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2012: A soon to be outdated movie?
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Set for release in 2009 and directed by Roland Emmerich (creator of the scientifically accurate "The Day after Tomorrow" and "Independence Day", 2012 is going to have something to do with all that mayan calendar nonsense.
According to IMDB, the plot is as follows:
With the Mayan calendar ending in 2012, a large group of people must deal with natural disasters such as volcanic eruptions, typhoons and glaciers.
If that wasn't ambiguously vague enough, somehow they're going to work John Cusack and Amanda Peet (<3) into it.
In what must boil down to the studios trying to capitalize on all of those 2012 doomsday scenarios, I figured it would be interesting to host a discusson on the so called "science" behind some of the theories out there. I still have friends who try to convince me of a half-baked theory of the earth's polarity flipping or what not. Admittedly, I'm not a scientist, but the limited "research" I've done on the internet seems to turn up nothing but pseudoscience and pages that look like they were made in 1998.
So is that all this is? Rampant conspiracy bullshit? Or by some off chance is there something I'm missing.
Set for release in 2009 and directed by Roland Emmerich (creator of the scientifically accurate "The Day after Tomorrow" and "Independence Day", 2012 is going to have something to do with all that mayan calendar nonsense.
According to IMDB, the plot is as follows:
With the Mayan calendar ending in 2012, a large group of people must deal with natural disasters such as volcanic eruptions, typhoons and glaciers.
If that wasn't ambiguously vague enough, somehow they're going to work John Cusack and Amanda Peet (<3) into it.
In what must boil down to the studios trying to capitalize on all of those 2012 doomsday scenarios, I figured it would be interesting to host a discusson on the so called "science" behind some of the theories out there. I still have friends who try to convince me of a half-baked theory of the earth's polarity flipping or what not. Admittedly, I'm not a scientist, but the limited "research" I've done on the internet seems to turn up nothing but pseudoscience and pages that look like they were made in 1998.
So is that all this is? Rampant conspiracy bullshit? Or by some off chance is there something I'm missing.
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If it works like a magnet, then its just a matter of any charged particles aligning in the same direction, which then projects a larger field than the individual charged particle could produce. I would think that the entire Earth having these fields active, would mean that the fields would become stronger(due to more and more particles aligning themselves with the already dominent polarization), not weaker, and definately not do something completely out of left field like flip polarity.
I could imagine some doomsday cult believing that by 2012 the Earths magnetic field becomes strong enough to pull down the moon, ala the Time Machine.
But frankly, at the rate we our polluting our planet, and making the Earths oceans too acidic to support the marine life we have currently, and taking out the ocean would have far reaching consequences on all the Earths ecosystems. I dont think we have anything thats a greater concern than air/water pollution.
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It's complete bunk. The world could end in a thousand different ways, for a thousand different reasons. Because some Mayan scribe got writer's cramp is not one of them.
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This. The Mayan calendar is cyclical. 2012 is the end of a cycle, not the world.
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I wonder what would happen if we won the shit-lottery and had a massive solar flare and/or Coronal Mass Ejection at the same time as the magnetosphere was mid-reversal?
Oh, and yeah, the Mayan calendar thing is a bunch of nonsense.
So, if I was a Mayan, I'd probably chuck the mother of all New Years' parties. But I'm not.
We have more to worry about from the Y2K38 problem. There's a long time to go before it will become an issue, but there's a good chance there will still be old software lurking around when it starts to manifest itself, and I doubt there will be a concerted effort to fix the problem because many people now believe that "Y2K" was a hoax or was overrated (rather than the reality, which is that the hype surrounding the issue was the reason why everyone got their software audited and fixed - it would have been a real issue otherwise).
Let's see someone make a movie about that instead. It would be great... "Oh no, Unix time is about to overrun the bounds of a signed 32 bit integer. We have only 24 hours to audit this software and fix it before time goes negative!". I'd cast Bruce Willis as our valiant coder.
No, no, no. Bruce Willis is the father of our young, renegade coder's new girlfriend. Only after he's recruited by the FBI do we learn that he's also in charge of the project, and doesn't like this new, authority flaunting style of coding. Fortunately, they manage to bond through a series of harrowing incidents and work together to complete the project just in time. Keanu Reeves and Jessica Alba for the other roles.
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i mean there are tons of movies out there that are decent but based more on magic than science *cough* day after tomorrow *cough*
and the ones that are utter crap and based around retarded voodoo *cough* the core *cough*
i mean, sure the world isnt actually gonna end, but i think they knew that. hell there wouldnt be much of a reason to make a movie about the end of the world if you thought the world was actually going to end.
You can't have a disaster movie without that.
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Um, not to sound stupid (:looks down) , but is that true?
They are gonna screw this up with some kinda story, and dialogue and probably a romantic subplot or some kind of thing where the gruff father proves how much he really loves his son or a dog manages to surf its way to safety. But I would happily watch an hour and a half of a nicely CGI'ed tidal wave travelling the globe just smashing shit up.
Oh fuck yes. The day they make a disaster movie without romance or even a hero, I will be a happy person.
To cover the highest elevation region of the planet? Maybe if you took it all out and dumped it right there on that spot. It'd wash away again pretty quickly though.
The Tibetan Plateau, implied by the mountains and monks, is on average 4 and a half miles above sea level on average and at the centre of a continental mass. If its being flooded it means everything else on earth is probably already under the waves, even if you melt all the icecaps your only going to get a rise of a few hundred metres.
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you both assume that the ocean floor did not suddenly and inexplicably raise up all around the world. that would make the amount of water plausible.
however giant tidal waves from a large asteroid impact are also possible but then again you may get a really big wave at the coast but its unlikely to reach tibet and stay the same height
How would any part of the ocean floor rise in a way that doesn't send another part of it down?
Not "Mayan."
Also, I for one am glad that doomsday cultists are becoming more ecumenical. It was boring when it was all people bitching about Revelation and shit.
dude, how can you jump start the earth's core with nuclear warheads?
don't look at me to explain how disaster movies make themselves plausible. they do try though.
They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
Although it IS an election year. OMG HOW DID THEY KNOW?
Ah Puch for '12? For if you thought Obama had an unfortunate rhyme...
If it was actually like the lines in the trailer said and about truth and hiding facts for public safety and all those other things I'd like it a lot better than OHNOES WORLD IS COMING TO AN END WILL DENNIS QUAID SAVE THE DAY!? Yes. Yes he will.
My god man do you think there are any Mayan calendarists left?!?!? There is not going to be a new calendar because the Mayan calendar makers are ALL LONG DEAD. Hence the world will end. QED.
I'm assuming the trailer isn't a trailer so much as a teaser that's leading people to viral marketing websites.
What if all the stupid conspiracy theories for years were just viral marketing?
Or "The Passion," for that matter.
They've done this. It's called Destroyed In Seconds. It's pretty rad, if you're into random destruction.
Summon the spirit of Philip K. Dick. Time travelling film marketers crafting all the world's religions and literature would make a great PKD story.
Actually, it's beyond very possible - it's a factual certainty. The poles flip very often (geologically speaking). Now, the last time was before recorded history, but I do believe we're overdue for one.
The core of the earth is what produces the electro-magnetic field, and it's a hell of a lot more complicated than a simple magnet.
God, that trailer was hilarious.
Also according to wikipedia - Danny Glover plays the president.
Edit: Scratch that, that much water probably doesn't exist on the planet.
But considering the gravitational pull necessary to do that, those monks should probably be more worried about being pulled up into space than drowning.