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Hemp - Destroyer of lumber, fuckerupper of cotton?
jungleroomx
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So, with the weed legalization thread going it seems like a natural offshoot to bring this up before it gets brought up over there.
Cotton and wood-for-paper industries are huge in the USA. They're also pretty environmentally detrimental, and in this time of easier industries that we need to stay here and green solutions, it almost seems like a "no duh" situation to bring industrial hemp out for both paper and cloth needs.
While I'm advocating the eradication of the current paper industry, I do feel that a cotton industry still may have some validity, although it's quite overblown at this stage of the game. I think the US could benefit from a huge shift in new industries, especially since hemp is radically cheaper, much easier to grow, and, really, the products are simply better.
Thoughts on this?
Cotton and wood-for-paper industries are huge in the USA. They're also pretty environmentally detrimental, and in this time of easier industries that we need to stay here and green solutions, it almost seems like a "no duh" situation to bring industrial hemp out for both paper and cloth needs.
While I'm advocating the eradication of the current paper industry, I do feel that a cotton industry still may have some validity, although it's quite overblown at this stage of the game. I think the US could benefit from a huge shift in new industries, especially since hemp is radically cheaper, much easier to grow, and, really, the products are simply better.
Thoughts on this?
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Hemp starch plastics are an alternative to our current plastics yes, and they are apparently cleaner to produce.
It gets much softer when you wash it. I've made hemp necklaces before, and they're nearly unbearable until you take a shower with it on and it relaxes. The fibers contract somewhat when wet, then when they dry they are more willing to be in the shape they were in during this process.
Is it permanently softer, or is it just softer while wet? Plus, how durable compared to cotton is it?
Edit: @Cinders: My stuff always stayed soft.
I'd assume that if it were to see wide spread use, hemp clothes would most likely be washed a few times before being sold.
1) This thread is woefully lacking in specifics. That we can make a shampoo bottle out of hemp is completely different depending on how much that increases the price. So far nothing in this thread has indicated any of these are economical processes.
2) Plastics: Polylactide acid (PLA) bioplastics were just starting to switch over to viable aside from recycling issues but that was before the price of oil cratered. A quick google didn't indicate anything on what "hemp plastic" was exactly but it's got a tough battle to compete with PLA which is usable in the current equipment without significant retooling in process or machinery. Sadly corn (and sugar cane) might once again be the leaders in "green" technology.
Is corn as bad for plastic as it is for energy?
In other news, at least one person is proposing that we try to bring back a plant that turns greenhouse gasses into petroleum.
Is there an unbiased source that doesn't slobber on hemp's dong?
Any idea what that plant is?
They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
I did a bit of light Googling. The Wikipedia page is laughably full of [citation needed]'s, and the first site I came to with the data you're looking for was some hemp producers' association, which I would assume has the same bias as any producers' association. I did, however, come across a fascinating quote.
Regardless of the genetics involved, this is an accurate description. Growers of potent marijuana always kill the male plants, both because they are not good to smoke and because if left unpollinated the females will not produce seeds, which makes for a more high-end product.
I never asked for this!
Well, that's likely half true actually.
I never asked for this!
Iirc, the original lobby against hemp was by Dupont, a synthetic fiber company. So there you go. Petrol- and corn-based industries have more money than God, and certainly more money then the world's hemp farmers. That, coupled with the common association of hemp with pot...
I'll hemp your pot.
This is true to a large degree, though hemp cultivation and processing is still something best done at scale, and I can't imagine how it would be done in a home. This isn't a pot plant that can be two feet tall and needs only produce an ounce or two of buds. Not to mention turning the hemp plants into usable fiber or what have you.
You expect an agency that gets billions of dollars out of the federal budget every year for the express purpose of keeping illegal substances illegal to close up shop?