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Godfuckingdamnit, I purchased my copy of Home Premium and was told the 64-bit disc was in the case by the assistant.
When I open it, I am greeted by a DVD that clearly states: "Does not contain 64-bit software."
After shaking the case violently, I leaflet drops in front of my that says at the top, "Need 64-bit?" I then end up having to order (and pay for shipping) the 64-bit DVD. Should be here in a week.
If he told you 64bit was in the case, take it back and get the right disc. You shouldn't have to pay extra if he told you it was there.
I called Microsoft and they told me all retail versions contain 32-bit software, so I called the retailer back and told them to no longer tell customers that the cases contained 64-bit software, and instead that they had to order it from MS for 10 bones.
I called Microsoft and they told me all retail versions contain 32-bit software, so I called the retailer back and told them to no longer tell customers that the cases contained 64-bit software, and instead that they had to order it from MS for 10 bones.
Except for the Ultimate retail set, which actually does include the 64-bit disk (along with the 32-bit one, of course.) Really wonder why they didn't just put 64-bit disks in the other ones too, but hey. Maybe they wanted to save on disks :P
I called Microsoft and they told me all retail versions contain 32-bit software, so I called the retailer back and told them to no longer tell customers that the cases contained 64-bit software, and instead that they had to order it from MS for 10 bones.
Except for the Ultimate retail set, which actually does include the 64-bit disk (along with the 32-bit one, of course.) Really wonder why they didn't just put 64-bit disks in the other ones too, but hey. Maybe they wanted to save on disks :P
Just pointing out you don't actually need the earlier version of windows installed (unless MS has just recently changed their SOP,) but if you don't, you WILL need the installation media of the OS to be upgraded from (will ask for it to be inserted when you do a fresh install) to verify ownership thereof.
yes, that changed with Vista.
What did it change to?
If I have XP Pro, but it's a dell system disk and not a MS OS disk, can I use it to get a vista upgrade? Or will it not fly.
Also to the above poster, upgrade disks contain the same install as normal disks, but in a sense you're right, if you do an upgrade install it tends to be not quite as clean; but unless they've changed Vista you can always do a clean install from an upgrade disk assuming you do it correctly.
simply putting a disc in the drive is not good enough. the vista upgrade will only work if you have a version of windows already installed on the computer. This is why every single vista upgrade workaround trick has you installing windows twice.
well that's annoying. I was thinking of getting a student vista upgrade for my laptop assuming I can fix it and assuming I like vista on the new pc I'm getting; but that sounds like a pain in the ass.
My laptop can handle vista no problem but I dunno. I like clean installs.
We'll see though, if I can get the vista ultimate upgrade for $70 it might be worth it being so cheap; or my wife can get home premium (which i got for my pc too) for a bit more, but having the same versions would be easier on my brain.
I don't like they took out the option for a clean install though. I don't know why they'd want to.
My laptop can handle vista no problem but I dunno. I like clean installs.
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I don't like they took out the option for a clean install though. I don't know why they'd want to.
The workaround is installing the upgrade without inputting the CD key (DVD key now I guess ) It will install a clean trial version of Vista. You then reinstall Vista afterwards to "upgrade" the trial version. You end up with a clean install, but you need to install Vista twice.
Question for Vista Savvy folks out there. I recently built a new machine and installed Vista Home Premium x64. Don't really want to shell out an extra $100 for Ultimate but I do want to have remote desktop capabilities. I've heard there is limited support for VNC in Vista. Anyone have experience with VNC in Vista x64? How rough is it to setup compared to XP? (XP was easy, but from some Google searching it appear Vista has issues.)
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HardtargetThere Are Four LightsVancouverRegistered Userregular
edited November 2008
i've been using Vista 64 since the day SP1 came out, no problems at all.
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BarcardiAll the WizardsUnder A Rock: AfganistanRegistered Userregular
Flash works fine in IE and Firefox if you run the 32-bit versions (if I'm not mistaken, IE 32-bit is the default browser anyway on 64-bit Vista), but there's no plugin for IE 64-bit.
I love 64-bit Windows, seems incredibly stable to me... I've been using it on my gaming PC for quite some time now...
I have a Media Center PC running 32-bit Vista... I'm wondering, would I see any real benefit in upgrading it to 64-bit? It does playback HDDVDs and BluRay discs, would it use less processor power to do it? Are there any real benefits in making that jump?
I'm not too sure on the specifics, but I believe unless there are 64-bit versions of the programs, you wouldn't gain any performance, and even if there were, there might not be that big of a difference. I know some math-intensive programs get performance boosts when switching to their 64-bit versions on a 64-bit OS, but overall I don't think there's any gains to be had.
Depends on what you're playing on it really. My media PC is running Vista Ultimate x64, and I noticed a distinct improvement when playing Blu-ray/H.264 files under Media Player Classic-HC 64.
Plus as cheap as RAM is these days, load that puppy with 4GB+ for the hell of it.
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Depends on what you're playing on it really. My media PC is running Vista Ultimate x64, and I noticed a distinct improvement when playing Blu-ray/H.264 files under Media Player Classic-HC 64.
Plus as cheap as RAM is these days, load that puppy with 4GB+ for the hell of it.
Waiting for my disc to "arrive" and another hard drive so I can clean install it without having to back up all my data to another hard drive.
So I just ordered a new laptop with Vista 64 Home Premium on it. This will be my first foray into both Vista and 64 bitting.
What kinds of new and exciting things can I do with my new operating system? What kind of cool gadgets are there to rock my sidebar? What's the best way to set up Aero so it still looks pretty but doesn't drain my battery like whoa?
I got an integrated video card (Intel GMA4500HD or something, and a Core 2 Duo P8400 processor) so I'm not planning on running new stuff, but there are some older games I'd like to stick on there like Alpha Centauri, maybe Civ 2, and a slight chance of WoW. Do these run in 64-bit?
I don't feel there's much of a reason to worry about how much memory the sidebar is using, especially if you're rocking 4+ gigs of RAM. It's not like we're back in the days where you had to edit your autoexec and config.sys :P
edit: Also although the "sidebar" is gone, you can still put gadgets in places. I will have mine conveniently placed on the side.
I actually am very dumb when it comes to computers, but my question is I have 32 bit vista ultimate and want to upgrade to 64bit. Would I have to buy the 64bit version?
I actually am very dumb when it comes to computers, but my question is I have 32 bit vista ultimate and want to upgrade to 64bit. Would I have to buy the 64bit version?
If you have the retail DVD then the DVD should have both versions, and your key should be good for both versions.
I don't feel there's much of a reason to worry about how much memory the sidebar is using, especially if you're rocking 4+ gigs of RAM. It's not like we're back in the days where you had to edit your autoexec and config.sys :P
edit: Also although the "sidebar" is gone, you can still put gadgets in places. I will have mine conveniently placed on the side.
You could do that in Vista as well. Just drag the gadget onto the desktop and close the sidebar.
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So, how does one go about installing custom visual styles in this anyway? I am particularly interesting in killing the depressing black task bar and border around maximized apps, as well as the horrible 3D gradient look on the toolbars of some apps (e.g. Firefox or Foobar).
So, how does one go about installing custom visual styles in this anyway? I am particularly interesting in killing the depressing black task bar and border around maximized apps, as well as the horrible 3D gradient look on the toolbars of some apps (e.g. Firefox or Foobar).
There is a add-on for Firefox which makes it look proper Vista native.
ANyway, I'm installing orange box. I heard there's a x64 installation for source. Where would I find this. When I installed it didn't seem to do anything differently.
I really like Dreamscene, but if you have a large display, it's hard to get a good high quality video that loops perfectly, you like, and doesn't appear grainy or distorted.
Loving 64-bit Vista Ultimate. Also with dual monitors (or perhaps widescreen?) the sidebar is awesome. And screw you "waste of memory" guys. Unused memory is the real waste. Vista will automagically adjust memory usage to accommodate any programs that need it anyway so quit your whining (unless you have less than 2GB then that just sucks).
All Vista discs are identical, there are a few different ones. 32bit, 64bit and OEM versions.
What is the key for? If it's not an upgrade key then you can install Vista without doing an upgrade install.
If it is an upgrade key then you do a clean install without entering a key but selecting the version you'll use, once installed reinstall but select the upgrade option and enter your key.
I hate that choice though, before all you needed was the previous versions disc rather than having to install windows twice.
I have an upgrade version of Ultimate, but when I try to boot from the DVD and install it, it gets to the load bar where it says "Microsoft Corporation" completes that, then the Vista -ish background where I imagine it should have the install options, but it just hangs. The CD Drive stops, HDD light isn't blinking, I have mouse control but nothing ever comes up.
System Specs:
Intel E8500 3.16ghz Dual Core
EVGA GeForce 9800 GTX+
GSkill DDR2 4g(2g x 2) RAM
WD Caviar 500g SATA
Asus P5Q pro INTEL motherboard
Asus 20x Lightscribe DVD/CD burner
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BarcardiAll the WizardsUnder A Rock: AfganistanRegistered Userregular
edited November 2008
i was having the exact same issue but then i just left it on and running there for about 10 minutes... still nothing.
then i tapped some buttons on my keyboard (direct connect to the mobo, no usb) and that loaded it up
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I called Microsoft and they told me all retail versions contain 32-bit software, so I called the retailer back and told them to no longer tell customers that the cases contained 64-bit software, and instead that they had to order it from MS for 10 bones.
Except for the Ultimate retail set, which actually does include the 64-bit disk (along with the 32-bit one, of course.) Really wonder why they didn't just put 64-bit disks in the other ones too, but hey. Maybe they wanted to save on disks :P
Try the excuse that involves more money.
"Includes 32-bit DVD and information on obtaining 32-bit CDs or a 64-bit DVD, additional fees may apply"
is hidden in small font on the bottom of the awkwardly-shaped box that is weird as shit to open.
simply putting a disc in the drive is not good enough. the vista upgrade will only work if you have a version of windows already installed on the computer. This is why every single vista upgrade workaround trick has you installing windows twice.
My laptop can handle vista no problem but I dunno. I like clean installs.
We'll see though, if I can get the vista ultimate upgrade for $70 it might be worth it being so cheap; or my wife can get home premium (which i got for my pc too) for a bit more, but having the same versions would be easier on my brain.
I don't like they took out the option for a clean install though. I don't know why they'd want to.
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The workaround is installing the upgrade without inputting the CD key (DVD key now I guess
Question for Vista Savvy folks out there. I recently built a new machine and installed Vista Home Premium x64. Don't really want to shell out an extra $100 for Ultimate but I do want to have remote desktop capabilities. I've heard there is limited support for VNC in Vista. Anyone have experience with VNC in Vista x64? How rough is it to setup compared to XP? (XP was easy, but from some Google searching it appear Vista has issues.)
wait... so can you run anything flash then?
Online flash is working for me. Just runs in 32bit not 64
Flash works fine in IE and Firefox if you run the 32-bit versions (if I'm not mistaken, IE 32-bit is the default browser anyway on 64-bit Vista), but there's no plugin for IE 64-bit.
I love 64-bit Windows, seems incredibly stable to me... I've been using it on my gaming PC for quite some time now...
I have a Media Center PC running 32-bit Vista... I'm wondering, would I see any real benefit in upgrading it to 64-bit? It does playback HDDVDs and BluRay discs, would it use less processor power to do it? Are there any real benefits in making that jump?
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Plus as cheap as RAM is these days, load that puppy with 4GB+ for the hell of it.
Waiting for my disc to "arrive" and another hard drive so I can clean install it without having to back up all my data to another hard drive.
What kinds of new and exciting things can I do with my new operating system? What kind of cool gadgets are there to rock my sidebar? What's the best way to set up Aero so it still looks pretty but doesn't drain my battery like whoa?
I got an integrated video card (Intel GMA4500HD or something, and a Core 2 Duo P8400 processor) so I'm not planning on running new stuff, but there are some older games I'd like to stick on there like Alpha Centauri, maybe Civ 2, and a slight chance of WoW. Do these run in 64-bit?
I'm vibrating with excitement!
edit: Also although the "sidebar" is gone, you can still put gadgets in places. I will have mine conveniently placed on the side.
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You could do that in Vista as well. Just drag the gadget onto the desktop and close the sidebar.
Is there somewhere I can read up on all this nonsense?
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You'll find out as soon as it's done installing. Really they're just a glorified distraction.
Most of them are pointless. I do, however, like the bandwidth monitor gadget, which is actually very handy.
Speaking of firefox, is there a 64bit firefox? I only see the x32 one on the site and no links for x64.
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There isn't an official 64-bit Firefox build, but I think there're some that people have compiled floating around.
There is a add-on for Firefox which makes it look proper Vista native.
I posted the details in my Firefox thread here.
Think i'll update that thread when Firefox 3.1 RC's start appearing.
For example:
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I've got a spare copy of Portal, if anyone wants it message me.
ANyway, I'm installing orange box. I heard there's a x64 installation for source. Where would I find this. When I installed it didn't seem to do anything differently.
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also are any of the windows ultimate extras worth it or cool to have?
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I have an upgrade version of Ultimate, but when I try to boot from the DVD and install it, it gets to the load bar where it says "Microsoft Corporation" completes that, then the Vista -ish background where I imagine it should have the install options, but it just hangs. The CD Drive stops, HDD light isn't blinking, I have mouse control but nothing ever comes up.
System Specs:
Intel E8500 3.16ghz Dual Core
EVGA GeForce 9800 GTX+
GSkill DDR2 4g(2g x 2) RAM
WD Caviar 500g SATA
Asus P5Q pro INTEL motherboard
Asus 20x Lightscribe DVD/CD burner
then i tapped some buttons on my keyboard (direct connect to the mobo, no usb) and that loaded it up
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion
Change the ProductName from "Windows Vista â„¢ Enterprise†to “Windows Vista â„¢ Businessâ€
Change EditionID from "Enterprise" to “Businessâ€
DON'T RESTART. Just put in the disc and start upgrading. By default, the option for Ultimate is grayed out. You can now select the option!