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Rock n Roll gunna change the world

SamSam Registered User regular
edited November 2008 in Debate and/or Discourse
Being of Indian (south asian) descent, I've always been embarassed for the cultural backwater the country has been. Yes, it has a rich and ancient culture; the problem is with the contemporary development and furtherment thereof. The Western world has Paris Hilton, Auto-Tune singers and bands like The Frey but they are a worthy price to pay for a culture that fosters anything of the kind at all. Individualistic artistic expression simply didn't seem to be valued by society, and it could be argued this is true of all nonJapan Asia.

So imagine my surprise when I found this on YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9BgnBy2F7Q&feature=related

A band called Avial.

Yes it's pretty derivative, and as someone who sees Radiohead as a musical benchmark this is hardly groundbreaking, but it's real Indian Rock, not just one of the two but both.

This gives me a lot of hope Asia. Maybe we'll even get a generation gap!

if you like the songs, the album is on iTunes. It's somewhat amateurish but really tasteful compared to other Indian rock that I've come across (i.e glorified bar bands/garage metalheads)
I honestly see it as a pretty huge leap for a culture whose music has basically been trashy film songs sung by playback singers or centuries old classical music with a strict adherence to canonical format.

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  • Andrew_JayAndrew_Jay Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
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    That's pretty cool.

    I remember back during the Olympics the CBC doing a story on the Chinese punk scene.

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  • QinguQingu Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    India may not have given the world Rock and Roll.

    But I credit India with giving the world something equally important: ridiculously over-the-top magic battles involving sorcerous archery, shape-shifting demons, nuclear explosions, and giant monkeys who pick up mountains and literally hurl them across the sea.

    Were it not for India's cultural contributions, we would certainly not have Dragonball Z, let alone the final boss magic attack animations in Final Fantasy games.

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  • ScalfinScalfin __BANNED USERS regular
    edited November 2008
    I've never heard Indian rock, but I just assumed the country had moved on to rap, which it seems to pump out a fair amount of.

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  • DocDoc Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2008
    I like Bollywood - it's a legit cultural/musical thing. Mostly.

    Thriller

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  • AlexanderAlexander Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Thats not bad.

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  • FeralFeral MEMETICHARIZARD interior crocodile alligator ⇔ ǝɹʇɐǝɥʇ ǝᴉʌoɯ ʇǝloɹʌǝɥɔ ɐ ǝʌᴉɹp ᴉRegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Okay, so I'm taking time off from the forums because I've been spending too much time here, but I just wanted to briefly respond to this.
    Sam wrote: »
    I honestly see it as a pretty huge leap for a culture whose music has basically been trashy film songs sung by playback singers or centuries old classical music with a strict adherence to canonical format.

    India has had a thriving electronic music community for about twenty years now, stimulated by opposite forces of emigration and immigration. You have European DJs going to India to vacation or live for cheap (see: Goa trance), and second generation Punjabi growing up in Europe and bringing subcontinental sounds with them (see: Punjabi MC, Talvin Singh, and Iknowhe'sAlgerianokayjustgivemeabreak Cheb i Sabbah). I don't think it's coincidental that the first two names I mentioned are punjabi; there's a lot of cultural parallels between the hip-hop influence on EDM and Bhangra - both are based in popular folk forms of music with traditional percussion instruments and lots of community participation - so it's not surprising that they'd fuse. (And your generalization doesn't really describe bhangra at all, which makes me wonder if you're just not including the Punjabi in your overall assessment of Indian musical culture.)

    Anyway, carry on, I gotta get back to work.

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    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
  • BubbaTBubbaT Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Wait, why is Japan excepted? They put out just as much market-researched generic pop as any other nation in the continent, if not lots more.

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  • Wonder_HippieWonder_Hippie __BANNED USERS regular
    edited November 2008
    Holy shit it's Feral.

    Anyways, this is entirely Western music with Indian lyrics, and completely leaves out the reasons I listen to India music: namely, the scale they use that isn't comparable to the Western 12-note scale, and tabla drums. It wasn't terrible, but I'd rather hear an evolution of traditional Indian music than this.

    Then again, that might just be my massive stiffy for Anoushka Shankar talking.

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I've always been embarassed for the cultural backwater the country has been

    That's funny - I'm a little bit embarassed that America is severely lacking in culture.

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  • jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I've always been embarassed for the cultural backwater the country has been

    That's funny - I'm a little bit embarassed that America is severely lacking in culture.

    Really?

    Sure our pop culture is kinda egh... it's our biggest export... but really? We have fantastic music, movies, art... sure our architecture has been lacking the past few decades...

    America is no culture slouch.

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I've always been embarassed for the cultural backwater the country has been

    That's funny - I'm a little bit embarassed that America is severely lacking in culture.

    Really?

    Sure our pop culture is kinda egh... it's our biggest export... but really? We have fantastic music, movies, art... sure our architecture has been lacking the past few decades...

    America is no culture slouch.

    Maybe I just don't identify with it. There's no ties with America's founding anymore, really. Paris Hilton and Jay-Z are not my idea of culture. Food and tradition are, though.

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  • Ethan SmithEthan Smith Origin name: Beart4to Arlington, VARegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I feel that there was a specific time during the 50's when the "Old American" culture (which reading The 42nd Parallel would probably show you) to this "New American" culture, which is less Scotch-Irish/British, and more about taking in all of the cultures of everywhere in the world and finding a way to allow all of them.

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