chicago)
The only thing you beat Chicago at is length of monorail track. Which is the gayest form of light rail.
Chicago is the birthplace of the modern skyscraper, is a true cardinal grid -unlike New York-, has the best food, and an inland sea that isn't salty. As well as the tallest buildings, largest convention center, and the most dramatic public works of its time. We reversed a motherfucking river.
Public transportation in San Francisco is wacky. You have the subway, BART, and you have the metro rail, MUNI, and you have the above-ground commuter rail, Caltrain.
They each share a few stations so it's easy to transfer back and forth. But it's silly that things are so fragmented.
Add to that how each county runs it's own bus system. So to get from arbitrary point A in San Jose to arbitrary point B in San Francisco, you would have to to VTA -> Caltrain -> Muni or VTA -> Caltrain -> BART -> Muni.
Luckily we have a whole website dedicated to helping people figure out the mess, transit.511.org, and the system works as long as you're in San Francisco, Oakland, or some of the immediately surrounding neighborhoods. Get a little too far into the suburbs or hills though and it's the same shit as every other suburb in the US: you get a bus that runs once an hour between 8 and 6 and that's it.
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every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
Well BART is the best thing anyone anywhere has ever ridden in publicly. Then there's the Muni which was relatively pretty damn sucky, though I do have to qualify that I was using it as a tourist.
In Austin, you want to avoid nearly all public transportation unless you want to pay to live in a very small section of central Austin. But that's fine. The traffic isn't actually that bad except for the 8-5 rush hours, and if you're flexible with where you live, you can get your commutes to 30 minutes or less. Meanwhile, all of this gets you fairly uncrowded streets.
The only thing you beat Chicago at is length of monorail track. Which is the gayest form of light rail.
Chicago is the birthplace of the modern skyscraper, is a true cardinal grid -unlike New York-, has the best food, and an inland sea that isn't salty. As well as the tallest buildings, largest convention center, and the most dramatic public works of its time. We reversed a motherfucking river.
I've never been to Chicago, but everything I've read about it's public transportation and layout has been very interesting. I want to stay there sometime.
But the climate :P
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every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
The only thing you beat Chicago at is length of monorail track. Which is the gayest form of light rail.
Chicago is the birthplace of the modern skyscraper, is a true cardinal grid -unlike New York-, has the best food, and an inland sea that isn't salty. As well as the tallest buildings, largest convention center, and the most dramatic public works of its time. We reversed a motherfucking river.
Fine, let us bury the hatchet and turn on that which we both dislike.
Washington D.C. is actually really rather nice. A bunch of people I know who don't live here seem to have some mental image of it as one massive ghetto surrounding Capitol Hill though, which is kind of strange.
Oh boy, a bunch of phallic skyscrapers. Natural spaces(Golden Gate Park) beat buildings any day of the week.
Grant Park, the city's front yard and point of entry for Queen Elizabeth II. Chicago also has more parkland than any other urban center, and the Cook County forest preserve covers 68,000 acres of natural site. Ignoring the Conservatories and zoos in the city.
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Especially Chicago.
Unfortunately, it also causes MS.
(Unverified, but I saw the billboard blaming it.)
It's then surrounded by Central Texas as a whole which has similar natural beauty and a bounty of open space.
San Francisco is the awesomest of the huge cities. I love it and want to have its children.
Until you venture out of downtown Seattle and have to interact with the rednecks that are breeding an army just beyond the city limits.
Music and Freebirds. That is all.
I've heard San Fran is amazing.
Los Angeles is a little special slice of hell on earth.
It's never too cold or too hot, but it does get cloudy & foggy a lot.
The public transportation is good in-town, but gets progressively crappier the further away from San Francisco you get.
Living here is more expensive than it might be worth; still trying to make a decision on that one.
People can be really stuck-up about neighborhoods. Actually, there are a lot of stuck-up people here in general.
San Francisco is awesome, but it's not nearly as awesome as it thinks it is, and that makes me want to slap it around sometimes.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
With this,
Except in terms of public transportation. Public transportation in Seattle is shit.
The layout kinda sucks too but you can't really help that when you build your city on a bunch of islands.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Lots of good food, yes little of it is going to be good for you, but it tastes great.
Also if you like beer, there isn't a better city for it.
The lakefront is very pleasant as well, I always enjoyed heading down there to walk around and do a lot of nothing.
In the summer there is also Summerfest, which is basically a 2 week music orgy. Anything you want to hear will be there at some point, and you can hear stuff you didn't even realize existed.
Also, people in Milwaukee aren't quite as up their own ass as the people just south in Chicago. (Had to take a shot at Chicago)
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I've also realised that I love the Las Vegas climate.
Los Angeles is not a city. It's a semi-urban sprawl. There aren't any real skyscrapers or anything. In short, it is not awesome.
San Francisco is an excellent city, though I would not put it quite on par with Seattle.
Los Angeles is an unholy hybrid of big city and crappy suburb. Only it got all of the drawbacks of each and none of the benefits.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
The only thing you beat Chicago at is length of monorail track. Which is the gayest form of light rail.
Chicago is the birthplace of the modern skyscraper, is a true cardinal grid -unlike New York-, has the best food, and an inland sea that isn't salty. As well as the tallest buildings, largest convention center, and the most dramatic public works of its time. We reversed a motherfucking river.
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I don't have a car, I only use the public transportation and it's fine. Unless it's past 11 at night.
Oh, and BAM. Still best.
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Sunrise.
They each share a few stations so it's easy to transfer back and forth. But it's silly that things are so fragmented.
Add to that how each county runs it's own bus system. So to get from arbitrary point A in San Jose to arbitrary point B in San Francisco, you would have to to VTA -> Caltrain -> Muni or VTA -> Caltrain -> BART -> Muni.
Luckily we have a whole website dedicated to helping people figure out the mess, transit.511.org, and the system works as long as you're in San Francisco, Oakland, or some of the immediately surrounding neighborhoods. Get a little too far into the suburbs or hills though and it's the same shit as every other suburb in the US: you get a bus that runs once an hour between 8 and 6 and that's it.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Those confines are not nearly as friendly as Wrigley.
I like to say that LA is a city politely at war with itself.
In Austin, you want to avoid nearly all public transportation unless you want to pay to live in a very small section of central Austin. But that's fine. The traffic isn't actually that bad except for the 8-5 rush hours, and if you're flexible with where you live, you can get your commutes to 30 minutes or less. Meanwhile, all of this gets you fairly uncrowded streets.
The arch is clearly a vaginal symbol.
It looks like someone just dropped a nuclear bomb.
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I've never been to Chicago, but everything I've read about it's public transportation and layout has been very interesting. I want to stay there sometime.
But the climate :P
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Fine, let us bury the hatchet and turn on that which we both dislike.
The city of Boston.
As long as you don't try breathing. Mmmm, the wafting scents of smog, exhaust and dried urine. Oh well, at least it ain't Houston.
San Diego, Portland, or Seattle are nice along the west coast, but I'd still take Honolulu.
It actually looks like that. The colors are vibrant as a motherfucker. Especially in the fall, when you get those real deep reds.
I love Phoenix. I hate Arizona, but I fucking love Phoenix. I'm moving back there.
Edit: New sunset pic!
Grant Park, the city's front yard and point of entry for Queen Elizabeth II. Chicago also has more parkland than any other urban center, and the Cook County forest preserve covers 68,000 acres of natural site. Ignoring the Conservatories and zoos in the city.
I didn't really like Phoenix, dust storms are not my thing.