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Backpacking Europe?

arod_77arod_77 __BANNED USERS regular
edited December 2008 in Help / Advice Forum
My head is full of romantic notions maybe, but I have decided that I need to do something dramatic.

I will have some start up money but I intend to travel leanly and maybe work my way from place to place--I want it to be crappy, dull and hard.

I am virginal and naeve.

What do I need to bring? What is a good jumping off point? What resources might I find in western european countries that I can use and abuse?

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  • VisionOfClarityVisionOfClarity Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    I backpacked through Europe for a month after living in Northern Ireland for 3 and it was the best experience of my life. Forget STA, but get an intl student card from them because they get you good deals, and use studentuniverse.com. I traveled with a friend via train and stayed in the cheapest hostels possible and it cost me maybe $500 for the month for travel and lodging. Look for B&B's to save on a meal and don't be afraid to stay in the co-ed rooms with 12 bunks because it's cheap. As a girl I felt a lil weird doing this as co-ed typically means male (most girls prefer an all-girl room) but it saved me a ton of money. I definitely recommend Prague, I loved that city.

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  • GrizzledGrizzled Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Get a Eurail pass. This lets you travel very flexibly.

    Check out couchsurfing.org

    Make a photocopy of your passport. Keep the real passport someplace safe and use the photocopy as ID. (Of course you will need your real passport, just stash it somewhere so it doesn't get stolen).

    You will have a hard time finding work to make money, there is not nearly as much crappy under the table employment available in Europe as there is in the United States (well, not for backpacking youth anyway). That said, working at bars/clubs and the like, especially in coastal resort areas, is a good place to start.

    That's ok though, because by buying food at grocery stores (or markets) instead of restaurants, staying in dorm hostels like VisionofClarity said and other similar measures you can stretch your money out a lot.

    Prague is indeed very nice and I recommend it too.


    All that being said, if you really want dramatic, may I recommend backpacking South America instead? It is much much cheaper, more dangerous, more strenuous and all around more of an adventure. There is sort of a standard set of routes, but you can get off them in a day or less and find yourself in some really amazing places. Also, the work-to-make-cash as you travel thing is totally feasible there, at least in the big cities.

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  • arod_77arod_77 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2008
    South America has been recommended to me twice.

    Its interesting and I do want to learn the fullness of my Spanish again. (Only spoke it until 7 and now I can understand it perfectly but fail at speaking it)

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  • Golden LegGolden Leg Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Grizzled wrote: »
    All that being said, if you really want dramatic, may I recommend backpacking South America instead? It is much much cheaper, more dangerous, more strenuous and all around more of an adventure. There is sort of a standard set of routes, but you can get off them in a day or less and find yourself in some really amazing places. Also, the work-to-make-cash as you travel thing is totally feasible there, at least in the big cities.

    Haha, this is very true. My experience is limited to living in Mexico and leanly visiting Central America, but if they're any indication South America would be an amazing adventure if you keep your wits about you. That said, you'll never know what you'll run into. The attitude toward gringos varies pretty dramatically.

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  • arod_77arod_77 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2008
    I would be sure to brush up and take an intense spanish course for my speaking before I did it.

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  • desperaterobotsdesperaterobots perth, ausRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    I haven't done this, but I want to, and have had friends recommend Busabout. Some have also recommended against the rail pass, instead suggesting checking for cheap flights on the days you want to leave, because flights around europe can be super cheap and it's nice and quick.

    But yeah, I'm not speaking from experience, just all the hollerin' I hear when I mention I want to do what you want to do.

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  • DaemonionDaemonion Mountain Man USARegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Buying a Eurail pass is a must.

    Having a small multi-language book for tourists is mighty helpful. I used a 4500 cubic centimeter (I think) backpack from Kelly or Keltec, don't remember the name, with those plastic space-saver bags.

    Hostels are your friend. Also, I found that the shittier the hostel, the more beautiful the attendant at the desk (they are usually women, especially in eastern Europe), so keep that in mind.

    I also saved money by bringing along 45 MREs (modern military rations) to have for 1 meal each day. Its a solid 1,500 - 2,000 calories if you eat everything in the package. Since I normally eat at least 4,000cal a day, I knew I would have to have spent a bundle on food while I was there. MREs can be had for $1.50 a piece if you buy in bulk.

    Here was my 45 day itinerary when I went backpacking -

    Berlin, Germany to

    Krakow, Poland to

    Prague, Czech Republic to

    Vienna, Austria to

    Rome, Italy to

    Paris, France to

    London, England


    [edit] The trains are convenient, yes, but I recommend them for the memories you'll get when you are stuck on a shitty fucking train overnight sharing space with strangers. There is nothing like it - it is hot, sweaty, cramped and shitty as balls, but you are all in it together, and gives you a great opportunity to meet people and get tips.

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    I remember going to Europe with a friend, planning to do the whole backpacking thing. I only had a tennis bag and a regular size backpack, and was going to be all zen and stuff going from West to East for a month. Women and tennis, somehow falling ass backwards into millions of Euros so that I never have to work again.

    Then after two or three days, we decided it was better to just have a smaller trip, but one that we would enjoy much more by doing the stuff we wanted to do on a reasonable budget without worrying about penny pinching. We had nice hotels we stayed at, getting great deals because we stayed at business hotels on the weekends when they had no guests. Instead of a month we were there for 20 days. No regrets.

    And we had a great time. Enough that we will probably go back in spring 2009, especially if the Euro and Pound keep falling.

    I know you have this idea of how great it's going to be. But you can't ignore the culture shock that hits you no matter how much you plan for it, or the language barrier and attitudes in certain countries. Add to it the notion of under the table pay is very hard to get in reality (particularly because a lot of Eastern Europeans have already taken those jobs), and I would recommend just saving up, visit 3 or 4 countries, and thoroughly enjoy those places and come back in 2 years.

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  • VisionOfClarityVisionOfClarity Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    TexiKen wrote: »
    But you can't ignore the culture shock that hits you no matter how much you plan for it, or the language barrier and attitudes in certain countries.

    In Munich I came down with a sore throat and had to mime my symptoms to a German pharmacist to get meds. Best damn cough drops ever. No idea what was in them, but they were great.

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