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Life Insurance: I need it

CrashtardCrashtard Registered User regular
edited November 2008 in Help / Advice Forum
I'm getting married in January, and having accrued about 30 grand in student loan debt I thought that I should get some life insurance in case of my untimely demise. There are a lot of companies out there, and I wanted to see if any of you are dealing with any and what your experience with them has been. I don't need much, probably 75-100 thousand would be lots.

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Your school loans get abolished if you die.

    The rest of stuff gets weighed against by your estate, and I think loans/debt only apply to your S/O if she's cosigned on them. A lawyer would be able to tell you better.

    So if you have $40,000 in loans and you have an estate of $35,000 -- $5,000 of that just gets absorbed by the company and really can't be claimed by your family (unless you're in one of those shared equity states where they let it go after your S/O). Again, a lawyer would probably be able to tell you more.

    CoJo is probably the best guy to give advice here. Hopefully he shows up. :wink:

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  • CrashtardCrashtard Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I guess I need to find my paperwork from Key bank and see what it has to say about my death, but it sounds like I don't need to worry quite as much as I was. I guess if I have the insurance she can just party hard!

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  • TopweaselTopweasel Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    mcdermott wrote: »
    Crashtard wrote: »
    I guess I need to find my paperwork from Key bank and see what it has to say about my death, but it sounds like I don't need to worry quite as much as I was. I guess if I have the insurance she can just party hard!

    Well, that and the fact that she'll probably want to take a bit of time off and your SS survivor's benefits (do spouses even get those? or just kids?) probably won't do the trick.

    Well I am sure Bob from accounting will help her with all of her needs after the op dies.

    Seriously though I would also check with work or health care some of them actually insure you for a certain amount. I know I signed over something to my sister (only person in my family who may "need" help even if she is actually the most financially responsible.

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  • 1ddqd1ddqd Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Life insurance helps pay for the funeral expenses too. Watch the Penn and Teller's Bullshit episode on Funerals. I mean, if you really want one, make a plan, but that episode is really handy for the uninformed.

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  • SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Are you sure your work doesn't offer life insurance as part of your benefits plan? You should check, because it is really cheap that way.

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  • kaliyamakaliyama Left to find less-moderated fora Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Federal student loans are dischargable upon death and unless someone else has cosigned a loan, creditors can't pursue your heirs or anyone else for the debt, though they could eat up your estate. [edit: i'm an idiot, seeing as i took t&e like a year ago]

    Life insurance proceeds are owed to the beneficiary, and usually aren't part of the deceased's estate as a result. I'm not sure what the effect of joint savings/life insurance plans ("term life insurance") are in terms of how the "savings" portion is disposed of.

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  • CrashtardCrashtard Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    mcdermott wrote: »
    Crashtard wrote: »
    I guess I need to find my paperwork from Key bank and see what it has to say about my death, but it sounds like I don't need to worry quite as much as I was. I guess if I have the insurance she can just party hard!

    Well, that and the fact that she'll probably want to take a bit of time off and your SS survivor's benefits (do spouses even get those? or just kids?) probably won't do the trick.

    At 26 I'm assuming that any money I pay into SS is simply money that's gone forever. I figure 100k in insurance ought to cover everything and give her enough to take some time off. I'm also planning on not dying, so hopefully it's not a problem.

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  • HevachHevach Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    1ddqd wrote: »
    Life insurance helps pay for the funeral expenses too. Watch the Penn and Teller's Bullshit episode on Funerals. I mean, if you really want one, make a plan, but that episode is really handy for the uninformed.

    One catch with this: A common clause in wills and testamentary trusts actually states that the personal representative/trustee can't require the beneficiary to use the life insurance to pay final expenses, in which cases the estate can be required to reimburse that money if it is used - in some states, the representative/trustee can be held responsible. Also, in some states, if the estate can cover the funeral cost, the beneficiary is entitled to keep the insurance unless the will states it has to be used.

    If you don't have a will, get one written up, even if you don't have anything worth leaving. You can include things you don't own in your will with statements such as "any real estate I own at the time of my death," which can prevent you having to rewrite it when you buy a house. Estate planners often charge about $200 for this, but if you have a lawyer write it up, read the entire text in careful detail before you sign it and avoid pitfalls like what I listed above in regards to life insurance.

    Edit: MAKE SURE to get whole life coverage at your age. You probably don't need $100k worth, a cheap funeral will run about $5000, but allow more for possible medical expenses at least - together, my parents' funerals totaled about $15k last year. You can buy a casket, vault, and cemetery plot years ahead of time and eliminate a lot of hassle for your family, as well as save a good bit of money, but unless you're reasonably sure you'll be living in state the rest of your life, I'd leave that alone for now. You can even get a family headstone engraved with your name and birth year, and add your children as they're born if you want to be a bit morbid about things.

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  • CrashtardCrashtard Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Sentry wrote: »
    Are you sure your work doesn't offer life insurance as part of your benefits plan? You should check, because it is really cheap that way.

    At the place I work right now I have no benefits whatsover besides a 401k. I'm moving to the D.C. area in January, and probably when I get a job there the benefits will be much better. I'm in Michigan right now, and benefits are usually the first thing to go.
    One catch with this: A common clause in wills and testamentary trusts actually states that the personal representative/trustee can't require the beneficiary to use the life insurance to pay final expenses, in which cases the estate can be required to reimburse that money if it is used - in some states, the representative/trustee can be held responsible. Also, in some states, if the estate can cover the funeral cost, the beneficiary is entitled to keep the insurance unless the will states it has to be used.

    I'm not too worried about this. She would be the sole beneficiary and trustee, but it's certainly good information to have.

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  • SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Crashtard wrote: »
    Sentry wrote: »
    Are you sure your work doesn't offer life insurance as part of your benefits plan? You should check, because it is really cheap that way.

    At the place I work right now I have no benefits whatsover besides a 401k. I'm moving to the D.C. area in January, and probably when I get a job there the benefits will be much better. I'm in Michigan right now, and benefits are usually the first thing to go.

    gah... definitely check with your new job then. I think I can get about 200k life insurance for about 5 bucks a month or so. However, since I will never die, I see no need to put in the outlay for that.

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  • Modern ManModern Man Registered User regular
    Since you're only 26, you shouldn't worry about getting life insurance. At your age, life insurance is a pretty bad investment. You'd be better off just taking the money you'd be paying for insurance and putting it into a 401(k) or other savings.

    Basically, at your age, the chances of you dying are really low (assuming you don't have any health issues or work in a dangerous job). Life insurance is a waste of money at this point.

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  • ZombieMattZombieMatt Registered User new member
    Modern Man wrote:
    Since you're only 26, you shouldn't worry about getting life insurance. At your age, life insurance is a pretty bad investment. You'd be better off just taking the money you'd be paying for insurance and putting it into a 401(k) or other savings.

    Basically, at your age, the chances of you dying are really low (assuming you don't have any health issues or work in a dangerous job). Life insurance is a waste of money at this point.

    Not necessarily true -- everyone's situation is different. My wife and I preferred to get term life insurance now, while we're young, and have debt that needs to be paid off if one of us die (mortgage, car, etc). When the term is up in 25 years, we'll have paid off most if not all of our debt, and will have had time to build up a nest egg and an emergency fund, making life insurance relatively moot. Everyone's gonna die (except Sentry, apparently). If you die tomorrow, you want insurance. If you die later, once you've had time in your life to build up some cash, it's not necessarily as important.

    Talk to your fiancee, and figure out what makes sense for your particular situation.

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