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The worst system ever made: 20 Years Later.
Xenogears of Bore
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Twenty years or so ago, this system was aborted onto Japanese shores by a little known AMERICAN arcade company known as SEGA. Let us reflect on twenty years of gensisn't, and what's to come. Favorite games, favorite experiences, what have you, let's hear them.
Personally, I've had one for about fifteen years, and unfortunately it's been a bit of a downer. I have difficulty finding new and interesting games for the thing, or games that aren't NHL '94.
Not that I don't dislike the MD. Sega Channel has been amazing, and I actually have about 15 SMS games, even though I own so few retail games.
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First game I ever played was the original Sonic
Oh how the mighty have fallen
Their Wii/DS lineup for second half 08 through 09 is nothing short of amazing.
Pokemon Safari - Sneasel, Pawniard, ????
Founded by Americans. Kinda like how Obama is a Muslim by completely not being one.
yes, especially the games they're not actually making!
God I would game that girl, and I would game it hard
Producing is the most important part of the chain.
You take all the risks, you get all the rewards.
It's serious in that the Genesis did come out twenty years ago yesterday in Japan and it should be remembered.
As an SNES lifer, I'm remembering it FONDLY.
What 360 thread?
Pokemon Safari - Sneasel, Pawniard, ????
The reason being? It put up such a fight against Nintendo, and split the world into east versus west.
Genesis was first out of the gate, got the big western support, had the incredible ad and word of mouth campaign. Sega was cool.
SNES had the amazing graphics, incredible sound, the eastern support, yet it was two years later and had a lot of ground to cover.
SEGA had the CD, the 32x, arguably the finest hummingbird based shooter, blood in MK1, more sports games, Sonic.
SNES had the Playstation (didn't come out) better controls in MK1, less sports games, oh, and arguably the finest library of Japanese games to ever grace one system.
But still, Genesis was a fighter.
360 is close to putting up a fight against the Wii. This time the battlefield has shifted. Instead of just west versus east it is West+PC+mainstream HD graphics versus East+casuals+waggle.
Don't congratulate him, it'll only make him stronger
Fuckers were too far ahead of their time
He's hiding in GAF, waiting for his moment to strike. He gives my heart no fear, as any true Nintendo fanboy is immune to anything Sega throws at us from that era.
Besides Segata of course. You'd be a fool not to fear him. But that should be saved for a Saturn landmark anyways.
And some real stinkers.
Remember that Barney game? Yikes.
But the Tiny Toon Adventures game? Awesome.
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Then I found a Genesis model 2 for 5 bucks yesterday, it is awesome.
Whats the difference between them though?
I have a soft spot for Vectorman also, as well as Sonic 2, my favourite Sonic game ever.
Not as fond as I had remembered.
Sorry, TSR!
MD/Genesis
JAPAN
Japanese-language settings
Headphone jack
AUX port marked A/V OUT
9-pin EXT. port
No internal RF modulator
Has a cartridge lock
On the circular molding, in purple is the text "AV Intelligent Terminal High Grade Multipurpose Use". At the bottom of the circle is a purple square section with a red power indicator LED.
"Mega Drive" is printed in white on the lower right of the console to the left of the Sega logo.
The reset button and start button on the joypad are blue.
Model number HAA-2510
Europe, Australia, and New Zealand
The original PAL Mega Drive
Two versions of the Mega Drive controller: three-button (top) and six-button (bottom) pads
Converted to display PAL 50 Hz signal
English-language settings
Unable to play Japanese Mega Drive games due to shape of cartridge and console. However, adapters were sold to play Japanese games in the European model.
Cartridge lock removed
The text "High Definition Graphics · Stereo Sound" located behind cartridge port (only found on earlier models).
The reset button and the start button are white.
Model number 1600-03 (original model), 1601-03 (second variation without "High Definition Graphics - Stereo Sound" text or EXT port)
Brazil
Converted to display PAL-M (60 Hz) signal
English-language settings
Unable to play Japanese and European Mega Drive games due to region limitation. However, adapters were sold to play Japanese and European games in the Brazilian model.
Cartridge lock removed
Toymaker Tec Toy manufactured and distributed the console.
The text "High Definition Graphics · Stereo Sound" located behind cartridge port (only found on earlier models).
The reset button and the start button are white.
Asia
Asian PAL Mega Drive
This console is a variant of the European Mega Drive and often mistaken for a Japanese Mega Drive.
No text printed around circle
Larger "16-Bit" logo used
Power panel magenta instead of white.
"Start" and "Reset" button are blue
Identical to European Mega Drive with PAL or NTSC output
Used Japanese Mega Drive logo and packaging similar to the Japanese version
Games packaged the same as European with the same labeling. However, the cartridges are shaped like Japanese Mega Drive games.
Model number: 1601-15 (revision without the EXT port)
Sega Genesis (North America)
Early North American Sega Genesis Model #1 with "High Definition Graphics" logo
Headphone jack
AUX port marked A/V OUT
9-pin EXT. port on early models
Reset and start buttons are gray
"Sega Genesis" in white on top of machine below cartridge slot
Model number MK-1601 is made in Japan, newer revisions were made in Taiwan to cut production costs
Japan
Japanese Sega Mega Drive II
New square shape
No headphone jack
One custom multi-output for picture and sound
Red colored flaps on cartridge port
The text "High Grade Multi Purpose Intelligent Terminal" located behind cartridge port.
Packaged with six-button controller.
No power LED
Europe, Australia, and New Zealand
Sega Mega Drive II, PAL version.
New square shape
No headphone jack
A/V port switched to one custom multi-output for picture and sound (previously, only mono sound was used, as the stereo sound came through the headphone jack)
Push-button power switch
Power port smaller, and different AC adapter used
RF modulator removed
Has a red power LED between the power and reset buttons
Auto-switching RF lead included
Model number MK-1631-50
Sega Genesis (North America, second model)
Sega Genesis (second model), with clips in place on the cartridge slot to help accommodate a 32X system.
Note: This model was not officially named "Genesis 2".
New square shape
No headphone jack
One custom multi-output for picture and sound
Has a red power LED between the power and reset buttons
"Genesis" in square above cartridge slot
Model number MK-1631
In Japan the Dreamcast actually went on to have a fairly long lifespan. It was no PS2 still but it had a long life and many new games made for it years after it was abandoned over here in North America. But yes you are right it was soooo underrated, it had so many cool things on it that other systems didnt have, it was ahead of its time, as were a lot of Sega systems. Look at Game Gear, that never really took off either, but it was full colour and backlit and had graphics on par with the SNES and yet was completely overlooked. It took Nintendo YEARS to get backlit colour gameboy, and their first attempt, Gameboy Color, was total trash.
On the side of the system the OP was talking about, that system gave us a few of the best RPG's ever, Phantasy Star.
EDIT: I also own 3 master systems.... i dont know if they all work...honestly i dont even remember where i picked them up, i know one i had as a kid...the other two i just kind of accumulated. I guess same reason i have 2 dreamcasts.
Of course the GBC was a terrible attempt at being a color backlit system. It didn't have a back light at all. It did however have a very high quality screen, some of the best games ever, and a battery life longer than 29.3 minutes on 2 AA as opposed to SIX.
Though on the subject of handhelds, the NOMAD does kick ass. If only for the size of the beast. I love it.
as far as I'm concerend GBC games were made for the super game boy.
Pokemon Safari - Sneasel, Pawniard, ????
- The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse (2017, colorized)
Shadow Dancer would also be high on the list, along with Streets of Rage.
Still, I love my Sega Genesis to this day mostly for this little gem:
That +
= bliss. SNES who?
I see your Lunar and I counteract with
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The blue hedgehog to the war is gone
In the ranks of death you will find him
SEGA's sword he hath girded on
And his wild console slung behind him
"Land of Play!" said the blue hedgehog
"Though all the world betrays me
One sword, at least, thy rights shall guard,
One faithful fan shall praise thee!"
The hedgehog fell but Nintendo's chain
Could not bring that proud soul under
The console he lov'd ne'er run again
For he tore its chords asunder
And said "No chains shall sully thee
Thou soul of love and bravery!
Thy games were made for the pure and free
They shall never run in slavery!"
You win this thread sir. I tip my hat. Lunar is one of my all time favourite games and i have the big fancy box remake with all the cool stuff in it for PS1. Man that game is worth a stupid amount of money.
I see your Chrono Trigger and counter with
Other than its the exact same game except complete is uncut and has cool cutscenes, voice acting and a massively improved musical score...wait how is Silver Star the original better?
Complete is uncut? You've got that mixed up.
They removed a ton from the original game. The dungeons are all smaller, as is the overworld, no random battles(which makes it much easier), and they changed a ton of aspects to the story. You probably shouldn't read this if you haven't played Lunar.
In the original:
Royce and Phacia don't exist.
Alex plays a harp.
Luna doesn't go to Meribia with Alex.
The Vile Tribe kidnaps all of Burg's townspeople and replaces Alex's parents with demons after Quark's death.
Ghaleon has a completely different demonic-esque final form.
I could probably go on, but that's the major stuff.
The remake has a lot more polish, but I think it took away too much from what I enjoyed about the original.
And Eternal Blue for the Sega CD was stellar when it came out, since it had the same benefits of Lunar Complete; more animation, more voice acting, etc.
The Complete Lunar 2 doesn't quite have the same impact. Not really a negative though, just a nitpick.