Good Chultlu stories?

noir_bloodnoir_blood Registered User regular
edited November 2008 in Help / Advice Forum
So I just realized that I have never read any lovecraft or Chultlu stories, and are aiming to change that. What should I read? Are the original lovecraft stories good? I have heard that they are kinda unwieldy. Also, if any one can recommend stuff to read online, that'll be great as my job currently has quite a bit of downtime.

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  • Rhan9Rhan9 Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Here you go: http://www.dagonbytes.com/thelibrary/lovecraft/

    I'd suggest reading The Shadow Over Innsmouth, though a lot of them are good. You can probably find the stories elsewhere, but I tend read them in the old fashioned paper format. His stories are quite full of purple prose. It's part of the way he writes, and makes it interesting.

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  • Darth WaiterDarth Waiter Elrond Hubbard Mordor XenuRegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    At The Mountains of Madness still gets me. I was reading it last night and I had some messed up dreams.

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  • FandyienFandyien But Otto, what about us? Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    The Rats in The Walls and At The Mountains Of Madness are both classics. See also: call of Cthulhu, A Shadow Over Innsmouth, and pretty much any of his numerous short stories.

    Also, if you like Lovecraft, check out some Robert E. Howard, the inventor of Conan the Barbarian and someone who was clearly influenced by / influenced Lovecraft in their years of correspondence.

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  • ceresceres When the last moon is cast over the last star of morning And the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited November 2008
    My favorite story by Lovecraft was also one of his shortest: "The Color Out of Space". "The Rats in the Walls" was very creepy, as was "Pickman's Model". "At the Mountains of Madness" is indeed a classic, as is "The Shadow Over Innsmouth". "The Dunwich Horror" is also notable, and "Herbert West - Reanimator" was made into a movie in 1985. There's another I wanted to mention, but I don't remember the name and it's been a while, so they start to run together a bit. It's about a house that makes everyone who lives in it sick. "Color" is maybe 7 pages long. Most of the other stories aren't more than 30 pages, and many are substantially less.

    If you're looking for something longer, The Case of Charles Dexter Ward is quite famous, and was quite good, although one thing to keep in mind about Lovecraft is that he is very wordy and tends to use vocabulary that is somewhat non-standard today, so the longer story might be something to work up to if you have a shorter attention span. If you're not sure you're up to the task, I'd have a dictionary on hand.

    Avoid his fantasy, i.e. anything with "Kadath" in the title, because it's crappy.

    In the Mouth of Madness is a pretty blatant homage to Lovecraft's work. Starring Sam Niel (with appearances from Charleton Heston and other people that will make you say "I know that guy!"), it's about 10 years old and shows its age a bit, but is pretty creepy anyway. Watch in widescreen if possible.

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  • naporeonnaporeon Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    The Picture in the House is my favorite, despite its brevity.

    It's very rereadable. In fact, it gets way creepier on further reading.

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  • KenninatorKenninator Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    "Dagon" was the first Lovecraft story I had ever read, and it's still my favorite.

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  • JNighthawkJNighthawk Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Everything mentioned so far in this thread is fantastic. To add some redundancy, my favorites are Shadow Over Innsmouth and At the Mountains of Madness.

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  • ToefooToefoo Los Angeles, CARegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    You should definitely go to a bookstore and buy one of the many collections. I had a lot of them in the old school, small paperback books with the crazy art, but I lost them when I moved (a great tragedy). I immediately went to Borders and picked up this http://www.amazon.com/Cthulhu-Stories-Penguin-Twentieth-Century-Classics/dp/0141182342/ref=pd_bbs_6?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1226480822&sr=8-6.

    It has all the stories mentioned above plus more of his great short stories (including Call of Cthulu) and I picked it up for maybe $12. It's only $10 on Amazon, so I definitely recommend grabbing it. It really is a steal for the price.

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  • ZyreZyre Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    noir_blood wrote: »
    Also, if any one can recommend stuff to read online, that'll be great as my job currently has quite a bit of downtime.

    How about finding something to do at work that doesn't waste your companies time? I am aghast at how many people talk about how much downtime their job has when they could be doing something in that "downtime" that could lead to a raise or promotion.

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  • Sir CarcassSir Carcass I have been shown the end of my world Round Rock, TXRegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Zyre wrote: »
    noir_blood wrote: »
    Also, if any one can recommend stuff to read online, that'll be great as my job currently has quite a bit of downtime.

    How about finding something to do at work that doesn't waste your companies time? I am aghast at how many people talk about how much downtime their job has when they could be doing something in that "downtime" that could lead to a raise or promotion.

    Uh, depending on the job, sometimes there's nothing to do. Mine is a good example. Periods of madness followed by periods of nothing to do.

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  • Rhan9Rhan9 Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Zyre wrote: »
    noir_blood wrote: »
    Also, if any one can recommend stuff to read online, that'll be great as my job currently has quite a bit of downtime.

    How about finding something to do at work that doesn't waste your companies time? I am aghast at how many people talk about how much downtime their job has when they could be doing something in that "downtime" that could lead to a raise or promotion.

    Uh, depending on the job, sometimes there's nothing to do. Mine is a good example. Periods of madness followed by periods of nothing to do.

    He speaks the truth. Sometimes, there is absolutely nothing productive to do. For example, certain duties in a warehouse being assigned to you, that you can't walk away from, i.e. supervising a line that brings shipments in. Too bad that the next shipment comes in three hours, and you're stationed there.
    (luckily I only had to do that a few times, it's enough to drive a person utterly bonkers)

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  • FantasmaFantasma Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Hi,

    There is a movie called Dagon, based on novel The Shadow over Innsmouth:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dagon_(film)

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  • Rhan9Rhan9 Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Oh, how could I forget this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Call_of_Cthulhu_(film)

    Follows the original story very closely, and the movie is excellent, provided that you like(or tolerate) 1920's silent film style.

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  • noir_bloodnoir_blood Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Rhan9 wrote: »
    Zyre wrote: »
    noir_blood wrote: »
    Also, if any one can recommend stuff to read online, that'll be great as my job currently has quite a bit of downtime.

    How about finding something to do at work that doesn't waste your companies time? I am aghast at how many people talk about how much downtime their job has when they could be doing something in that "downtime" that could lead to a raise or promotion.

    Uh, depending on the job, sometimes there's nothing to do. Mine is a good example. Periods of madness followed by periods of nothing to do.

    He speaks the truth. Sometimes, there is absolutely nothing productive to do. For example, certain duties in a warehouse being assigned to you, that you can't walk away from, i.e. supervising a line that brings shipments in. Too bad that the next shipment comes in three hours, and you're stationed there.
    (luckily I only had to do that a few times, it's enough to drive a person utterly bonkers)

    And there's the fact that I work at a call center, which is notorious for having long stretches of busy followed by stretches of downtime. And it's either that or taking time off for low call volume, which I don't get paid for.

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  • Page-Page- Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    The Annotated Lovecraft books are very good. Check them out, for sure.

    Lovecrafts Cthulhu stories vary in quality. I liked "The Call of Cthulhu," "Shadow over Innsmouth" is good, but doesn't involve Cthulhu (it's about Dagon mostly), "The Dunwich Horror" ire pretty good, "At the Mountains of Madness" was alright, and changed Cthulhu from supernatural horror to Sci-Fi horror, which was neat. You may get tired of things being described as indescribable and unknowable, but it's just a part of the style and not often overused.

    As said, avoid the Dream Quest book. There are a couple alright stories and ideas there, but it's not horror and is mostly long winded and pointless fantasy.

    There's a whole lot of the expanded mythos that sucks balls, but a few of stories are good. "Strange Eons" by Robert Bloch was fun to read, it being sort of an ending to the whole Cthulhu cycle.

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  • RubberACRubberAC Sidney BC!Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    When you're at work, you can work on these http://www.dagonbytes.com/thelibrary/lovecraft/index.html

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  • leafleaf Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    There's a bit of controversy over the property rights to the lovecraft stories, a lot of which say it's public domain while one publisher thinks its theirs. Either way there's a huge repository online, and the entire collection in pdf you can find.

    I've tried looking around and there's no definitive answer I could find, so I may be wrong in the public domain thing.

    I'm still going through the entire collection, and man I can only handle a story or two every day, otherwise I get way too creeped out. The Colour of Outer Space, The Whisperer in Darkness, Call of Cthulhu. The Rats in the Walls was also particularily amazing.

    I love how lovecraft actually had a cat named Niggerman.

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  • XagarathXagarath Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    leaf wrote: »

    I love how lovecraft actually had a cat named ______
    I think that... might be against forum rules, isn't it? Unsure.

    Lovecraft had one because he was a real actual racist, anyway. Good writer aside from that, but...

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  • GrennGrenn Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    The HP Lovecraft Historical society have made some radio drama style versions of some of the most notorious stories from the Cthulhu mythos.

    http://www.cthulhulives.org/

    I like the dramatisations a lot, they really capture the spirit and eerieness of the stories. A good introduction to Lovecraft and even better if you're already a fan of the books.

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  • FandyienFandyien But Otto, what about us? Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Xagarath wrote: »
    leaf wrote: »

    I love how lovecraft actually had a cat named ______
    I think that... might be against forum rules, isn't it? Unsure.

    Lovecraft had one because he was a real actual racist, anyway. Good writer aside from that, but...

    As an interesting aside, Lovecraft took his racism well above and beyond the 'product of the times' sort of racial attitude. In some of his personal correspondence and a few semi-academic pieces he insinuates or outright says that "negroes are a lesser race of mudmen", or something to that effect.

    I don't particularly care given how awesome is writing is, but bearing that in mind while you read some of his stuff can be a neat way to gain a more broad understanding of his work.

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  • leafleaf Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Well, if I get banned or infracted I think that would be quite sad for merely pointing out something true yet inappropriately funny, and why a 'character' was a central part in one of his stories. Yes the cat does figure into The Rats in the Walls fairly prominently.
    The reasoning for the name as far as I can tell, is that while animals eschew and hate the old ones, the cats name is directly representational of how badly it tries to return to the underground area of the castle, and why it darts directly inside as soon as it can. It's part of his recurring theme in any of his novels where people of colour, the 'lesser' races he describes multiple times such as in Dagon, are closer to the earth than their white european counterparts. So much so that they are less able to reason, and do not experience the same sort of horror, dread, or mind numbing insanity which every single one of our white protagonists experience upon uncovering the events in their stories.

    It's also no secret that he was pretty harshly racist. I mean who couldn't infer that from his writing, with constant mentions of the more amicable and trustworthy characters being of proper upbringing and of established breeding being of a light complexion, while he continually associates the most evil, sinister, and uneducated humans in his stories as being blacks, natives, and hispanics.

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  • BedlamBedlam Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    http://terror.snm-hgkz.ch/lovecraft/html/

    Is much cleaner and easier to read then that dagon site thats been linked.

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  • naporeonnaporeon Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Xagarath wrote: »
    leaf wrote: »

    I love how lovecraft actually had a cat named ______
    I think that... might be against forum rules, isn't it? Unsure.

    Lovecraft had one because he was a real actual racist, anyway. Good writer aside from that, but...
    He repented of it well before he died.

    It's very amusing, too, considering his wife was Jewish.

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  • DrFrylockDrFrylock Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    For a little bit of fun, here's an unorthodox one for you.

    For those of you who missed it: yes, the Ghostbusters did fight Cthulhu. Yes, there were octopus-headed cultists chanting "Ia! Ia! Cthulhu f'thagn!" on a children's animated show. Yes, it was awesome.

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