Are we seriously planning a South East PAX? We should all get together and drink heavily on November 5th. It's either going to be celebratory or self-medicating.
Well...I've got class, but early next year is really open for me, as is March-ish when I have spring break and will likely be down there visiting friends anyway.
Yes... Nov 5. is a Wednesday. I have school Wednesday and thursday. But I'm clear Friday-Monday.
Clearly either child therapists fucking suck, or the ones I went to fucking suck, then, because the most I ever got was an open ear and some low-quality efforts at best.
Oh, and a copy of Ender's Game from one who was at least a good dude.
That sounds remarkably similar to mine, only instead of a book he taught me how to ride a bike.
Half of Oboro's problem at this point is her guilt. She becomes jealous and obsessive over small things, makes them into big things, which become big mistakes, and then beats herself up for it later. She would do well to not constantly occupy her enviably robust intellect with self-analysis, since she often comes to realize the correct course of action, shorts out, and does the complete opposite.
Welcome to borderline personality disorder.
That's like the opposite of what I thought borderline personality was. But then again my understanding of it comes entirely from watching The Sopranos.
BDP is often characterized by poor impulse control leading to episodes of self-destructive behavior followed by periods of intense self-criticism.
Have you talked to her lately? They're looking at neurological disorders. It's kind of crazy.
Nope. Honestly, I lost pretty much any concern I had for her after she quit her job.
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every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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AlectharAlan ShoreWe're not territorial about that sort of thing, are we?Registered Userregular
Really the worst part is that I'll probably end up folding and doing it because I have literally nothing to motivate me to get a degree for anything else. I mean, no matter what I do with a psych degree I'll be in a position to help people and observe people, which is really all that's important to me. So I may as well do it the way my dad wants me to.
Have you ever considered becoming a polygrapher? It seems like an interesting and pretty relaxed profession.
When I said School Psychology like 2 [chat]s ago, dude, I was totally serious. It's a worthwhile profession that can pay very well in the right places, and if you're motivated to do it, you can even get an overseas job with the DoD schools and spend some time in Europe or Japan.
Half of Oboro's problem at this point is her guilt. She becomes jealous and obsessive over small things, makes them into big things, which become big mistakes, and then beats herself up for it later. She would do well to not constantly occupy her enviably robust intellect with self-analysis, since she often comes to realize the correct course of action, shorts out, and does the complete opposite.
Welcome to borderline personality disorder.
That's like the opposite of what I thought borderline personality was. But then again my understanding of it comes entirely from watching The Sopranos.
BDP is often characterized by poor impulse control leading to episodes of self-destructive behavior followed by periods of intense self-criticism.
Have you talked to her lately? They're looking at neurological disorders. It's kind of crazy.
I'm really praying they find a diagnosis that works. I know it's a long shot, but I think many of us have invested something in her well-being. She's our neighborhood lost puppy. I just want her to find a home.
Zimmydoom, Zimmydoom
Flew away in a balloon
Had sex with polar bears
While sitting in a reclining chair
Now there are Zim-Bear hybrids
Running around and clawing eyelids
Watch out, a Zim-Bear is about to have sex with yooooooou!
Oboro may have some problems to sort through, but she is not stupid.
So comparing jes is a to Oboro is kind of dumb.
Half of Oboro's problem at this point is her guilt. She becomes jealous and obsessive over small things, makes them into big things, which become big mistakes, and then beats herself up for it later. She would do well to not constantly occupy her enviably robust intellect with self-analysis, since she often comes to realize the correct course of action, shorts out, and does the complete opposite. Jes does not seem to suffer from an overabundance of self-awareness.
Dammit, stop describing me along with Oboro.
Read it again.
...I'm not sure whether to try and claim that's the Oboro-only part or not.
See, that's the worst part. I know I have issues, I know I need to get past them, I know what my issues are. The shit a therapist could help with is done and I am left with nothing!
That's not how it works, actually. For smart people, knowing what your problems are can often be a serious impediment to progress, since you're really good at finding excuses to avoid actually doing anything about it. Good advice can just be "reasoned" away, whether it's someone else's, or your own. Oboro's a fucking Grand Jedi Master at that shit. A good therapist will recognize this and there are ways to deal with it, but it's not easy.
tl;dr: You need therapy. Go get some.
Well...Fucknuggets.
Where in the hell am I going to find a decent therapist....Should I be looking at a general/adult therapist, or someone focusing on teenagers, or what?
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Half of Oboro's problem at this point is her guilt. She becomes jealous and obsessive over small things, makes them into big things, which become big mistakes, and then beats herself up for it later. She would do well to not constantly occupy her enviably robust intellect with self-analysis, since she often comes to realize the correct course of action, shorts out, and does the complete opposite.
Welcome to borderline personality disorder.
That's like the opposite of what I thought borderline personality was. But then again my understanding of it comes entirely from watching The Sopranos.
BDP is often characterized by poor impulse control leading to episodes of self-destructive behavior followed by periods of intense self-criticism.
The disorder typically involves unusual levels of instability in mood; "black and white" thinking, or "splitting"; chaotic and unstable interpersonal relationships, self-image, identity, and behavior; as well as a disturbance in the individual's sense of self. In extreme cases, this disturbance in the sense of self can lead to periods of dissociation.
It's interesting how well we can categorize personalities if they're noticeably weird and prevalent enough.
Half of Oboro's problem at this point is her guilt. She becomes jealous and obsessive over small things, makes them into big things, which become big mistakes, and then beats herself up for it later. She would do well to not constantly occupy her enviably robust intellect with self-analysis, since she often comes to realize the correct course of action, shorts out, and does the complete opposite.
Welcome to borderline personality disorder.
That's like the opposite of what I thought borderline personality was. But then again my understanding of it comes entirely from watching The Sopranos.
BDP is often characterized by poor impulse control leading to episodes of self-destructive behavior followed by periods of intense self-criticism.
Have you talked to her lately? They're looking at neurological disorders. It's kind of crazy.
Nope. Honestly, I lost pretty much any concern I had for her after she quit her job.
Half of Oboro's problem at this point is her guilt. She becomes jealous and obsessive over small things, makes them into big things, which become big mistakes, and then beats herself up for it later. She would do well to not constantly occupy her enviably robust intellect with self-analysis, since she often comes to realize the correct course of action, shorts out, and does the complete opposite.
Welcome to borderline personality disorder.
How is that normally treated?
Normally, it isn't.
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You guys stop being interesting, I need to write a paper about Plato's dumb ass now.
Really the worst part is that I'll probably end up folding and doing it because I have literally nothing to motivate me to get a degree for anything else. I mean, no matter what I do with a psych degree I'll be in a position to help people and observe people, which is really all that's important to me. So I may as well do it the way my dad wants me to.
Have you ever considered becoming a polygrapher? It seems like an interesting and pretty relaxed pseudoscience.
The science might be fake, but the checks are real.
Really the worst part is that I'll probably end up folding and doing it because I have literally nothing to motivate me to get a degree for anything else. I mean, no matter what I do with a psych degree I'll be in a position to help people and observe people, which is really all that's important to me. So I may as well do it the way my dad wants me to.
Have you ever considered becoming a polygrapher? It seems like an interesting and pretty relaxed pseudoscience.
Pretty much, yeah. Also it seems like it would be boring. Relaxing is good. Boring is bad.
JK if you and De come up this weekend or something, I can't host, but I can certainly take you guys out.
This weekend would be too soon. We should plan things in advanced otherwise I'd have to call out of work and have my boss bitching at me for calling out so often.
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AlectharAlan ShoreWe're not territorial about that sort of thing, are we?Registered Userregular
Oboro may have some problems to sort through, but she is not stupid.
So comparing jes is a to Oboro is kind of dumb.
Half of Oboro's problem at this point is her guilt. She becomes jealous and obsessive over small things, makes them into big things, which become big mistakes, and then beats herself up for it later. She would do well to not constantly occupy her enviably robust intellect with self-analysis, since she often comes to realize the correct course of action, shorts out, and does the complete opposite. Jes does not seem to suffer from an overabundance of self-awareness.
Dammit, stop describing me along with Oboro.
Read it again.
...I'm not sure whether to try and claim that's the Oboro-only part or not.
See, that's the worst part. I know I have issues, I know I need to get past them, I know what my issues are. The shit a therapist could help with is done and I am left with nothing!
That's not how it works, actually. For smart people, knowing what your problems are can often be a serious impediment to progress, since you're really good at finding excuses to avoid actually doing anything about it. Good advice can just be "reasoned" away, whether it's someone else's, or your own. Oboro's a fucking Grand Jedi Master at that shit. A good therapist will recognize this and there are ways to deal with it, but it's not easy.
tl;dr: You need therapy. Go get some.
Well...Fucknuggets.
Where in the hell am I going to find a decent therapist....Should I be looking at a general/adult therapist, or someone focusing on teenagers, or what?
Well, firstly you need to be looking for the right kind of therapy. It's generally called cognitive behavioral therapy, or dialectical behavioral therapy like Feral noted. That's the structure you should be looking for.
Half of Oboro's problem at this point is her guilt. She becomes jealous and obsessive over small things, makes them into big things, which become big mistakes, and then beats herself up for it later. She would do well to not constantly occupy her enviably robust intellect with self-analysis, since she often comes to realize the correct course of action, shorts out, and does the complete opposite.
Welcome to borderline personality disorder.
That's the word I was looking for! Been trying to remember that name for weeks now. Not actually in connection with Obo but a guy I know.
We really should organize a mini South East PAX, though. That would be totally wicked.
Essentially all I need is a time when I don't have school, and I'm in to attend. If I have to I can get my parents to help me on the gas and accommodations.
Oboro may have some problems to sort through, but she is not stupid.
So comparing jes is a to Oboro is kind of dumb.
Half of Oboro's problem at this point is her guilt. She becomes jealous and obsessive over small things, makes them into big things, which become big mistakes, and then beats herself up for it later. She would do well to not constantly occupy her enviably robust intellect with self-analysis, since she often comes to realize the correct course of action, shorts out, and does the complete opposite. Jes does not seem to suffer from an overabundance of self-awareness.
Dammit, stop describing me along with Oboro.
Read it again.
...I'm not sure whether to try and claim that's the Oboro-only part or not.
See, that's the worst part. I know I have issues, I know I need to get past them, I know what my issues are. The shit a therapist could help with is done and I am left with nothing!
A good therapist should be able to help you much further than that, with strategies to reduce anxiety, to help you recognize that "feeling spiral" and short circuit it, and with a series of behavioral changes that will translate into improved thinking processes.
Clearly either child therapists fucking suck, or the ones I went to fucking suck, then, because the most I ever got was an open ear and some low-quality efforts at best.
Oh, and a copy of Ender's Game from one who was at least a good dude.
It takes time. I saw one guy for like four years when I was a teenager, I always felt like I was wasting my time. Now I fully realize how incredibly important it was for me to work with him. At the time I even went through a period where I hated him, because he would demand that I attend sessions even when my migraines were so bad I could have been hospitalized. I thought he was just a greedy fuck, because he told my mother he intended to charge us full price for a missed session, which of course wasn't covered by our insurance and we couldn't afford it. It was only years later I realized that he was just trying to teach me how not to be a victim, that if I was going to have any life whatsoever I needed to accept my condition and just try harder. Failure was OK, but giving up was not.
He never actually billed us for those missed appointments.
Zimmydoom, Zimmydoom
Flew away in a balloon
Had sex with polar bears
While sitting in a reclining chair
Now there are Zim-Bear hybrids
Running around and clawing eyelids
Watch out, a Zim-Bear is about to have sex with yooooooou!
Oboro may have some problems to sort through, but she is not stupid.
So comparing jes is a to Oboro is kind of dumb.
Half of Oboro's problem at this point is her guilt. She becomes jealous and obsessive over small things, makes them into big things, which become big mistakes, and then beats herself up for it later. She would do well to not constantly occupy her enviably robust intellect with self-analysis, since she often comes to realize the correct course of action, shorts out, and does the complete opposite. Jes does not seem to suffer from an overabundance of self-awareness.
Dammit, stop describing me along with Oboro.
Read it again.
...I'm not sure whether to try and claim that's the Oboro-only part or not.
See, that's the worst part. I know I have issues, I know I need to get past them, I know what my issues are. The shit a therapist could help with is done and I am left with nothing!
That's not how it works, actually. For smart people, knowing what your problems are can often be a serious impediment to progress, since you're really good at finding excuses to avoid actually doing anything about it. Good advice can just be "reasoned" away, whether it's someone else's, or your own. Oboro's a fucking Grand Jedi Master at that shit. A good therapist will recognize this and there are ways to deal with it, but it's not easy.
tl;dr: You need therapy. Go get some.
Well...Fucknuggets.
Where in the hell am I going to find a decent therapist....Should I be looking at a general/adult therapist, or someone focusing on teenagers, or what?
Well, firstly you need to be looking for the right kind of therapy. It's generally called cognitive behavioral therapy, or dialectical behavioral therapy like Feral noted. That's the structure you should be looking for.
What exactly is this going to involve?
And for that matter, is it something you can do via the internets? I'm in a pretty shitty situation transportation-wise and time-wise.
I wasn't drunk, I had maybe two drinks, but it was fresh on my breathe because I was drinking while driving.
I really hope prison teaches you "right" from "stupid."
I am going to jail not prison.
All I can say is: That's a god damned shame you fucking moron.
You and I are going to be best friends.
Yeah. Growing up in a small town with rampant alcoholism and bad roads. I known a few DUI victims myself. Often the ones that die are almost the lucky ones. They don't have their life completely derailed and fucked by medical bills and chronic health problems and dropping out of school etc....
Are we seriously planning a South East PAX? We should all get together and drink heavily on November 5th. It's either going to be celebratory or self-medicating.
I'm unlikely to make it to that, but I'll probably be in Kennesaw during Dec-Jan.
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Yes... Nov 5. is a Wednesday. I have school Wednesday and thursday. But I'm clear Friday-Monday.
Yeah, different brands of crazy. I am fairly sure rather a lot of what Obo posts is completely fabricated. But jes is just a worthless asshole.
Try Florida.
That sounds remarkably similar to mine, only instead of a book he taught me how to ride a bike.
Nope. Honestly, I lost pretty much any concern I had for her after she quit her job.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
When I said School Psychology like 2 [chat]s ago, dude, I was totally serious. It's a worthwhile profession that can pay very well in the right places, and if you're motivated to do it, you can even get an overseas job with the DoD schools and spend some time in Europe or Japan.
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I'm really praying they find a diagnosis that works. I know it's a long shot, but I think many of us have invested something in her well-being. She's our neighborhood lost puppy. I just want her to find a home.
Well...Fucknuggets.
Where in the hell am I going to find a decent therapist....Should I be looking at a general/adult therapist, or someone focusing on teenagers, or what?
It's interesting how well we can categorize personalities if they're noticeably weird and prevalent enough.
It's getting pretty cold here, now. Not bad.
What town do you live in, anyways, Inquisitor?
Feral, why are you so right all the time?
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Normally, it isn't.
Except about John Hughes
Glendale. It's right by LA, Burbank, Pasadena area.
A few hours from me, then.
Pretty much, yeah. Also it seems like it would be boring. Relaxing is good. Boring is bad.
Where is "up" precisely?
Which is where?
This weekend would be too soon. We should plan things in advanced otherwise I'd have to call out of work and have my boss bitching at me for calling out so often.
Well, firstly you need to be looking for the right kind of therapy. It's generally called cognitive behavioral therapy, or dialectical behavioral therapy like Feral noted. That's the structure you should be looking for.
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That's the word I was looking for! Been trying to remember that name for weeks now. Not actually in connection with Obo but a guy I know.
Woodstock, about 45 minutes north of Atlanta.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Atlanta.
I cannot approve of this enough. It'll give me a chance to observe what you people are like for real.
And it simply could make for a fantastic memory. A night of revelry we would never forget.
This is inexcusable.
Essentially all I need is a time when I don't have school, and I'm in to attend. If I have to I can get my parents to help me on the gas and accommodations.
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It takes time. I saw one guy for like four years when I was a teenager, I always felt like I was wasting my time. Now I fully realize how incredibly important it was for me to work with him. At the time I even went through a period where I hated him, because he would demand that I attend sessions even when my migraines were so bad I could have been hospitalized. I thought he was just a greedy fuck, because he told my mother he intended to charge us full price for a missed session, which of course wasn't covered by our insurance and we couldn't afford it. It was only years later I realized that he was just trying to teach me how not to be a victim, that if I was going to have any life whatsoever I needed to accept my condition and just try harder. Failure was OK, but giving up was not.
He never actually billed us for those missed appointments.
What exactly is this going to involve?
And for that matter, is it something you can do via the internets? I'm in a pretty shitty situation transportation-wise and time-wise.
Oooh, that's not bad at all. Cool.
We need to get a list of everybody within a few hours. Bama, how far away from Atlanta do you live?
Yeah. Growing up in a small town with rampant alcoholism and bad roads. I known a few DUI victims myself. Often the ones that die are almost the lucky ones. They don't have their life completely derailed and fucked by medical bills and chronic health problems and dropping out of school etc....
I'm unlikely to make it to that, but I'll probably be in Kennesaw during Dec-Jan.
382 mi – about 5 hours 55 mins about what I had guessed for a trip time.