Man, after reading Secret Invasion I got to thinking about how the changes made after Civil War. Aside from The Initiative, the titles that came after didn't really swim around in that new realm of possibility that came with it.
Maybe it's creative differences, or perhaps the flow of the industry that dictated what came about in Secret Invasion.
Publisher to publisher, things seem different. Fuck if I know what Image has going on in its respective universes. From what I gather, Robert Kirkman is sorta propelling things with his "Kirkverse". Spawn and the like, I ain't got a clue
A wise man once said that "It is the bitches, that are the most adverse to change."
What are some of your favorite changes to characters or teams? In the direction of a book, or a publisher? Of the status quo?
One of my favorite changes within Marvel as a publisher was the creation of the Ultimate Universe imprint.I mean, remember when Ultimate X-Men was good, son?
How about you?
Not only was it a dramatic departure for the X-Force book, but it was also an incisive examination of celebrity and the superhero genre.
Something similar happened with New Warriors some years afterwards, but then they got blown up and we went back to no longer having any reality tv superhero teams.
It apparently has a Hank Pym iteration I won't hate because that other douche doesn't count!
I also desire to learn more about what comes after Batman R.I.P. !
I mean, crap...what was that all about?
I don't know what that is.
The roster then was, IIRC, Vision, Crystal, Black Knight, Hercules, Goliath (Clint).
it's pretty easy to see that's not going to happen now
Marvel's Universe never seems to stay the same long enough for people to actually tell stories about it
Tony Stark was director of shield for like what 8 months?
In real time Tony was director for one year and nine months give or take. Comics time, especially Bendis time? Probably less than a year.
Well, I guess you can attribute Brand New Day to it?
The pre-Operation: Galactic Storm roster was Black Knight, Sersi, Crystal, Quicksilver, Hercules and the Vision according to Wikipedia (which is correct as my memory recalls). I don't ever recall there being a "leader" per se. But BK and Herc were bestest buds.
This site lists the roster I last read for many years as Black Knight III, Crystal, Hercules, Sersi, Vision. Thor II (with the beard) and Black Widow left before the last 3-issue arc. I wrote an essay for English class (kind of freeform nonsense we had to write) bitching about why BK was stabbed in the chest (this is when he had basically a light saber) but didn't die.
Ah... Memories. Anyway, what was I saying?
Scarlet Spider clones in the Shadow Initiative.
Hm... I wonder who's going to control them, if anyone.
real world time doesn't mean shit anymore when every story is a six issue arc
Newsarama with Jim McCann on NA: Reunion:
Edit: Never mind, just checked. 1993. Wow.
i would also submit
a good time was had by all.
edit- that's not really true anyways. that series was the groundwork for cyclops and emma as they are today (leading the x-men together), and the concept of a thriving "out" mutant subculture was introduced into the marvel universe (which is now gone for unrelated reasons but could return). for example
basically turned that guy into the solid snake of the marvel universe
52, that book made me care about characters i'd of never invested time in otherwise
i want to learn a lot more about black adam and booster gold, and the justice society
i traded comics with TLB so i could read morrison's Animal Man and was in no way disappointed
seriously, he's tied in to just about every major marvel event and the story hasn't really suffered
also, it was the best post-house of m series because it actually dealt with the fallout in an extremely interesting manner
well, that's not really true, it's just that x-factor was the one good thing that immediately spun out of house of M, the rest of the x-books kind of had a delay before they started telling good stories about the aftermath
and I don't know if generation m was the first comic to feature sally floyd, but it was terrible either way
I meant for Astonishing X-Men.
Yeah, yeah, bad joke, I know.
Seriously, I think Morrison's JLA is far and away the best change to the then-status quo I've ever seen.
oh right, carry on
Nope, that was all pre-House of M
From really lame X-Men ripoff to Dadaist masterpiece in like thirty pages!
And of course the classic example of the change par excellance:
"THE OLD ORDER CHANGETH!"
Also, from what I've read of their early issues through the first Doom Patrol Archive Edition and reprints of early X-Men, Doom Patrol was better from the start.
But in any case, Morrison's reinvention of the team was brilliant.
I don't think there would've ever been a good time for Peter to tell MJ that.
Actually that's not true. The first arcs of Norman's return and his becoming a media darling were excellent. When they brought back Aunt May is when the fun stopped.
Edit: Oh shit.
I should have clarified: the Kupperberg relaunch was an X-Men ripoff. It was done in the vein of that whole 80s-90s angsty strike force thing, and badly.
On the other hand issue 3 did feature a battle inside my favorite hometown shopping mall.
it would explain a lot
the biggest villain spider-man has ever had is aunt may
look at every crossroads spidey comes to
she is always the determining factor in the change of his status quo, and in no way has ever been endearing enough for it to matter each time aside from the classic "spidey is lifting shit off his back" scene
i don't say it in jest
you want a change to pete that'd be for the better?
aunt may biting the big one
he is basically an emotional cripple because of her