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War On Christmas 2008: It Never Ends
AngelHedgie
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War on Christmas.
War on Christmas never changes.
Seriously, this has gone from "mildly amusing" to "somewhat uncomfortable to watch" to "dear God make the stupid stop".
The latest? Billo states that 'secular progressives' want to get rid of Christmas as a federal holiday. No, folks, I can't make this shit up. No matter how hard I tried.
The whole "War on Christmas" thing is yet another attempt by evangelicals to paint themselves as the persecuted. It's gotten to the point that it's now a sight gag on TV. When will the madness end?
War on Christmas never changes.
Seriously, this has gone from "mildly amusing" to "somewhat uncomfortable to watch" to "dear God make the stupid stop".
The latest? Billo states that 'secular progressives' want to get rid of Christmas as a federal holiday. No, folks, I can't make this shit up. No matter how hard I tried.
The whole "War on Christmas" thing is yet another attempt by evangelicals to paint themselves as the persecuted. It's gotten to the point that it's now a sight gag on TV. When will the madness end?
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Oh fan my brow, I've caught the vapours!
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
I'm like, guys, we do this every year.
I mean, you are aware that Christmas =/= Christian worship of Jesus right? At least not for a metric fuck ton of people.
Christmas isn't entirely a Christian holiday. It's largely based in pagan traditions, and it represents a lot of things that aren't necessarily Christian values. It's basically a hodgepodge of different holidays from different cultures and religions.
There's no inconsistency with a secular atheist celebrating Christmas as a cultural holiday.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Damn straight. I love Christmas. The presents, spending some time with people, the weather (well, not here in Hawaii, but back in Maryland we'd sometimes get snow)...just everything about the holiday is awesome.
Except for the Christian stuff, but we always ignored that in my house growing up, and we ignore it with our kids now. As far as I'm concerned, Christmas is a secular holiday.
For most of south Georgia Christmas = Jesus time.
While you're right that Christmas is not purely a Christian religion, I would think (and probably just my upbringing as a roman catholic) that most people view it that way. There's a lot of Jesus symbology that goes along with the holiday. I did know a Jewish kid in high school that celebrated Christmas and I thought it was a little odd, but hey, whatever.
I do think it's silly that television commercials won't say the word "Christmas" when they show things like Santa and Christmas Trees (see: Home Depot's recent commercials) though.
I'd probably get sick of hearing "Have a bless'd day" and shit too if I lived in the deep south.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
I miss saying merry christmas. I know plenty of people don't celebrate it, and that's fine, but why would someone be upset at a well-wishing? If someone came up to me and told me happy hanukkah, I'd just return the sentiment.
Are you still molesting children?
(Nobody was ever really getting upset if you say 'merry christmas' instead of 'happy holidays.')
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
I'm of the opinion that the people on both sides, whether they get angry at being told "Merry Christmas" for whatever reason, or if they get angry because you tell them a variation, are a bunch of douchebags with chips on their shoulders. Christmas is an identifiable day of the year, as are 'the holidays' and people are hoping you enjoy it. If you're angry at either one, you're a prick, straight up.
We need to take this shit to the streets.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
BillO is losin his touch
Nah, he contracted that out to Glenn Beck this year.
I couldn't hear much else since the sound of my head pounding against the desk drowned them out.
However I love presents - giving and recieving. Its the end of term, so I'm saying to everyone "have a good Christmas", and have just written and addressed up a load of cards wishing people a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
Really, I've never understood the problem with wishing people a good time during the vacation and adhearing to a national holiday. If I lived in a 99.9999%, for example, Jewish country I'd probably not send out a load of Happy Christmas cards, but follow whatever their national holidays were.
It's like with one of my friends who is Greek I follow his custom about birthdays with him, which means there may well be a present on my birthday, but I'm buying all the drinks. And he does the same on his.
Happy is so generic. Happy birthday, happy anniversary, happy Thanksgiving, happy Halloween, happy New Year's, happy 4th of July, etc.
I was watching a cheesy Christmas movie the other day with my girlfriend's mom, and at one point santa loses his powers, and Christmas becomes just "another day"
Any my girflriend's mom stopped it to say, "You know, I knew there was something wrong with that at first, and I figured it out. Santa doesn't have anything to do with christmas. It's all Jesus's holiday. Christmas is all about Jesus. Santa can't take that away from him. Hehe. I don't know, just wanted to say it"
*resume movie*
:x
India has ~3% Christians and Christmas is a state holiday there. It's pretty Jesus-y, with non-Christians joining in with the Christian celebrations. I suppose you don't have to believe someone is God just to celebrate their birthday - I mean, I don't believe Lincoln or MLK or my friends are God either and I still celebrate their birthdays.
Thing is, it's not even remotely close to what was likely his actual birthday.
No one cares.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
If there is a Hell, I'll see you there.
/win
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
As a sidenote, christmas was originally a pagan festival held by vikings in scandinavia to mark the end of summer with a bigass feast, I forget if there's a legend tied in there somewhere but it was basicly an excuse to be merry and eat lots of food. Christians hijacked it because the church wanted to get rid of the worship of the Norse pantheon, I think it was King Harald of Denmark who first adopted christianity, who opted to replace a lot of holidays, basicly anything that vikings celebrated is now associated with some saint or other in Denmark.
Regarding the topic at hand, the "War on Christmas" will never end until everyone comes to their senses and accepts Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior.
At least, this is what Christians in the media want. I really don't care about this whole thing, and think that the outspoken Christians make the more reasonable ones look bad.
BOW DOWN BEFORE THE ONE YOU SERVE
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.