Borat: Most Explosive Movie Of The Decade?

BlackDog85

Should be seeing it tonight with a group of friends. Can't wait.

HiredGun

entropykid wrote:

The funny thing is Sascha Baron Cohen is half Jewish and half Iranian(Persian)

Actually, he's half Iranian and half Welsh. Both of his parents are Jewish.

Coldred

HiredGun wrote:

entropykid wrote:

The funny thing is Sascha Baron Cohen is half Jewish and half Iranian(Persian)

Actually, he's half Iranian and half Welsh. Both of his parents are Jewish.

Welsh and a Tab, poor guy.

j3551c4

I thought the name Sascha was Russian?

Carl with a K

now all we need is a bruno movie

Kusuguttai

j3551c4 wrote:

I thought the name Sascha was Russian?

Name origin does not dictate nationality.

Al_wat

I wonder why so few theatres are playing it (its not even playing in my city). Too controversial? Too underestimated?

I just want to see the damn thing.

Vorus

Just wanted to point out that, in Canada, th movie is only 14A. And we gotta keep all the scenes. (even that one)

mantis23

Al_wat wrote:

I wonder why so few theatres are playing it (its not even playing in my city). Too controversial? Too underestimated?

I just want to see the damn thing.

Fox wasn't sure the movie would connect with middle america so they gave it a tiered release. 800 theaters the week. 2200 theaters next week. so anyone that doesnt have a theater near them showing it....just wait a week.

also, it looks like Borat will be the #1 movie this weekend even with only 800 screens showing it. The #2 movie is Santa Clause 3 and it is on 3200+ screens.

Al_wat

mantis23 wrote:

Al_wat wrote:

I wonder why so few theatres are playing it (its not even playing in my city). Too controversial? Too underestimated?

I just want to see the damn thing.

Fox wasn't sure the movie would connect with middle america so they gave it a tiered release. 800 theaters the week. 2200 theaters next week. so anyone that doesnt have a theater near them showing it....just wait a week.

Thats what I like to hear.

CptKemzik

Easily the most entertaining and funniest movie that I have seen this year. The ending is pretty much glorious. "That scene" was a bit ridiculous at first, but definately got better at the end.

Kyougu

I seriously can't remember the last movie where everyone in a packed theatre was so into it. Stupid town only had 3 night showings, but my group was lucky enough to make into one.
The movie is just glorious. So many lines, and so many moments of "No way. He's not going to say that..he just did!"

And yeah, the "scene" is hilarious. But for my money, I laughed the most at the bed and breakfast part. Just so funny.

[spoiler:346e64f0aa]When he thinks the jewish couple shapeshifted into cockoraches and they started to throw money at them[/spoiler:346e64f0aa]

Variable

watching him in interviews and specifically on SNL in the weeks leading up to the movie got me nervous, because he started playing Borat the character, instead of being Borat the person... the jokes were different.

This movie was not like that though. It was perfect.

I also like seeing it in a place like Jersey because no one was offended, and mostly I'm sure they agreed with the points being made by people just being their stupid selves.

Variable

Nexus Zero wrote:

Hmm. I loved the film, but the question of which bits were real and which bits were fake is really bugging me.

the point is that it's real. Things with just him and his producer were obviously just for us, but anything else was real.

if anything wasn't real I'd be sorely dissapointed.

I can't believe the [spoiler:f661e7ac0a]Pamela Anderson[/spoiler:f661e7ac0a] thing was not ALL OVER THE PLACE.

Kazhiim

From what I've read, the only person other than Borat and the film crew that was "in on it" was the prostitute

OneEyedJack

Kazhiim wrote:

From what I've read, the only person other than Borat and the film crew that was "in on it" was the prostitute

Pam had to be in on it. Not the security, or anyone else there...but otherwise it would have been all over the place and charges would have been brought against him...it would have been a mess.

Zsetrek

OneEyedJack wrote:

Kazhiim wrote:

From what I've read, the only person other than Borat and the film crew that was "in on it" was the prostitute

Pam had to be in on it. Not the security, or anyone else there...but otherwise it would have been all over the place and charges would have been brought against him...it would have been a mess.

IIRC, she wasn't.

Joseph Stalin

matt7718 wrote:

KalTorak wrote:

I wonder how much the people in the movie knew about it, even afterwards. I mean, I'm pretty sure you need some kind of permission to put people in a movie - but the title of the movie is congruous with the character so theoretically they could get people to sign papers that give permission and still give them the impression that it's just for a documentary that'll be shown back in Kazakhstan. I don't really know much about the process.

HE gave them the impression that he was a kazakh journalist, they signed the release, which was probably difficult to read and kinda rushed at them at the end, and they signed it thinking they were going to be on a news show halfway across the world is some bumfuck country they had never heard of.

I actually talked to the director about this. They basically told them the whoel pitch about him making a documentary for Kazakhistan, etc. and had them sign the release. They made the release really long - long enough that no one would read through the whole thing. Buried towards the end was a passage that stipulated that they could do whatever they wanted to the signer. End result is that they got away with everything and there was not one arrest. They did come close a few times, however.

Recoil42

j3551c4 wrote:

I thought the name Sacha was Russian?

Yes. Yes it is. Translates, literally, to Alexander.



<-- Also named Sacha.


<-- Like Cohen, also half Persian, the other half being french-canadian.



Origin of name != origin of blood. Some people just have weird/creative parents.

Vanilla Coke

I love how the [spoiler:ecff67c6dc]stuff with the ice cream truck[/spoiler:ecff67c6dc] was pulled off PERFECTLY.

Hacksaw

Recoil42 wrote:

j3551c4 wrote:

I thought the name Sacha was Russian?

Yes. Yes it is. Translates, literally, to Alexander.



<-- Also named Sacha.


<-- Like Cohen, also half Persian, the other half being french-canadian.



Origin of name != origin of blood. Some people just have weird/creative parents.

I can attest to this; I have a friend who is half German, half Filipino, and has a French first name, while his brother has a Russian first name. Creative parents indeed.

Gigaton

I just saw this yesterday and LOVED it. Quite possibly the funniest movie I've ever seen. I live in Pennsylvania and in what I consider to be a relatively conservative small city.

#1- The theater was PACKED and they kept selling tickets even after the show should have been sold out.

#2- Every single person in the theater was laughing hysterically (including me) at what most would consider the "offensive" parts. I think the audience I was with was just more open minded than most of the people in my city.

randombattle

Gigaton wrote:

#2- Every single person in the theater was laughing hysterically (including me) at what most would consider the "offensive" parts. I think the audience I was with was just more open minded than most of the people in my city.

Really I just think people are smart enough to realize a movie subtitled "Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan" just might not be a serious movie with a message. :P

bone daddy

Vanilla Coke wrote:

I love how the [spoiler:6f36856b0d]stuff with the ice cream truck[/spoiler:6f36856b0d] was pulled off PERFECTLY.

The bit with [spoiler:6f36856b0d]the bear popping out instead of an ice cream dude and scaring the shit out of the kids[/spoiler:6f36856b0d] was probably the hardest I have laughed in a very long time. I now want [spoiler:6f36856b0d]an ice cream truck with a brown bear hanging out of it[/spoiler:6f36856b0d] of my own.

j3551c4 wrote:

I thought the name Sascha was Russian?

In addition to it possibly having been random, there's also the chance he has a great-grandfather or grandfather from eastern Europe and was named for him. Many of those countries' pre-communist governments did not treat their Jewish populations well at all; Jewish emigration for more tolerant countries was not exactly unheard of.

BlackDog85

So, went for the 9pm showing...it sold out three hours earlier. Jesus fucking Christ, I hate movie theaters.

Irond Will

Just got back from the showing in Harvard Square. Was sold out, and the audience seemed really into it.

[spoiler:823ef9fd25]The scene with the fratboys talking about how minorities "have it made" and all of that, the theater was dead silent[/spoiler:823ef9fd25]

KalTorak

Irond Will wrote:

Just got back from the showing in Harvard Square. Was sold out, and the audience seemed really into it.

[spoiler:36c60b786a]The scene with the fratboys talking about how minorities "have it made" and all of that, the theater was dead silent[/spoiler:36c60b786a]

HAha same here. I loved it.

Kusuguttai

The rodeo guy scared me.
He actually made me frightened.

Gigaton

KalTorak wrote:

Irond Will wrote:

Just got back from the showing in Harvard Square. Was sold out, and the audience seemed really into it.

[spoiler:8bb1c3868a]The scene with the fratboys talking about how minorities "have it made" and all of that, the theater was dead silent[/spoiler:8bb1c3868a]

HAha same here. I loved it.

Yup, happened in my theater too. I guess it's just less funny when someone says something discriminatory and they're completely serious about it. (Same with the rodeo guy, he somewhat pissed me off)

Shurakai

Just downloaded the soundtrack.

$10 of awesome.

Gotcha Force

Irond Will wrote:

Just got back from the showing in Harvard Square. Was sold out, and the audience seemed really into it.

[spoiler:0e0bdfa75e]The scene with the fratboys talking about how minorities "have it made" and all of that, the theater was dead silent[/spoiler:0e0bdfa75e]

our theater was pretty much filled with confusion.. "is that guy REALLY drunk or is he just retarded?"

[spoiler:0e0bdfa75e]also the part with the "wish there were slaves" and the russian women and shit.. fucking them and like NOT CALLING THEM, MAN!!!!!!!!!!!! dear god that guy is hopefully going to drive off a cliff one day[/spoiler:0e0bdfa75e]

Gim

The Abortion Kusu wrote:

The rodeo guy scared me.
He actually made me frightened.

He might just be the most evil person in the film. I still wonder how they got the horse to fall over.

entropykid

Variable wrote:

watching him in interviews and specifically on SNL in the weeks leading up to the movie got me nervous, because he started playing Borat the character, instead of being Borat the person... the jokes were different.

This movie was not like that though. It was perfect.

I also like seeing it in a place like Jersey because no one was offended, and mostly I'm sure they agreed with the points being made by people just being their stupid selves.

You touch upon something interesting...

in his promotion this summer/fall of Borat, Sascha Cohen has been going thru the motions of Borat, almost like an impression charade. He's not the likeable Borat. Like the Washington DC stunt, just seemed staged and lame.

In the movie, he is Borat, genuine and likeable amidst his detestable sensibilities. Sadly the character has become just a charictature in the promotional phase.

Deadly Melody wrote:

now all we need is a bruno movie

According to Variety, Universal Pictures appears to be close to signing a $42.5 million deal for worldwide distribution rights to Sacha Baron Cohen's next project, Bruno.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=17256

to me tho, the Bruno character doesnt have many standout angles or laugh out loud chemistry. Of course it'd be hard to make a Borat sequel since everyone would know who he is...hed have to go to like Pashtun tribal regions of Pakistan or something, which would be hillarious.

Anyone seen the Ali G movie from 2002?

12gauge

entropykid wrote:

Variable wrote:

watching him in interviews and specifically on SNL in the weeks leading up to the movie got me nervous, because he started playing Borat the character, instead of being Borat the person... the jokes were different.

This movie was not like that though. It was perfect.

I also like seeing it in a place like Jersey because no one was offended, and mostly I'm sure they agreed with the points being made by people just being their stupid selves.

You touch upon something interesting...

in his promotion this summer/fall of Borat, Sascha Cohen has been going thru the motions of Borat, almost like an impression charade. He's not the likeable Borat. Like the Washington DC stunt, just seemed staged and lame.

In the movie, he is Borat, genuine and likeable amidst his detestable sensibilities. Sadly the character has become just a charictature in the promotional phase.

Deadly Melody wrote:

now all we need is a bruno movie

According to Variety, Universal Pictures appears to be close to signing a $42.5 million deal for worldwide distribution rights to Sacha Baron Cohen's next project, Bruno.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=17256

to me tho, the Bruno character doesnt have many standout angles or laugh out loud chemistry. Of course it'd be hard to make a Borat sequel since everyone would know who he is...hed have to go to like Pashtun tribal regions of Pakistan or something, which would be hillarious.

Anyone seen the Ali G movie from 2002?

The Ali G movie was so bad - and the german dubbing made it even worse.

Variable

I knew I touched on something interesting, Entropy, that's why I said it :-).

I don't care though. He had to do that to get the news out to people not already in the know that he was funny and worth seeing.

So make the character a joke instead of a brilliant creation and work of deception, and then it's easier for people to laugh so they go see the movie.

Mojo_Jojo

Deadly Melody wrote:

now all we need is a bruno movie

We really don't. Saying that though, you're in luck. I read in the paper the other day he'd had a bag of money thrown at him to make such a film.

Fastasaurus_rex

BlackDog85 wrote:

So, went for the 9pm showing...it sold out three hours earlier. Jesus fucking Christ, I hate movie theaters.

You hate theaters because they sold out to maximum capacity...? I dont know about you, But I really cant find fault with theaters for trying to get as many people in to see the movies. Maybe if you were that intent on seeing it you should have gone early and picked up tickets! Are you the same type of person who doesnt preorder games and then gets angry with Retail employees for not having one when you decide to come around to pick it up?

flamebroiledchicken

I loved the movie, but did anyone else get the feeling that a lot of the jokes were making fun of Borat, instead of Borat making fun of Americans?

For example the running of the jew, the bed and breakfast, the naked scene, they were all poking fun at how "backwards" Borat is. For me, that has never been the point of the character. Borat has always been about making other people uncomfortable or getting them to say something shocking. There was a lot of that in the movie, sure, but I wish there had been more of it, and less poking fun at Borat himself.

Still, amazing, hilarious movie.

LondonBridge

Did anybody find this film funnier than Jackass 2?

KalTorak

LondonBridge wrote:

Did anybody find this film funnier than Jackass 2?

Never saw Jackass 2, but my impressions were that it'd be like watching the frat boys from Borat plus random implements for 2 hours.